Mars Spectacular

On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:39:21 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc wrote:

So being a destructive cultist even depresses one's sperm count.

John Savard

Sperm count?!

Whew, I thought I might lose my plica fimbriata to my chronic
destructive cultitis. Good to know I'll only lose some sperm.


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On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 7:04:39 PM UTC-6, Bill wrote:

Sperm count?!

Whew, I thought I might lose my plica fimbriata to my chronic
destructive cultitis. Good to know I'll only lose some sperm.

Well, I can't give you that kind of guarantee; he said it makes one less than a man in _every_ way. I just noted sperm count as one of the absurd consequences of that, since presumably he was thinking in terms of things like courage and other virtues.

John Savard

On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 11:04:30 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:

You are a bunch of destructive cultists who set the Sun in a circumpolar arc and that makes you something a lot less then men in every way possible it is to be men...

The problem with your so-called thinking is, of course, that due to the rotation of the Earth, EVERYTHING in the northern hemisphere's sky circles the northern pole once every 23 56 04 or so, allowing corrections for proper motion... including the Sun.

There is really nothing that anyone can do about this, it is what it is... and any idiot with 2 sticks and a watch can prove it themselves.

I do understand, however, that nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool...

\Paul A

On Thursday, August 14, 2014 2:55:08 AM UTC+1, palsing wrote:
On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 11:04:30 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:



You are a bunch of destructive cultists who set the Sun in a circumpolar arc and that makes you something a lot less then men in every way possible it is to be men...



The problem with your so-called thinking is, of course, that due to the rotation of the Earth, EVERYTHING in the northern hemisphere's sky circles the northern pole once every 23 56 04 or so, allowing corrections for proper motion... including the Sun.




Simply beautiful ! -

http://www.hoydalsvik.net/astrofoto/...t_20101201.jpg

Circumpolar motion of the distant stars from horizon to horizon creates a separate arc where the stars are not furthest East or West as they emerge from the horizon whereas the Sun moves directly West as it appears each dawn from the East due to a round and rotating Earth.

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1207...e-Tafreshi.jpg


At some time or other all people will stop to look out at the Sun as it emerges from the local horizon at dawn and as the Earth turns watches as the Sun moves in a graceful arc to sunset.

http://scienceblogs.com/startswithab...ice_pivato.jpg

You are the only people ever to try and vandalize appreciation of this graceful arc and there is nothing more complicated in all this than the observed apparent daily motion of the Sun.

What your celestial sphere cult does is not fundamentalism but something much worse as it does lead to those crude and cruel tendencies which plague this era.













There is really nothing that anyone can do about this, it is what it is.... and any idiot with 2 sticks and a watch can prove it themselves.



I do understand, however, that nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool...



\Paul A

On Thursday, August 14, 2014 12:19:16 AM UTC-6, oriel36 wrote:

Circumpolar motion of the distant stars from horizon to horizon creates a
separate arc where the stars are not furthest East or West as they emerge from
the horizon whereas the Sun moves directly West as it appears each dawn from
the East due to a round and rotating Earth.

The apparent circumpolar motion of the stars is also a consequence of a round and rotating Earth; the slight discrepancy between their apparent motion and that of the Sun is due to the Earth's orbit around the Sun.

John Savard

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On Thursday, August 14, 2014 12:19:16 AM UTC-6, oriel36 wrote:

Circumpolar motion of the distant stars from horizon to horizon creates a
separate arc where the stars are not furthest East or West as they emerge
from
the horizon whereas the Sun moves directly West as it appears each dawn
from
the East due to a round and rotating Earth.

The apparent circumpolar motion of the stars is also a consequence of a
round and rotating Earth; the slight discrepancy between their apparent
motion and that of the Sun is due to the Earth's orbit around the Sun.

John Savard
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Explain your 8" aperture rule of thumb

On Thursday, August 14, 2014 2:55:08 AM UTC+1, palsing wrote:


The problem with your so-called thinking is, of course, that due to the rotation of the Earth, EVERYTHING in the northern hemisphere's sky circles the northern pole once every 23 56 04 or so, allowing corrections for proper motion... including the Sun.



http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0712...anGorp1200.jpg

Putting the Sun in circumpolar motion knowing that hemispherical variations in arc puts the Sun in opposite paths is totally obscene but then again that seems to be an asset in empirical/celestial sphere cult circles.

All observations of the arc of the Sun are made towards the Equator whether looking South in the Northern hemisphere or looking North in the Southern where the arc of the Sun turns in the opposite direction to circumpolar arcs notwithstanding the Sun is seen to move West from the horizon and creating that familiar and beautiful arc as it does so.

http://images.fineartamerica.com/ima...parviainen.jpg

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There is a wonderful saying by a poet that 'Eternity is in love with the productions of time' so that no person looking out at sunrise or sunset could accept an unnatural daily arc of the Sun when their soul or spirit is elevated by the normal daily arc as the Sun enters into view and leaves it at sunset,it is not something unique to people who call themselves astronomers but to all those who take notice of their surroundings.

It is also known that the love which many know as God faces the individual as though in a mirror and as we look out with a sense of love we experience it in return through these observations while those who mock creation only mock themselves and their loveless existence.

oriel36 wrote:
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 2:55:08 AM UTC+1, palsing wrote:
On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 11:04:30 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:



You are a bunch of destructive cultists who set the Sun in a
circumpolar arc and that makes you something a lot less then men in
every way possible it is to be men...



The problem with your so-called thinking is, of course, that due to the
rotation of the Earth, EVERYTHING in the northern hemisphere's sky
circles the northern pole once every 23 56 04 or so, allowing
corrections for proper motion... including the Sun.




Simply beautiful ! -

http://www.hoydalsvik.net/astrofoto/...t_20101201.jpg

Circumpolar motion of the distant stars from horizon to horizon creates a
separate arc where the stars are not furthest East or West as they emerge
from the horizon whereas the Sun moves directly West as it appears each
dawn from the East due to a round and rotating Earth.

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1207...e-Tafreshi.jpg


At some time or other all people will stop to look out at the Sun as it
emerges from the local horizon at dawn and as the Earth turns watches as
the Sun moves in a graceful arc to sunset.

http://scienceblogs.com/startswithab...ice_pivato.jpg

You are the only people ever to try and vandalize appreciation of this
graceful arc and there is nothing more complicated in all this than the
observed apparent daily motion of the Sun.

What your celestial sphere cult does is not fundamentalism but something
much worse as it does lead to those crude and cruel tendencies which plague this era.













There is really nothing that anyone can do about this, it is what it
is... and any idiot with 2 sticks and a watch can prove it themselves.



I do understand, however, that nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool...



\Paul A

Today in Hammerfest the Sun rose in the northeast and moved south and west
and eventually will set in the northwest.
So you are just wrong.

On Thursday, August 14, 2014 2:28:57 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
oriel36 wrote:

On Thursday, August 14, 2014 2:55:08 AM UTC+1, palsing wrote:

On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 11:04:30 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:







You are a bunch of destructive cultists who set the Sun in a

circumpolar arc and that makes you something a lot less then men in

every way possible it is to be men...







The problem with your so-called thinking is, of course, that due to the

rotation of the Earth, EVERYTHING in the northern hemisphere's sky

circles the northern pole once every 23 56 04 or so, allowing

corrections for proper motion... including the Sun.









Simply beautiful ! -



http://www.hoydalsvik.net/astrofoto/...t_20101201.jpg



Circumpolar motion of the distant stars from horizon to horizon creates a

separate arc where the stars are not furthest East or West as they emerge

from the horizon whereas the Sun moves directly West as it appears each

dawn from the East due to a round and rotating Earth.



http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1207...e-Tafreshi.jpg





At some time or other all people will stop to look out at the Sun as it

emerges from the local horizon at dawn and as the Earth turns watches as

the Sun moves in a graceful arc to sunset.



http://scienceblogs.com/startswithab...ice_pivato.jpg



You are the only people ever to try and vandalize appreciation of this

graceful arc and there is nothing more complicated in all this than the

observed apparent daily motion of the Sun.



What your celestial sphere cult does is not fundamentalism but something

much worse as it does lead to those crude and cruel tendencies which plague this era.



























There is really nothing that anyone can do about this, it is what it

is... and any idiot with 2 sticks and a watch can prove it themselves.







I do understand, however, that nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool...







\Paul A



Today in Hammerfest the Sun rose in the northeast and moved south and west

and eventually will set in the northwest.

So you are just wrong.

http://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/norway/hammerfest

The arc of the Sun is furthest East on the local horizon as it enters view,reaches its highest altitude and the moves West where it disappears elegantly beyond the horizon .

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap130303.html

The illness of a cult mind is driving you to put the Sun in a circumpolar path that is never observed so you it is not so much that you are defying the normal daily arc of the Sun from horizon to horizon,there is no spirit in you to enjoy the actual path of the Sun daily as it moves directly West after it appears on the horizon -

http://images.fineartamerica.com/ima...parviainen.jpg

The soul of astronomy is in those images which most people take for granted as they look towards the Earth's Equator in whatever hemisphere the arc of the Sun is viewed .

This is the apparent arc of the Sun that you are challenging so a lack of spirit is making you extremely ill in order to support an unnatural daily arc of the Sun that is never observed while at the same time ignoring the apparent motion of the Sun from horizon to horizon at the North/South poles due solely to the surface rotation of the Earth as a function of its orbital motion where the Sun enters view on the horizon in March at the North pole and exits view from the horizon after the September Solstice.

I have never encountered so many people who genuinely hated astronomy including the folksy people who come here pretending to admire the motion of celestial objects including the apparent motion of the Sun. How else to account for a hideous belief that the Sun follows a circumpolar path from horizon to horizon -

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap130303.html

Anyone who has ever loved a sunrise or sunset knows better -

http://images.fineartamerica.com/ima...parviainen.jpg






http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap130303.html

oriel36 wrote:
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 2:28:57 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
oriel36 wrote:

On Thursday, August 14, 2014 2:55:08 AM UTC+1, palsing wrote:

On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 11:04:30 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:







You are a bunch of destructive cultists who set the Sun in a

circumpolar arc and that makes you something a lot less then men in

every way possible it is to be men...







The problem with your so-called thinking is, of course, that due to the

rotation of the Earth, EVERYTHING in the northern hemisphere's sky

circles the northern pole once every 23 56 04 or so, allowing

corrections for proper motion... including the Sun.









Simply beautiful ! -



http://www.hoydalsvik.net/astrofoto/...t_20101201.jpg



Circumpolar motion of the distant stars from horizon to horizon creates a

separate arc where the stars are not furthest East or West as they emerge

from the horizon whereas the Sun moves directly West as it appears each

dawn from the East due to a round and rotating Earth.



http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1207...e-Tafreshi.jpg





At some time or other all people will stop to look out at the Sun as it

emerges from the local horizon at dawn and as the Earth turns watches as

the Sun moves in a graceful arc to sunset.



http://scienceblogs.com/startswithab...ice_pivato.jpg



You are the only people ever to try and vandalize appreciation of this

graceful arc and there is nothing more complicated in all this than the

observed apparent daily motion of the Sun.



What your celestial sphere cult does is not fundamentalism but something

much worse as it does lead to those crude and cruel tendencies which plague this era.



























There is really nothing that anyone can do about this, it is what it

is... and any idiot with 2 sticks and a watch can prove it themselves.







I do understand, however, that nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool...







\Paul A



Today in Hammerfest the Sun rose in the northeast and moved south and west

and eventually will set in the northwest.

So you are just wrong.

http://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/norway/hammerfest

The arc of the Sun is furthest East on the local horizon as it enters
view,reaches its highest altitude and the moves West where it disappears
elegantly beyond the horizon .

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap130303.html

The illness of a cult mind is driving you to put the Sun in a circumpolar
path that is never observed so you it is not so much that you are defying
the normal daily arc of the Sun from horizon to horizon,there is no
spirit in you to enjoy the actual path of the Sun daily as it moves
directly West after it appears on the horizon -

http://images.fineartamerica.com/ima...parviainen.jpg

The soul of astronomy is in those images which most people take for
granted as they look towards the Earth's Equator in whatever hemisphere
the arc of the Sun is viewed .

This is the apparent arc of the Sun that you are challenging so a lack of
spirit is making you extremely ill in order to support an unnatural daily
arc of the Sun that is never observed while at the same time ignoring the
apparent motion of the Sun from horizon to horizon at the North/South
poles due solely to the surface rotation of the Earth as a function of
its orbital motion where the Sun enters view on the horizon in March at
the North pole and exits view from the horizon after the September Solstice.

I have never encountered so many people who genuinely hated astronomy
including the folksy people who come here pretending to admire the motion
of celestial objects including the apparent motion of the Sun. How else
to account for a hideous belief that the Sun follows a circumpolar path
from horizon to horizon -

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap130303.html

Anyone who has ever loved a sunrise or sunset knows better -

http://images.fineartamerica.com/ima...parviainen.jpg






http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap130303.html

The diagram you linked to has a chart which covers 360 degrees with south
in the centre and north at the left and right hand sides. At 05:50 the sun
is due east having moved westwards from its northeasterly sunrise.

So I say again you are just wrong.
Learn to interpret the diagrams. East is between northeast and south so the
sun has to reach east after sunrise and before noon.