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On Jul 2, 8:34?pm, Rob Arndt wrote:
On Jul 2, 7:51?pm, OM wrote:





On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:45:57 -0500, Pat Flannery
wrote:

Yeah, I went over to rec.aviation.military and ran into this whacko.
But his website is something else, to put it mildly:
http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/index.html

...Oh, *he's* the festering little neo-Nazi dickwad who was
responsible for all those "Luftwaffe UFO" pages you sent me a while
back, wasn't he? Granted, his Nutzi idols came up with some really
wild concepts, but most of the ones he's babbled about have about as
much validity as a Wikipedia article about beers brewed in Texas
written by a pair of 15-year-old Limey schoolpunks.

Normally, you'd have to eat a lot of funny mushrooms to come up with
stuff like that.

...He's probably been IV'ing his own home brew. Whether it's
Nyquil-deerived crystal meth, or just his own attempt at cheap beer,
remains to be seen.

OM
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Again, citicism from a comic book fan is hardly insulting.

I just need to find that OM Kryptonite!

But listen to this guy talk in his few posts... butt plugs, mushrooms,
making meth... and of course his promo for his self-admitted obnoxious
blog.

Holy no-common-sense, Batman!

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What did I expect anyway? OM is a friend of Pat Flannery. Seems RAM is
inundated with rejects from the space NG lately- nutcases into comics,
B-movies, and modeling.

Wonder who will show up next???

Rob

Pat Flannery wrote:



OM wrote:


...Oh, *he's* the festering little neo-Nazi dickwad who was
responsible for all those "Luftwaffe UFO" pages you sent me a while
back, wasn't he?


Jah, Mein Fuhrer!
Go over Black Sun for more of the same: http://www.greyfalcon.us/
...and his Star Wars stories!



Arndt is *all* about the irony. On top of his embarassing incident where
he posts my research and then calims I'm ignorant... he thinks he's got
a valid point by pointing out that I make models and OM likes comic
books... while he's the *worst* form of fanboy with his little Star Wars
stories.

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The fact that I have no remedy for all the sorrows of the world is no reason for my accepting yours. It simply supports the strong probability that yours is a fake. - H.L. Mencken

In article .com,
mumbled

And since I have been here at RAM for 9 yrs and posted 1,000s of
photos under multiple S/Ns as well as the old webtv days... it is
impossible for you to say that. My sources come from hundreds of
sites, forums, NGs, and Google navigation. I have probably covered
tens of thousands of pages on my hunts and am known as a forum-raider.

Rob is big on posting stuff and not giving credit where it came from...

--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

Scott Lowther wrote in
:

Arndt is *all* about the irony. On top of his embarassing incident where
he posts my research and then calims I'm ignorant... he thinks he's got
a valid point by pointing out that I make models and OM likes comic
books... while he's the *worst* form of fanboy with his little Star Wars
stories.

We often fail to see ourselves as others can see us.

Mind you, Arndt's got it lots worse than most. If his online
persona is like this, I hate to think what he's like RL.

Bet he doesn't have a girlfriend or wife. I feel sorry for her
if he does.


--Damon

On Jul 2, 9:22?pm, Tankfixer wrote:
In article .com,
mumbled

And since I have been here at RAM for 9 yrs and posted 1,000s of
photos under multiple S/Ns as well as the old webtv days... it is
impossible for you to say that. My sources come from hundreds of
sites, forums, NGs, and Google navigation. I have probably covered
tens of thousands of pages on my hunts and am known as a forum-raider.

Rob is big on posting stuff and not giving credit where it came from...

--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

Most of those site, forums, whatever... don't give credit from the
original source, while others put a watermark or stamp on it and claim
it is theirs. The entire internet is that
way.

Out of millions of sites, how many exclusive pics do you think are
really owned by those people and not taken from another source?

Are you really that naive, Tankfixer?

I can post a huge list of credible sites that blatantly steal from
published works and elsewhere. I have given plenty of examples- many
used by this group in the past- to no avail.

So credit Luftwaffe '46, Virtual Air Museum, Jets '45, Prototypes.com,
etc... they are all theives.

I don't bother, but I do try to credit photos from individuals (if
possible, i.e. known) and artwork (ditto).

Rob

p.s. Internet protocols mean nothing on Usenet- but you already know
that Tankfixer and let others slide

On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 04:22:58 GMT, Tankfixer
wrote:

In article .com,
mumbled

And since I have been here at RAM for 9 yrs and posted 1,000s of
photos under multiple S/Ns as well as the old webtv days... it is
impossible for you to say that. My sources come from hundreds of
sites, forums, NGs, and Google navigation. I have probably covered
tens of thousands of pages on my hunts and am known as a forum-raider.

....You misspelled "raper", you neo-Nazi twit. But then again, you take
pride in having used WebTV. I bet you also wank off to Teletubby
reruns that you've got your TiVo filled to capacity with in lieu of
the kiddie porn your parents raised you on.

Rob is big on posting stuff and not giving credit where it came from...

....That doesn't surprise me by one iota. That way everyone'll have to
guess whether a certain "Nazi Vunder Veapon" was his own concoction,
or if he just stole the hoax from some other dorkwad.

....In any case, I did a Google Groups archive search for ram, and what
someone else noted earler appears to be true: I only went back about
two years, but from the look of things Arndt appears to have run most
of the regulars off that group with his bull**** tirades. The only
ones hanging around "contributing" are the ones who've failed to do
the logical thing and killfile the jerkoff. I'm sure if I wanted to
put the time and effort into crunching the numbers, I'd probably find
out that quite a few of those getting into flame wars with Arndt are
also part of that group of morons who try to flame Brad Guth into
submission.

Bottom Line: Rob Arndt, like Brad Guth and Tommy Lee Elfritz, is a
neo-Nazi troll deserving of nothing but being killfiled and allowed to
rot in his own bile and feces. And the only reason we have to resort
to that method of putting him out of our misery is that he's currently
nowhere near one of us who happens to have a baseball bat handy to
mete out the apropos level of pain, suffering and justice upon his
pointed head.

(Too bad I have the little dograper killfiled. I just bet he's quoting
entire posts and adding two-line taunts at the bottom because he's too
retarded to think of any real responses.)

OM
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On Jul 3, 1:19 pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
Damon Hill wrote:
What will happen is that the ballast will be deeply excavated
right out of the roadbed, the ties burnt and the rails will likely
warp, or try to.

A blast deflector had to have been included in the design.

There is one; the exhaust gets shot out to either side of the tracks
from above them so it won't be closer than say five feet from them
during launch.

Pat

The whole A4 sat on a rotating platform. It had to since the LEV-3
guidance package had only two 'strap down' gyroscopes ( a horizontal
one to take care of pitch and a two degrees of freedom vertical one to
take care of roll and yaw) so the solution was to rotate the whole
plaform to align the vertical one with the whole missile.

The follow on guidence system; the SG-66 had three gyros in a
gimballed cage and in addition to the main accelerometer along the
thrust axis incorporated ones for cross range (cross wind) error
nulling. SG-66 was test flown several time and became the basis of
most post war missiles. I don't know if it was planed to remove the
rotating platform; its certainly conceivable but then the gimballed
system would need to be aligned by a theodolite or some such system
rather than the whole missile.

In article .com,
mumbled
On Jul 2, 9:22?pm, Tankfixer wrote:
In article .com,
mumbled

And since I have been here at RAM for 9 yrs and posted 1,000s of
photos under multiple S/Ns as well as the old webtv days... it is
impossible for you to say that. My sources come from hundreds of
sites, forums, NGs, and Google navigation. I have probably covered
tens of thousands of pages on my hunts and am known as a forum-raider.

Rob is big on posting stuff and not giving credit where it came from...


Most of those site, forums, whatever... don't give credit from the
original source, while others put a watermark or stamp on it and claim
it is theirs. The entire internet is that
way.

Matters not, you can cite where you found them.


Out of millions of sites, how many exclusive pics do you think are
really owned by those people and not taken from another source?

Exclusive pics are probably owned by the one posting them. Or they have
the owners permission if required



Are you really that naive, Tankfixer?

I can post a huge list of credible sites that blatantly steal from
published works and elsewhere. I have given plenty of examples- many
used by this group in the past- to no avail.

So credit Luftwaffe '46, Virtual Air Museum, Jets '45, Prototypes.com,
etc... they are all theives.

Gov photos are in the public domain.


I don't bother, but I do try to credit photos from individuals (if
possible, i.e. known) and artwork (ditto).

Rob

p.s. Internet protocols mean nothing on Usenet- but you already know
that Tankfixer and let others slide

Others don't run around like they are some god of information.

--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

Eunometic wrote:
The follow on guidence system; the SG-66 had three gyros in a
gimballed cage and in addition to the main accelerometer along the
thrust axis incorporated ones for cross range (cross wind) error
nulling. SG-66 was test flown several time and became the basis of
most post war missiles. I don't know if it was planed to remove the
rotating platform; its certainly conceivable but then the gimballed
system would need to be aligned by a theodolite or some such system
rather than the whole missile.


We were still using the crank-around launch pad on the Redstone missile.

Pat

On Jul 6, 1:16 pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
Eunometic wrote:
The follow on guidence system; the SG-66 had three gyros in a
gimballed cage and in addition to the main accelerometer along the
thrust axis incorporated ones for cross range (cross wind) error
nulling. SG-66 was test flown several time and became the basis of
most post war missiles. I don't know if it was planed to remove the
rotating platform; its certainly conceivable but then the gimballed
system would need to be aligned by a theodolite or some such system
rather than the whole missile.

We were still using the crank-around launch pad on the Redstone missile.

Pat

On the Saturn guidance system, on which many of the Penemunde Germans
worked, the gyro and accelerometer package was aligned by optical
methods by windows in the booster. Strictly there were several of
these since changing vibration at various portions of the flight meant
that the sensors needed to be elsewhere at that time Some ICBM's just
use the self aligning properties of the gyro to find north.

Redstone used the same layout as the SG-66 but achieved a CEP of 300
yards. I've always wondered what SG-66 would have achieved if used
in mass. Clearly it didn't have the precision devices of the Redstone
though such things as fluid bearing were being tested. I expect that
SG-66 V2 would still have used the rotating platform.