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Old February 20th 07, 09:25 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,alt.alien.visitors
Jim Oberg
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Latest news, multiple reports, and a great photograph are at
http://www.spaceweather.com/
(image is at
http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod200...add1_strip.jpg)

compare with space events: http://planet4589.org/space/jsr/latest.html

From http://www.habitablezone.com/nexus/i...sp?svcpt=space
A post from someone in australia on another board... // Tuesday, 20 February
2007
Strange Thin Glowing Cloud, Twice The Diameter Of The Moon

just got out of bed and turned on the radio and they were talking to people
who had witnessed this phenonomon. I live in QLD australia, apparently the
witnesses said their was a flash of light in the heavens about 3am this
morning followed by around very thin almost gaseous glowing cloud that grew
over the space of 10 mim to twice the diameter of the moon. A LOCAL
astronomer said he believes it was some kind of explosion in space, another
reported that he felt this cloud was circleing our planet. I was wondering
if this may have something to do with the warnings from a few other posts
with regards to this energy wave, this was seen west of the southern cross,
people are still talking and describing what they seen, they all say it was
the size of the full moon only fuzzy. i dont think the local radio station
would have anything on there site as yet , however I will try to get a link
to confirm what I am saying is true.

most of the people were a bit scared as they couldnt understand what it was,
one poor woman grabbed her husband and wanted to run. there was apparently
no noise when the flash of light occured.Another guy said he was walking at
3am ? anyway he ran back home to take a photo, so hopefully they might use
his photo if the station descides to keep following up on this story. If
this belinda sanders who is the woman representer at this time slot has
anything to do with it, then im sure they will, as she is constantly
referring back to this story and asking people to keep ringing the ststion
with their eyewitness accounts.

news report:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/items/200...1.htm?southqld





JimO adds some links to possibly-related phenomena:

http://www.debunker.com/texts/giant_ufo.html

http://www.debunker.com/texts/soviet.html

http://www.space.com/sciencefiction/...rt_000808.html


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Old February 20th 07, 10:10 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Herb Schaltegger
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On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:25:09 -0600, Jim Oberg wrote
(in article ):

http://www.spaceweather.com/


Some of the other pics linked on Spaceweather.com (like this one:
http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod200...b07/Palmer.jpg) are much more
indicative of some kind of upper-atmospheric rocket burn or something.

(Removed f/ups to alien newsgroup - Jim, you're a trouble-maker :-p ).

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Old February 20th 07, 10:13 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,alt.alien.visitors
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Jim Oberg wrote:
Latest news, multiple reports, and a great photograph are at
http://www.spaceweather.com/
(image is at
http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod200...add1_strip.jpg)




It looks like a rocket burn; and a solid fuel rocket burn at that.
Or did something explode while firing a motor to shift its orbit?
Reconsat?

Pat

Pat
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Old February 20th 07, 10:17 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,alt.alien.visitors
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Pat Flannery wrote:


Jim Oberg wrote:
Latest news, multiple reports, and a great photograph are at
http://www.spaceweather.com/
(image is at
http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod200...add1_strip.jpg)




It looks like a rocket burn; and a solid fuel rocket burn at that.
Or did something explode while firing a motor to shift its orbit?
Reconsat?


I think they've pretty much determined it was an upper stage burn.

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Old February 20th 07, 11:09 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Herb Schaltegger
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On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:13:58 -0600, Pat Flannery wrote
(in article ):



Jim Oberg wrote:
Latest news, multiple reports, and a great photograph are at
http://www.spaceweather.com/
(image is at
http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod200...add1_strip.jpg)




It looks like a rocket burn; and a solid fuel rocket burn at that.
Or did something explode while firing a motor to shift its orbit?
Reconsat?


Check out some of the other photos linked on SpaceWeather - sure looks like a
rocket burn on those.

Pat




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Sooner or later, God'll cut you down.
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Old February 20th 07, 11:44 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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Herb Schaltegger wrote:
Some of the other pics linked on Spaceweather.com (like this one:
http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod200...b07/Palmer.jpg) are much more
indicative of some kind of upper-atmospheric rocket burn or something.



If that's a rocket burn, that's a mighty powerful rocket. Is that one of
the Mallegenic clouds in the background?
You sure that's it? It looks more like a comet than a rocket burn...the
exhaust should spread out far more than that.

Pat
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Old February 20th 07, 11:46 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,alt.alien.visitors
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kT wrote:

I think they've pretty much determined it was an upper stage burn.


Upper stage of what? THEMIS?

Pat
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Old February 21st 07, 01:33 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,alt.alien.visitors
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On Feb 20, 5:46 pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
kT wrote:

I think they've pretty much determined it was an upper stage burn.


Upper stage of what? THEMIS?


Figure it out :

http://spaceflightnow.com/delta/d323/status.html

0014 GMT (7:14 p.m. EST Sat.)

T+plus 73 minutes, 42 seconds. SPACECRAFT SEPARATION!

He took this picture at 17:30 UT on Feb. 19th:

http://spaceflightnow.com/delta/d323...htimeline.html

T+66:45.1 - Third Stage Ignition - The Thiokol Star 48B solid-fueled
third stage is ignited to deliver the THEMIS satellites into its
intended orbit around Earth.

http://spaceflightnow.com/delta/d323/070212track.html

I can't explain the time anomaly here. Maybe UT means something else.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time



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Old February 21st 07, 01:39 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,alt.alien.visitors
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kT wrote:
On Feb 20, 5:46 pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
kT wrote:

I think they've pretty much determined it was an upper stage burn.

Upper stage of what? THEMIS?


Figure it out :

http://spaceflightnow.com/delta/d323/status.html

0014 GMT (7:14 p.m. EST Sat.)

T+plus 73 minutes, 42 seconds. SPACECRAFT SEPARATION!

He took this picture at 17:30 UT on Feb. 19th:

http://spaceflightnow.com/delta/d323...htimeline.html

T+66:45.1 - Third Stage Ignition - The Thiokol Star 48B solid-fueled
third stage is ignited to deliver the THEMIS satellites into its
intended orbit around Earth.

http://spaceflightnow.com/delta/d323/070212track.html

I can't explain the time anomaly here. Maybe UT means something else.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time


Ok, it's hard to reconcile the time difference.

It must be this then :

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~loomberah/themis.htm

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Old February 21st 07, 01:50 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,alt.alien.visitors
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"Jim Oberg" wrote in message
...


Latest news, multiple reports, and a great photograph are at
http://www.spaceweather.com/
(image is at
http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod200...add1_strip.jpg)

compare with space events: http://planet4589.org/space/jsr/latest.html

From http://www.habitablezone.com/nexus/i...sp?svcpt=space
A post from someone in australia on another board... // Tuesday, 20
February 2007
Strange Thin Glowing Cloud, Twice The Diameter Of The Moon

just got out of bed and turned on the radio and they were talking to
people who had witnessed this phenonomon. I live in QLD australia,
apparently the witnesses said their was a flash of light in the heavens
about 3am this morning followed by around very thin almost gaseous glowing
cloud that grew over the space of 10 mim to twice the diameter of the
moon. A LOCAL astronomer said he believes it was some kind of explosion in
space, another reported that he felt this cloud was circleing our planet.
I was wondering if this may have something to do with the warnings from a
few other posts with regards to this energy wave, this was seen west of
the southern cross, people are still talking and describing what they
seen, they all say it was the size of the full moon only fuzzy. i dont
think the local radio station would have anything on there site as yet ,
however I will try to get a link to confirm what I am saying is true.

most of the people were a bit scared as they couldnt understand what it
was, one poor woman grabbed her husband and wanted to run. there was
apparently no noise when the flash of light occured.Another guy said he
was walking at 3am ? anyway he ran back home to take a photo, so hopefully
they might use his photo if the station descides to keep following up on
this story. If this belinda sanders who is the woman representer at this
time slot has anything to do with it, then im sure they will, as she is
constantly referring back to this story and asking people to keep ringing
the ststion with their eyewitness accounts.

news report:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/items/200...1.htm?southqld





JimO adds some links to possibly-related phenomena:

http://www.debunker.com/texts/giant_ufo.html

http://www.debunker.com/texts/soviet.html

http://www.space.com/sciencefiction/...rt_000808.html



( c ) The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a
weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from
Venus.

All platitudes aside: yep, after reading what you posted as well as the
information/discusion found in the links you have provided, Mr. Oberg, and
reading what Pat Flannery and others (usenet, habitablezone) have posted I
do concur that it looks most like a rocket burn, but the questions become
what, from whom and what launch site. I do like people's suggestion that it
may be secondary effects from the breakup of space junk, but the center
'light' does still look like an ignited source so the question becomes what
would have re-ignited solid or liquid fuel?


 




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