Chapt34 galaxy evidence #383 Atom Totality 4th ed

Chapter 34 galaxy evolution evidence

Subject: Irregular galaxy, faint blue galaxy follow Solar System
pattern;


--- quoting from Wikipedia on Irregular galaxy and Faint blue galaxy
---
Some galaxies do not have a regular shape, like a spiral or an
elliptical galaxy. Those galaxies are known as irregular galaxies.
Their shape is uncommon. They do not fall into any of the regular
classes of the Hubble sequence, and they are often chaotic in
appearance, with neither a nuclear bulge nor any trace of spiral arm
structure. Collectively they are thought to make up about a quarter of
all galaxies. Most irregular galaxies were once spiral or elliptical
galaxies but were deformed by gravitational action. Irregular galaxies
also contain abundant amounts of gas and dust.
There are two major Hubble types of irregular galaxies:
An Irr-I galaxy (Irr I) is an irregular galaxy that features some
structure but not enough to place it cleanly into the Hubble sequence.
de Vaucouleurs subtypes this into galaxies that have some spiral
structure Sm, and those that do not Im.
An Irr-II galaxy (Irr II) is an irregular galaxy that does not appear
to feature any structure that can place it into the Hubble sequence.
A third classification of irregular galaxies are the dwarf irregulars,
labelled as dI or dIrrs. This type of galaxy is now thought to be
important to understand the overall evolution of galaxies, as they
tend to have a low level of metallicity and relatively high levels of
gas, and are thought to be similar to the earliest galaxies that
populated the Universe. They may represent a local (and therefore more
recent) version of the faint blue galaxies known to exist in deep
field galaxy surveys.

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A faint blue galaxy is a distant, irregularly shaped galaxy in which
star formation occurs at a high rate. From the late 1970s it became
apparent in deep galaxy surveys that a population of these blue
galaxies existed at vast distances.
Later investigation confirmed that going back in cosmological time
suddenly a population of small, blue galaxies appears. The exact
redshift at which this happens is still uncertain.
These systems are small and far away. Little is known about their
structure. However, they form stars very efficiently, hence the blue
colours. One possibility is that these galaxies contain Population III
stars.
--- end quoting Wikipedia ---

Now if the Universe follows similar patterns from the atom to the
Solar System to Galaxies to the whole of the Cosmos, would mean
that the evolution of the Solar System should be in evidence in
galaxies.

So that gives a birth of a Solar system, it should be rather round and
spherical shaped and not a flat disc of a ecliptic plane and this is
what
we see in galaxies as well as our Solar System. Our Solar System when
newly borne was irregular shaped just the same as those Faint
blue galaxy. But once a solar system had been around for more than
billions of years, its mechanics of motion of Positron-Space-Gravity
would have flattened the system into a disc shape of a plane of
ecliptic.

So our own Milky Way must be billions of years old such as 10 billion
years of age whereas the roundish globular galaxies of Faint blue
must be perhaps closer to their birth of 1 or less billion years.

And this similarity pattern also follows from Solar System to galaxy
of
the Mercury precession in that galactic centers have a spew forth of
emission pressure on nearby stars that forces them to have a
noticeably larger precession. And also the tilt of Pluto from the
plane
of ecliptic should be seen in galaxies in that the furthest stars from
the
galactic center should have a larger tilt from the galactic plane than
usual. I think this is the case of observed data.


Subject: tentative outline of birth to death of an atom, solar-system,
galaxy,
cosmos;


In my last post I described how the Faint-blue-galaxy
and Irregular galaxies and the common elliptical galaxies follow the
same pattern as what the solar-system follows or had followed.

So here I am ready to give a faint outline of from
birth to death of an atom, of a solar-system, of a
galaxy, and of a cosmos. Sort of reminds me
of a recent PBS program on fractals of self-similar
and where the smallest is the same as the largest
and all built from one shape. So that the Atom Totality theory, in
effect, endorses fractals. The reason the Cosmos can have fractals is
because
the Cosmos is nothing but atoms creating an Atom
Totality.

Anyway, the birth to death of a solar-system starts
with a quantization of distance as a 2-dimensional
spectral pattern or interference double-slit pattern
where the majority of dots are in the center and where you have a
interference pattern. Sort of like this crude ascii art drawing of
mine:

i i i I I ][ I I i i i

So our Solar System started with that 2D spectral pattern and in 3D it
would be a sphere of those spectral lines. Those lines are where Dirac
new-radioactivities delivered particles with mass and in between those
lines, no mass was delivered. And those lines increase in mass since
new-radioactivities is a multiplicative-creation as espoused by Dirac
in his book Directions in Physics
1978.

So early in birth is the 2D spectral or interference pattern and in 3D
it becomes a spherical ball. We see this best in the asteroids or the
Kuiper and clouds beyond Kuiper. But for the inner and outer
planets we only see the 2D now for the 3D was
taken away by the billions of years of orbiting around the Sun.

We see the 3D in the Faint blue galaxies and the
Irregular galaxies for they are a spherical ball shaped
galaxies, but when they have been through 5 to 10 billion years of
orbiting, they flatten out into elliptic
planar shaped galaxies.

Now we see this ball shape in birth evolving into
planar (plane of ecliptic) shape even in atom structure. The hydrogen
and helium atom can be considered the birth of a atom and as this atom
grows into becoming a heavier element such as
going from hydrogen to helium to that of iron and all the way up to
uranium, that as it grows older it develops s,p,d,f orbitals all of
which are no longer
spherical as hydrogen and helium but rather tending
towards more and more planar disc shaped, much
like that resembling the Sun and inner planets and
outer planets orbiting the plane of ecliptic.

In the decade of the 1990s and 2000s it was announced that the shape
of the cosmos was a
dodecahedron by the French Luminet team of
researchers. Well that is a signal of the flattening
of the Cosmos rather than if it were reported that the
Cosmos was a ball sphere shape.

Now I may have to revise my earlier assessment of
the age of Earth and the Sun and Jupiter and our
Milky Way Galaxy. Since our Solar System is on the
fringes or outskirts of the Milky Way indicates we are
younger than most every other star in the Milky Way.
But since the Milky Way is a elliptical galaxy indicates it is rather
old in age.

The Uranium Atom Totality layer is on average 20
billion years old and the recent new layer of the
Plutonium Atom Totality is a mere 6 to 7 billion
years old. So is our Milky Way borne in the Uranium
Atom Totality that it is more than say 12 billion years
old in parts? Are there some stars in the Milky Way
that for sure date back to 12 billion years and further? Or can a
galaxy borne 6 billion years ago from a spherical ball become a
elliptic such as the
Milky Way in only 6 billion years elapsed time?

I would tend to think that only the Faint Blue galaxies
are 6 billion years old and that they need another
6 billion years of orbital mechanics to have the Positron Space
Gravity level out their galaxy into a
planar elliptical form.



Subject: Irregular galaxy, faint blue galaxy follow Solar System
pattern;

Cwatters wrote:
"Archimedes Plutonium" wrote in message
...
Now if the Universe follows similar patterns from the atom to the
Solar System to Galaxies to the whole of the Cosmos...

but it doesn't does it.

Well it does. When we study the atom of hydrogen it is a ball like
structure
with dots as the electron cloud and where the dense nucleus is tiny
and
massive. The Solar System with its Oort Cloud is what? I am guessing
50,000 Au? Wikipedia has a nice picture of the Oort Cloud which is the
last gravitationally bonded structure of the solar system. And of
course
the nucleus of the Oort Cloud would be the Sun with its planets.

Now as for galaxies, there are round ball like galaxies with a nuclear
interior
where most of the mass lies. But as for all galaxies, well, they all
seem to
have a nuclear interior where most of the mass lies.

As for the Cosmos itself, well, we have the Great Wall and now the
Sloan
Great Wall and quasars beyond the Sloan Great Wall. This leads us to
suspect that the Walls + quasars are either the nucleus of the Cosmos
or in the direction of the nucleus of the Cosmos.

So, I would say yes, that the available evidence to date is pointing
in the
direction that from atoms to that of solar systems to galaxies to the
Cosmos
itself have the same underlying structure and the same pattern or
mechanisms
that built those structures.

Subject: interesting new question and idea about the nuclei of atoms



Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
Cwatters wrote:
"Archimedes Plutonium" wrote in message
...
Now if the Universe follows similar patterns from the atom to the
Solar System to Galaxies to the whole of the Cosmos...

but it doesn't does it.


Many, perhaps even most new ideas begin as by the example of the
above.
Where I was answering a question, and where in that answer is borne a
new
question.

So if the atom is a fractal of the Solar System and that a fractal of
the galaxy
and that a fractal of the Cosmos. Leads to a very exciting question.

Is the nucleus of a typical atom arranged like what the Solar System
is arranged
of its Sun, inner planets and gas giants and plane of ecliptic?

So far, physics has only given an image of the nuclei as some sort of
tiny ball
where some neutrons orbit on the edge of the ball.

But if the idea that the atom mirror images the Solar System, would
then extend
the picture of what a nuclei should look like. Of course not a
hydrogen atom
or helium but a multi neutron and proton nuclei. So can we expect the
nucleus
of a typical heavy element to have most of its neutrons and protons at
a dead center
corresponding to the Sun. Then can we expect some protons and neutrons
to be
orbiting this ball of dead center nuclei, much like the planets in the
solar system?

If we can determine through Physics experiments that a heavy element
atom has
what appears to be a **plane of ecliptic** of that nuclei, then I
would say yes, that
the atom structure of the nuclei is similar in shape and form to the
Solar System
structure.

So, do we have any Physics Experiments that hints or suggests that
their exists
a **Nuclei Plane of Ecliptic** It would most certainly advance nuclear
physics in
leaps and bounds, because once we know the correct geometry of a
structure,
we easily make alot of progress. So is anyone aware of physics
experiments where
a plane of ecliptic type structure could be found?


Subject: geometry of atomic nuclei as solar-system shaped

I reviewed the geometry of
atomic nuclei and whether any experiments turned up a disc shape
similar to the
solar system of planets. I saw alot of stuff, everything from
Widmanstatten structure
to liquid-drop model to shell model. Even saw a recently filed
research report that
sulfur?? nuclei turn spherical and then football shaped.

If nuclei are shaped like the Sun's plane of ecliptic, would then be
experimentally
measurable by the scattering pattern. Imagine the solar system and if
a large
number of rockets were launched at various points in the Oort cloud
with the aim
of hitting something in the center. Well if you aim at the center you
may hit the
Sun. But if you were in the Oort Cloud there is a special circle as a
shooting platform
that coincides with the plane of ecliptic. So if you shoot your
rockets from the Oort
Cloud from the plane of ecliptic would be the maximum vantage point of
hitting
something, whether a planet or the Sun.

So if the shape of atomic nuclei have a plane of ecliptic shape, then
that should
be experimentally observable as a special firing platform to fire say
X-rays or
some other particle and reveal whether atomic nuclei are shaped like
our
solar system.

Now in the Shell Model, rather than the Liquid Drop Model, we actually
have
protons and neutrons in shells just like the planets, however, in the
Shell Model
we do not have them in a plane of ecliptic.

Now I wonder if this plane of ecliptic has already been discovered for
atomic
nuclei but not realized. Because when we do crystallography that we
end up
with a pattern of the atoms that imply the nuclei are plane-of-
ecliptic.

Archimedes Plutonium
http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies