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Old January 11th 10, 06:54 PM posted to relcom.fido.su.astronomy,alt.astronomy,alt.astronomy.solar,rec.sport.pro-wrestling,alt.tv.v
Pros Pere[_2_]
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Default Do you know the difference between the kuiper belt and the oort cloud?


"BradGuth" wrote in message
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On Jan 11, 6:16 am, "Pros Pere" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

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On Jan 10, 2:36 pm, "Pros Pere" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message


...


On Jan 10, 10:26 am, bert wrote:
On Jan 10, 12:41 pm, Double-A wrote:


On Jan 10, 6:16 am, bert wrote:


On Jan 8, 9:38 am, bert wrote:


On Dec 30 2009, 9:31 am, bert
wrote:


On Dec 27, 2:30 pm, Double-A wrote:


On Dec 27, 8:22 am, bert
wrote:


On Dec 16, 8:49 pm, (Mondo Condo
Spiffy


Pumpenstiffy LLC) wrote:
???one is between mARS AND JUPITER AND THE CLOUD IS
2.7
LY
OUT i BERT AM ON MY LOUSY DELL GO FIGURE-


Finally forced to use the real computer, huh? And
already
crossposting all over the place! Your doing great, Bert.
Keep
it up!


Double-A


AA Dell is all I have. It is very dell indeed Oort cloud is
mostly ice
water,inaverage sizes of our largest Hurley comet. Kuipler
belt
is
dusty rockes their average size is Temple 1 Its the Oort
cloud
that
rained down life on Earth.Belt objects Meteors have changed
life
on
Earth about 3 times.The dinosours fond that out the hard
way
Oi
ya
Bert


Oort cloud begs the question. Does it orbit the Sun,or is it
like
an
electron cloud? Can Sun's gravity at 2.7 LY have any effect
on
it?
I
have a theory Oort cloud uses black matter gravity. I base
that
on
good science thinking.Last night NOVA was on "dark
matter"mOST
OF
MY
THOUGHTS are on dark matter,and where it might be hiding.
Looking
for
it under the Earth wont cut it. Dark matter and space energy
I
am
trying to have them relate.Negative energy,and gravity being
a
negative force keeps jumping into my mind.Accelerating
universe
(inflating) jumps in too.My spin is in theory is a help in
this
thinking. Seems stuff is spinning to fast(to much angular
motion,but
some way its stays together. Galaxies are proof of this. They
do
not
have enough matter(mutual gravity) ,but they keep their
structure
the
same for billions,and billions of years.It is so interesting
to
hypothersize on. Sum it up with if "acceleration is 6 times
faster
than c" it might be the answer. " Hope my thinking is getting
better
as I get use to the Dell go figure Bert- Hide quoted
text -


- Show quoted text -


Double A 6Xc is my universe speed of acceleration at this
spacetime.Speed of inflating is getting greater.That relates to
greater distances between all objects both in the micro,and
macro
realms(worlds) It is based on lots of knowlege,and lots of
intense
thinking. Its nice being retired to have much time to do both.
Universe inflating at 6Xc "Its back to the future" Only space
and
time do not have to obey SR Einstein knew that. Light speed is
for
EM
force Bert


Yes, it is EM waves/particles and EM objects, which we all are,
that
have to obey Einstein. Space-time itself is free to do its own
thing.


Double-A- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


AA Man will never go as far as Oort cloud. Like the meteor belt it
has
many miles seperating all its stuff.No chance of seeing it like in
the
movies.Stars in the background are never noticed as being blocked
by
objects in the cloud. It beg the questio . How did Oort know it was
there? How did this guy Oort get a name like Oort? Bert


""The Oort cloud was "discovered" by Dutch astronomer Jan Hendrik
Oort
in 1950""


~ BG


To be more precise, the existence of a cloud that is the origin of
long-period comets was first set forth by Ernst pik in 1932.
Jan Oort revived the idea independently in 1950.
pik thought the cloud was relatively small and revolved around the
Sun.
Oort and following scientists now think of the cloud in two ways, as a
spherical cloud that completely surrounds the Solar system, and there
is
also a disc-shaped component component inside the outer Oort sphere.
The disc-shaped part is thought to be on the ecliptic plane.
The Kuiper belt and scattered disc, the other two known reservoirs of
trans-Neptunian objects, are less than one thousandth the Oort cloud's
distance, which is almost an entire light year away from the Sun.


--
**** the Proz
Fear Impedes Progress!
Fight and Defeat Fear!


Thanks for that bit of informative though perfectly terrestrial
history that any 5th grader could have posted. Why don't you tell us
something/anything we don't know about the Oort cloud?


For example, is there anything out there that's similar or bigger than
Sedna?


~ BG


Yes.

Then perhaps such large and extremely cold items are simply too sooty
black to see, and otherwise too carbon coated for radar to detect.

So why isn't this area or volume of stuff called the Ernst �pik
cloud?

~ BG


The cloud is sometimes called the Öpik (Opik)-Oort cloud for both it's
postulators.

--
**** the Proz
Fear Impedes Progress!
Fight and Defeat Fear!


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Old January 11th 10, 06:56 PM posted to relcom.fido.su.astronomy,alt.astronomy,alt.astronomy.solar,rec.sport.pro-wrestling,alt.tv.v
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Default Do you know the difference between the kuiper belt and the oortcloud?

On Jan 11, 1:54*pm, "Pros Pere" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

...





On Jan 11, 6:16 am, "Pros Pere" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message


....


On Jan 10, 2:36 pm, "Pros Pere" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message


...


On Jan 10, 10:26 am, bert wrote:
On Jan 10, 12:41 pm, Double-A wrote:


On Jan 10, 6:16 am, bert wrote:


On Jan 8, 9:38 am, bert wrote:


On Dec 30 2009, 9:31 am, bert
wrote:


On Dec 27, 2:30 pm, Double-A wrote:


On Dec 27, 8:22 am, bert
wrote:


On Dec 16, 8:49 pm, (Mondo Condo
Spiffy


Pumpenstiffy LLC) wrote:
???one is between mARS AND JUPITER AND THE CLOUD IS
2.7
LY
OUT i BERT AM ON MY LOUSY DELL GO FIGURE-


Finally forced to use the real computer, huh? *And
already
crossposting all over the place! *Your doing great, Bert.
Keep
it up!


Double-A


AA Dell is all I have. It is very dell indeed Oort cloud is
mostly ice
water,inaverage sizes of our largest Hurley comet. Kuipler
belt
is
dusty rockes their average size is Temple 1 * Its the Oort
cloud
that
rained down life on Earth.Belt objects Meteors have changed
life
on
Earth about 3 times.The dinosours fond that out the hard
way
Oi
ya
Bert


Oort cloud begs the question. Does it orbit the Sun,or is it
like
an
electron cloud? Can Sun's gravity at 2.7 LY have any effect
on
it?
I
have a theory Oort cloud uses black matter gravity. I base
that
on
good science thinking.Last night NOVA was on "dark
matter"mOST
OF
MY
THOUGHTS are on dark matter,and where it might be hiding.
Looking
for
it under the Earth wont cut it. Dark matter and space energy
I
am
trying to have them relate.Negative energy,and gravity being
a
negative force keeps jumping into my mind.Accelerating
universe
(inflating) jumps in too.My spin is in theory is a help in
this
thinking. Seems stuff is spinning to fast(to much angular
motion,but
some way its stays together. Galaxies are proof of this. They
do
not
have enough matter(mutual gravity) ,but they keep their
structure
the
same for billions,and billions of years.It is so interesting
to
hypothersize on. Sum it up with if "acceleration is 6 times
faster
than c" it might be the answer. " Hope my thinking is getting
better
as I get use to the Dell *go figure * Bert- Hide quoted
text -


- Show quoted text -


Double A *6Xc is my universe speed of acceleration at this
spacetime.Speed of inflating is getting greater.That relates to
greater distances between all objects both in the micro,and
macro
realms(worlds) It is based on lots of knowlege,and lots of
intense
thinking. Its nice being retired to have much time to do both.
Universe inflating at 6Xc "Its back to the future" *Only space
and
time do not have to obey SR *Einstein knew that. Light speed is
for
EM
force * *Bert


Yes, it is EM waves/particles and EM objects, which we all are,
that
have to obey Einstein. *Space-time itself is free to do its own
thing.


*Double-A- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


AA Man will never go as far as Oort cloud. Like the meteor belt it
has
many miles seperating all its stuff.No chance of seeing it like in
the
movies.Stars in the background are never noticed as being blocked
by
objects in the cloud. It beg the questio . How did Oort know it was
there? How did this guy Oort get a name like Oort? *Bert


""The Oort cloud was "discovered" by Dutch astronomer Jan Hendrik
Oort
in 1950""


~ BG


To be more precise, the existence of a cloud that is the origin of
long-period comets was first set forth by Ernst pik in 1932.
Jan Oort revived the idea independently in 1950.
pik thought the cloud was relatively small and revolved around the
Sun.
Oort and following scientists now think of the cloud in two ways, as a
spherical cloud that completely surrounds the Solar system, and there
is
also a disc-shaped component component inside the outer Oort sphere..
The disc-shaped part is thought to be on the ecliptic plane.
The Kuiper belt and scattered disc, the other two known reservoirs of
trans-Neptunian objects, are less than one thousandth the Oort cloud's
distance, which is almost an entire light year away from the Sun.


--
**** the Proz
Fear Impedes Progress!
Fight and Defeat Fear!


Thanks for that bit of informative though perfectly terrestrial
history that any 5th grader could have posted. *Why don't you tell us
something/anything we don't know about the Oort cloud?


For example, is there anything out there that's similar or bigger than
Sedna?


~ BG


Yes.

Then perhaps such large and extremely cold items are simply too sooty
black to see, and otherwise too carbon coated for radar to detect.


So why isn't this area or volume of stuff called the Ernst �pik
cloud?


~ BG


The cloud is sometimes called the �pik (Opik)-Oort cloud for both it's
postulators.

--
**** the Proz
Fear Impedes Progress!
Fight and Defeat Fear!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


HEH.
one of my better threads.
 




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