Last Longer (up to 500 seconds) on Way to Orbit - J2X Ultra Potencyfrom Stennis Labs ($350K)

Title inspired by previous spam in sci.space.policy...

Includes unrated YouTube video... :-)

http://www.floridatoday.com/article/...ilestone-NASAL

Impressive test of the J2-X. I'm not a big fan of SLS but I cannot say nay to
technical achievements in rocketry. If the government is going to be spending
money anyway there are worse things that $350K would buy.

Congrats to the team...

Dave

On Nov 10, 6:09*am, David Spain wrote:
Title inspired by previous spam in sci.space.policy...

Includes unrated YouTube video... *:-)

http://www.floridatoday.com/article/...100061/J-2X-te...

Impressive test of the J2-X. I'm not a big fan of SLS but I cannot say nay to
technical achievements in rocketry. If the government is going to be spending
money anyway there are worse things that $350K would buy.

Congrats to the team...

Dave

Don't say it to the ObamaSpace/CommercialSpace/NewSpace/NerdSpace
zealots over on Spacepolitics.com. They despise any success of
anything related to SLS, and if you're any kind of supporter for SLS,
you are either a heretic or a paid shill for SLS. They don't realize
that there's a big difference between NASA could do and what NASA can
do when authorized by Congress. A lot of what they advocate wouldn't
pass Congressional muster.

On 11/11/2011 12:58 PM, Matt Wiser wrote:
On Nov 10, 6:09 am, David wrote:
Title inspired by previous spam in sci.space.policy...

Includes unrated YouTube video... :-)

http://www.floridatoday.com/article/...100061/J-2X-te...

Impressive test of the J2-X. I'm not a big fan of SLS but I cannot say nay to
technical achievements in rocketry. If the government is going to be spending
money anyway there are worse things that $350K would buy.

Congrats to the team...

Dave

Don't say it to the ObamaSpace/CommercialSpace/NewSpace/NerdSpace
zealots over on Spacepolitics.com. They despise any success of
anything related to SLS, and if you're any kind of supporter for SLS,
you are either a heretic or a paid shill for SLS. They don't realize
that there's a big difference between NASA could do and what NASA can
do when authorized by Congress. A lot of what they advocate wouldn't
pass Congressional muster.

You mean like what SpaceX are doing? That's more than passing muster.

In article 0cab2e7e-0fa1-4724-8cd8-95d9f3666de8@
13g2000prp.googlegroups.com, says...

Don't say it to the ObamaSpace/CommercialSpace/NewSpace/NerdSpace
zealots over on Spacepolitics.com.

You know, you aren't helping your case by bad mouthing what is obviously
your opposition. You just come off as a bitter member of the Old Space
establishment who thinks that socialistic, government run space programs
can do no wrong.

Jeff
--
" Ares 1 is a prime example of the fact that NASA just can't get it
up anymore... and when they can, it doesn't stay up long. "
- tinker

In article . com,
says...

On 11/11/2011 12:58 PM, Matt Wiser wrote:

Don't say it to the ObamaSpace/CommercialSpace/NewSpace/NerdSpace
zealots over on Spacepolitics.com. They despise any success of
anything related to SLS, and if you're any kind of supporter for SLS,
you are either a heretic or a paid shill for SLS. They don't realize
that there's a big difference between NASA could do and what NASA can
do when authorized by Congress. A lot of what they advocate wouldn't
pass Congressional muster.

You mean like what SpaceX are doing? That's more than passing muster.

Don't mention SpaceX to Wiser. He'll start spouting off about "Lord
Musk" like he's some kind of TV preacher that has thousands of mindless
followers.

Results are what count in this business. So far, SpaceX has
accomplished quite a bit for a tiny amount of money, at least compared
to what NASA has been blowing on Ares/SLS.

Jeff
--
" Ares 1 is a prime example of the fact that NASA just can't get it
up anymore... and when they can, it doesn't stay up long. "
- tinker

Jeff Findley wrote:
In article 0cab2e7e-0fa1-4724-8cd8-95d9f3666de8@
13g2000prp.googlegroups.com, says...
Don't say it to the ObamaSpace/CommercialSpace/NewSpace/NerdSpace
zealots over on Spacepolitics.com.

You know, you aren't helping your case by bad mouthing what is obviously
your opposition. You just come off as a bitter member of the Old Space
establishment who thinks that socialistic, government run space programs
can do no wrong.

I know how to make both camps happy! Why doesn't NASA just offer the J2-X for
sale? It not like SLS has any place to go once it's built so why not just sell
it off?

;-)

Dave

In article , nospam@
127.0.0.1 says...

I know how to make both camps happy! Why doesn't NASA just offer
the J2-X for sale? It not like SLS has any place to go once it's
built so why not just sell it off?

;-)

Good thing you put a smiley at the end. ;-)

Jeff
--
" Ares 1 is a prime example of the fact that NASA just can't get it
up anymore... and when they can, it doesn't stay up long. "
- tinker

On 12/11/2011 3:21 AM, David Spain wrote:
Jeff Findley wrote:
In article 0cab2e7e-0fa1-4724-8cd8-95d9f3666de8@
13g2000prp.googlegroups.com, says...
Don't say it to the ObamaSpace/CommercialSpace/NewSpace/NerdSpace
zealots over on Spacepolitics.com.

You know, you aren't helping your case by bad mouthing what is
obviously your opposition. You just come off as a bitter member of the
Old Space establishment who thinks that socialistic, government run
space programs can do no wrong.

I know how to make both camps happy! Why doesn't NASA just offer the
J2-X for sale? It not like SLS has any place to go once it's built so
why not just sell it off?

;-)

Dave

Why not offer the whole of SLS, once it's ready for flight, for sale to
commercial interests? Oh, that's right, there won't be any commercial
interest in SLS, other than Boeing and LockMart.

On Nov 11, 5:25*am, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article 0cab2e7e-0fa1-4724-8cd8-95d9f3666de8@
13g2000prp.googlegroups.com, says...



Don't say it to the ObamaSpace/CommercialSpace/NewSpace/NerdSpace
zealots over on Spacepolitics.com.

You know, you aren't helping your case by bad mouthing what is obviously
your opposition. *You just come off as a bitter member of the Old Space
establishment who thinks that socialistic, government run space programs
can do no wrong.

Jeff
--
" Ares 1 is a prime example of the fact that NASA just can't get it
* up anymore... and when they can, it doesn't stay up long. "
* *- tinker

Jeff, it's not that I'm opposed to commercial space activities, far
from it. But I am opposed to the "commercial or else" attitude for all
HSF that some of those zealots are pushing. One of those posters on
that site (last year) was pushing for some pretty extreme stuff that
would never get Congressional approval-which, if you'll remember your
American Government course from college, all government agencies must
obtain if they want to spend taxpayer funds. What did he advocate?
Commercial operating everything in HSF and even robotic space flight.
NASA (or other space agencies for that matter) only renting space on a
lunar base, buying seats on commercially operated vehicles-and this
was for the exploration phase, not exploitation! Said it before and
I'll repeat: NASA does the hard stuff, like return to the moon, fly to
NEOs, visits Earth-Moon and Earth-Sun Lagrange Points, and explores
Mars. The private sector exploits resources and supports NASA and
other space agencies' activites (such as a propellant depot and ISS
crew cargo). That's the dividing line. And unless you can convince
Congress that a depot/EELV based operation is the way forward (good
luck with that right now) it's SLS/Orion by default. Cut and dry, that
is it.

Said it before and I'll repeat: NASA does the hard stuff, like return
to the moon, fly to
NEOs, visits Earth-Moon and Earth-Sun Lagrange Points, and explores
Mars.

so whats nasa last accomplishment?

looks like apollo moon landing was its last accomplishement based on
your criteria