A Space & astronomy forum. SpaceBanter.com

Go Back   Home » SpaceBanter.com forum » Others » UK Astronomy
Site Map Home Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

NASA's images of Mars are the wrong color



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old February 3rd 04, 09:03 PM
Alert
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default NASA's images of Mars are the wrong color

NASA's images of Mars are the wrong color

NASA has had to admit that the colours are wrong in most of the images
of Mars taken by their latest mission.

Observers have been complaining that the latest pictures of the Red
Planet are too red. Everything in the pictures appears red - rocks,
dust, sky - even the green, blue, yellow and red paint on the probes
themselves, which should have been used to calibrate the colour in
these pictures!

The surface of Mars looks red, as most people would expect, in the
red-tinted photographs. But what is the true colour of the landscape
in these pictures? Unfortunately, if America did find life on Mars,
especially simple life like blue or green algae or plants living on
the surface, the false colouring of these pictures would conceal it.

The US landed two probes, Spirit and Opportunity, on 4 and 25 January
2004. A British probe, Beagle 2, landed on Mars on 25 December 2003,
but we never saw any pictures from this mission, and nobody knows what
happened to it after the last signals it broadcast moments before
touch-down.

http://www.theinsider.org


SOURCE


New Scientist, "Seeing red on Mars", p 19, 31 January 2004.
[ http://archive.newscientist.com/secu...mg18124323.000
]
NASA has safely landed its rovers. But can it handle the
conspiracy theorists? David L. Chandler investigates
THE rolling landscape of red soil is strewn with dark rocks.
NASA's brace of rovers have certainly confirmed the picture we have
come to expect of Mars. But take a closer look at the images they have
been sending back. Is the Red Planet really, well, quite this red?
Welcome to the latest space conspiracy theory. The soft version of
the story claims that in a bid to make an ordinary-looking, brownish
Mars live up to its billing, NASA has been naughtily tweaking the
colours in Spirit's digital images. The hard version has the evil NASA
doctoring the colours so the rest of us won't notice evidence of life,
such as patches of green.
Leaving aside the question of why NASA would want to hide such a
momentous find, has it been taking liberties with the colours? Talk to
NASA's image experts and you discover that getting the colours right
is a surprisingly difficult - and, despite the technical wizardry
involved, subjective - job. In fact, truly accurate results, the
specialists agree, are not going to happen until people have been to
Mars and seen its colours first-hand.
That said, there are problems related to these Mars rover images,
some of them preventable. And in failing to make it clear just what we
are seeing, NASA has naively allowed conspiracy theorists a field day.
Although there are standard red, green and blue (RGB) filters on
board that can produce a fair approximation of "true" colour, these
have hardly been used. Instead, most of the colour images displayed so
far have been taken through green, blue and infrared filters (IR-GB).
When the infrared gets rendered as red, the results are pretty close
to true, but with some really glaring exceptions. Blue and green, in
particular, just don't come out right. As far as we know, those
colours don't exist anywhere on the surface of Mars. If they did, we
would have noticed them in the few images that have been produced
using a normal red filter.
But they are to be found on the spacecraft itself - hence the
conspiracy theories. Standard blue and green paints, it turns out, are
extremely reflective in the infrared, even though they hardly reflect
any red light at all. So the red-yellow-green-blue colour targets
installed on each rover, as well as the bright blue NASA logo, look
very strange indeed. So does the blue insulation around much of the
wiring. The blue paint reflects more than three times as strongly in
infrared as it does in blue. So when the pictures taken with IR-GB
filters are printed as RGB, the result is that the red pigment
overwhelms the blue and you see a deep burgundy or even, with the
insulation, a hot pink. Similarly, the green reflects more than twice
as much infrared as it does green, so the green colour patch ends up a
sort of mustard colour.
Why have they been doing this? Jim Bell of NASA tells me that it's
because the important thing is to get the information the geologists
need to distinguish rock types, and to tell dusty rocks from clean
ones. And for that, infrared is much more useful than red; hence its
use for the main panoramic images we have been seeing.
That's just part of it, though. Because of the reddish dust that
is always in the air, the light falling on the surface of Mars is red
to begin with; the effect is likely to be rather like terrestrial
lighting close to sunset, when hills take on a pink or magenta hue.
And the quality of Mar's red light will depend greatly on the level of
dust as well as the time of day. That's a problem for NASA because the
panoramas it has been showing us are mosaics assembled from dozens of
separate frames. It may take months of fine-tuning to get the colours
consistent between frames.
Still, Bell says, compared to the initial images from Viking,
which were way too red, even the initial images from this mission have
been closer to what things would really look like there. Better still
for Bell, nobody is in a position to argue with him. Until of course
someone goes there to check.

BBC News, "Beagle 'might be in a crater'", 29 December 2004.
[ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3354271.stm ]
Beagle 2 may have fallen down a crater on Mars recently discovered
near where the lander was due to touch down, scientists on the project
have said.
The crater has been discovered on Isidis Planitia, a flattish
basin where Beagle was targeted to land.
...
  #2  
Old February 4th 04, 05:28 PM
ßluepig
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news....tegory=Science


"Alert" wrote in message
om...
NASA's images of Mars are the wrong color

NASA has had to admit that the colours are wrong in most of the images
of Mars taken by their latest mission.

Observers have been complaining that the latest pictures of the Red
Planet are too red. Everything in the pictures appears red - rocks,
dust, sky - even the green, blue, yellow and red paint on the probes
themselves, which should have been used to calibrate the colour in
these pictures!

The surface of Mars looks red, as most people would expect, in the
red-tinted photographs. But what is the true colour of the landscape
in these pictures? Unfortunately, if America did find life on Mars,
especially simple life like blue or green algae or plants living on
the surface, the false colouring of these pictures would conceal it.

The US landed two probes, Spirit and Opportunity, on 4 and 25 January
2004. A British probe, Beagle 2, landed on Mars on 25 December 2003,
but we never saw any pictures from this mission, and nobody knows what
happened to it after the last signals it broadcast moments before
touch-down.

http://www.theinsider.org


SOURCE


New Scientist, "Seeing red on Mars", p 19, 31 January 2004.
[

http://archive.newscientist.com/secu...1&id=mg1812432
3.000
]
NASA has safely landed its rovers. But can it handle the
conspiracy theorists? David L. Chandler investigates
THE rolling landscape of red soil is strewn with dark rocks.
NASA's brace of rovers have certainly confirmed the picture we have
come to expect of Mars. But take a closer look at the images they have
been sending back. Is the Red Planet really, well, quite this red?
Welcome to the latest space conspiracy theory. The soft version of
the story claims that in a bid to make an ordinary-looking, brownish
Mars live up to its billing, NASA has been naughtily tweaking the
colours in Spirit's digital images. The hard version has the evil NASA
doctoring the colours so the rest of us won't notice evidence of life,
such as patches of green.
Leaving aside the question of why NASA would want to hide such a
momentous find, has it been taking liberties with the colours? Talk to
NASA's image experts and you discover that getting the colours right
is a surprisingly difficult - and, despite the technical wizardry
involved, subjective - job. In fact, truly accurate results, the
specialists agree, are not going to happen until people have been to
Mars and seen its colours first-hand.
That said, there are problems related to these Mars rover images,
some of them preventable. And in failing to make it clear just what we
are seeing, NASA has naively allowed conspiracy theorists a field day.
Although there are standard red, green and blue (RGB) filters on
board that can produce a fair approximation of "true" colour, these
have hardly been used. Instead, most of the colour images displayed so
far have been taken through green, blue and infrared filters (IR-GB).
When the infrared gets rendered as red, the results are pretty close
to true, but with some really glaring exceptions. Blue and green, in
particular, just don't come out right. As far as we know, those
colours don't exist anywhere on the surface of Mars. If they did, we
would have noticed them in the few images that have been produced
using a normal red filter.
But they are to be found on the spacecraft itself - hence the
conspiracy theories. Standard blue and green paints, it turns out, are
extremely reflective in the infrared, even though they hardly reflect
any red light at all. So the red-yellow-green-blue colour targets
installed on each rover, as well as the bright blue NASA logo, look
very strange indeed. So does the blue insulation around much of the
wiring. The blue paint reflects more than three times as strongly in
infrared as it does in blue. So when the pictures taken with IR-GB
filters are printed as RGB, the result is that the red pigment
overwhelms the blue and you see a deep burgundy or even, with the
insulation, a hot pink. Similarly, the green reflects more than twice
as much infrared as it does green, so the green colour patch ends up a
sort of mustard colour.
Why have they been doing this? Jim Bell of NASA tells me that it's
because the important thing is to get the information the geologists
need to distinguish rock types, and to tell dusty rocks from clean
ones. And for that, infrared is much more useful than red; hence its
use for the main panoramic images we have been seeing.
That's just part of it, though. Because of the reddish dust that
is always in the air, the light falling on the surface of Mars is red
to begin with; the effect is likely to be rather like terrestrial
lighting close to sunset, when hills take on a pink or magenta hue.
And the quality of Mar's red light will depend greatly on the level of
dust as well as the time of day. That's a problem for NASA because the
panoramas it has been showing us are mosaics assembled from dozens of
separate frames. It may take months of fine-tuning to get the colours
consistent between frames.
Still, Bell says, compared to the initial images from Viking,
which were way too red, even the initial images from this mission have
been closer to what things would really look like there. Better still
for Bell, nobody is in a position to argue with him. Until of course
someone goes there to check.

BBC News, "Beagle 'might be in a crater'", 29 December 2004.
[ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3354271.stm ]
Beagle 2 may have fallen down a crater on Mars recently discovered
near where the lander was due to touch down, scientists on the project
have said.
The crater has been discovered on Isidis Planitia, a flattish
basin where Beagle was targeted to land.
...



 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Space Calendar - February 27, 2004 Ron Astronomy Misc 1 February 27th 04 07:18 PM
Space Calendar - November 26, 2003 Ron Baalke Misc 1 November 28th 03 09:21 AM
Are You Ready For Mars? (Mars Express/Beagle 2) Ron Baalke Misc 0 November 6th 03 04:31 PM
Space Calendar - October 24, 2003 Ron Baalke Astronomy Misc 0 October 24th 03 04:38 PM
Mars in opposition: One for the record books (Forwarded) Andrew Yee Astronomy Misc 0 August 3rd 03 04:56 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 SpaceBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.