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"LaDonna Wyss" wrote in message om... Jim Davis wrote in message .1.4... LaDonna Wyss wrote: Scott had that report examined by a top forensic pathologist; you should ask for HIS credentials. Scott never told us who his top forensic pathologist was. Can you? Jim Davis He told me, but I forgot his name. Check your investigational notes. You *did* write it down, didn't you? If you have performed the investigation you claimed, then just pull the pathology report and get the name. |
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LaDonna Wyss wrote...
OK. Let's start with the last one first. I am FAR too busy with this to "google the group" for the past year or so. If you have a specific post from Jay Windley you would like me to address, feel free to direct me to it. http://groups.google.com.au/groups?h...com%26rnum%3D2 This short series of posts examines the switch&plate issue and how the photographic evidence gells (or not) with the presented theories. Maybe you could start here? - Peter |
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"Peter Smith" wrote ...
LaDonna Wyss wrote... If you have a specific post from Jay Windley you would like me to address, feel free to direct me to it. http://groups.google.com.au/groups?h...com%26rnum%3D2 But if you go there, you might find http://groups.google.com/groups?thre...xmi ssion.com the more convenient link. |
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Pat Flannery wrote in message ...
LaDonna Wyss wrote: I don't know who you are, or who you think you are talking to, but this is NOT Mary Zornio. Do you not read the message line? I've not met Mary Zornio, but I know she has written some excellent articles on Gus. Anyway, is this the best you can do? I see The Art of Argument was completely lost on you. Despite its female sex, Godzilla realized that Mothra could be a thoroughly annoying creature, just as the female Rodan was; so when the giant silk moth shot poisonous venom out of its wings at him, he did not hesitate to generate a worthy flame for it to fly into.... :-) Pat lmao! |
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Dale wrote in message . ..
On 3 Jun 2004 22:54:19 -0700, (LaDonna Wyss) wrote: Next, I am not a "conspiratorial loon." I approached this with extreme skepticism, as did many members of my team. The fact is the evidence proves Scott's assertions to be true, and if you spent any time reviewing that evidence rather than lodging superficial attacks you might come to realize you are seriously mistaken. Finally, Scott didn't prove ANYTHING to me. I repeat: SCOTT did NOT prove ANYTHING to me. I spent 18 months compiling evidence from all over the country and determined ON MY OWN Apollo One was sabotaged. The evidence speaks for itself. Why are you doing this? You've spent 18 months on it and assembled a "team"? Are you writing a book or something? Do you have some personal connection to the crew or their families? If not, it comes across as a tad wacko, especially since you don't seem willing to answer even simple questions. I think we've seen this show before, LaDonna. It wasn't all that interesting the first time. Dale What "simple questions?" My motive is simple: I care. If that is "a tad wacko", then obviously you have never stopped and really thought about those people who have given their lives so you can have the right to come to this message board and say whatever you like. I have 12 years invested in Gus Grissom's life; I had 10 invested at the time I read NASA's b.s. report, and I got a little angry realizing NASA was lying through its teeth. There ARE some people in this world who love the TRUTH. I am one of them. Plain and simple. |
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"Scott Hedrick" wrote in message . ..
"LaDonna Wyss" wrote in message om... "Scott Hedrick" wrote in message .. . "LaDonna Wyss" wrote in message om... 3. My own, independent investigation has not only confirmed Scott's allegations How about all that folderol about a switch? Did your investigation prove beyond a doubt that the piece of metal he yaks about on some switch was in fact the cause of the fire? "Folderol?" My, aren't we prim! Good thing I studied English in college. :-) The legal standard is beyond a REASONABLE doubt, and yes it has. The RCS A/C roll switch was hard shorted to ground, and that short caused multiple problems all along Main B from the moment Apollo One was powered up at 9:45 that morning. I've tracked the electrical problems as well as the other so-called "anomalies" that occurred that day, and they all tie directly to that short. None of which answers the question. Furthermore, I didn't use "reasonable" because this isn't a legal forum, it's a scientific one, and the standard of proof is more than "reasonable" doubt. And, as for the piece of metal, you do understand the concept of a hard short (aka "dead" short)? I've worked with electricity for a long time. I'm well aware of what a hard short is, just as I am aware that you did not answer my question. Specifically, let's see the verifiable evidence in which "scott"'s claims about the roll switch, that it was *the* cause of the fire, is true. Strange that it managed to survive the fire, since if it were the cause it would have been in the area most badly damaged, but it looks in fairly good shape. "scott"'s analysis won't work here, if you are doing a truly *independent* investigation. What is the name and verifiable contact information for the expert who examined the switch? Ummm, since you have "worked with electricity for a long time" then you must realize that on a circuit containing such a short, a fire can start at the point of the short, or at any place along that circuit, or in multiple places along the circuit. You are assuming the fire started behind Panel 8 behind or around the A/C roll switch. It did not. (As a side note, have you been to Scott's website and seen the picture of that microswitch? It is clear something rather powerful blew through that circuit.) The fire actually started in the +yaw thruster of the Service Module, and the fire started 22 minutes before NASA claims it did. Again, if you ever find your way to the National Archives, you will find multiple documents discussing fire damage to Sector One of the Service Module, damage technicians were at a loss to explain. Further, if you get a copy of the voice transcript, you will find that +yaw thruster misfired the first time Gus pulsed it; he was forced to fire it a second time. Three minutes later, Roger pointed something out to Gus. The transcript is chopped up at this point, but given the crew's next actions it is rather plain Roger saw smoke: Immediately after Roger points something out to Gus, Roger and Gus both open their faceplates and keep them open for approximately a minute. At 6:24 another crew member opens his faceplate again (ECU data indicates this; no one was speaking at the time so we do not know whose visor it was.) At 6:30:85 Gus opened his faceplate a third time, this time keeping it open THROUGH THE FIRST CALL OF FIRE, which came from Gus, not Roger (this according to Bell Lab's voice tape analysis.) Why is everyone playing musical visors? Think about it for a second and the answer is clear: They are trying to smell what Roger saw: Smoke. Unfortunately, due to the outflow of oxygen from the suits they were unable to do so. Finally, as I said, go look at the picture of the microswitch. It speaks for itself. |
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"Charleston" wrote in message news:cgVvc.16062$lL1.6844@fed1read03...
"OM" OneMaggot@hourly_by mouth until_Mary_of_the_hole in the brain gang_tosses you into the NASA_research_facility.org wrote: ...And no, there ain't no wimmen's wards in Killfile Hell. They all get equal sodomy down there with the Maxsons! Some things never change. Saint JerOMe strikes again. LOL! Incidently, some of you folks have WAY too much time on your hands (inventing interesting Internet addresses.) :-) |
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