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If global change really raises ocean levels.
where would launch facilties be relocated to? The KSC type stuff,
since they are literally on the beach. |
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If global change really raises ocean levels.
In article 032c9584-eb34-4f9c-bd4a-
, says... where would launch facilties be relocated to? The KSC type stuff, since they are literally on the beach. If the sky fell, would chicken little die? Jeff -- " Ares 1 is a prime example of the fact that NASA just can't get it up anymore... and when they can, it doesn't stay up long. " - tinker |
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If global change really raises ocean levels.
On 4/3/2012 6:14 AM, bob haller wrote:
where would launch facilties be relocated to? The KSC type stuff, since they are literally on the beach. Virgin Galactic built its Space Port America in New Mexico, at over 1,000 M / 3,000 ft. altitude. SpaceX would need a different type of facility, since it uses vertical launch, but there is plenty of flat, largely unused desert plateau land in New Mexico and Arizona and the U.S. government owns quite a bit of it. -- Catherine Jefferson Blog/Personal: http://www.ergosphere.net |
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On Apr 3, 11:12*am, Catherine Jefferson
wrote: On 4/3/2012 6:14 AM, bob haller wrote: where would launch facilties be relocated to? The KSC type stuff, since they are literally on the beach. Virgin Galactic built its Space Port America in New Mexico, at over 1,000 M / 3,000 ft. altitude. *SpaceX would need a different type of facility, since it uses vertical launch, but there is plenty of flat, largely unused desert plateau land in New Mexico and Arizona and the U.S. government owns quite a bit of it. -- Catherine Jefferson Blog/Personal:http://www.ergosphere.net how about the overflight risk? a malfunction booster coud drop debris on atlanta or other major metropoltian area. the rise in ocean levels and global teperatures appear a fact of life, and look at the number and severity of storms and tornadoes |
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If global change really raises ocean levels.
where would launch facilties be relocated to? The KSC type stuff, since they are literally on the beach. I don't think you have to raise ocean levels - you just have to admit to the existing Hurricane threat that we're told will get worst. Even during tours they talked about how far up the VAB the water level would be if a force 5 came ashore there. While you're at it look at the statistics for launch delays due to weather at the Cape. Not an ideal spot.especially if the nextset of launch windows is 2 years away. Avoiding population areas for New Mexico launches may be possible - need to bring id down before or after - by the time it's over the East Coast it must be at a high enough altitude to drop it in the ocean, the Columbia debris pased over land and didn't hit anything. It would take a real detailed study though. |
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If global change really raises ocean levels.
On 4/3/2012 10:57 AM, bob haller wrote:
how about the overflight risk? a malfunction booster coud drop debris on atlanta or other major metropoltian area. That risk exists anywhere you put the space port. Cape Canaveral is a bigger risk to large urban areas and populations than western New Mexico is. Miami is under 200 miles south; Orlando and Disney World are less than 50 miles west. El Paso, at a population of between 600-700 K, and its sister city Juarez, at a population of around 3 million, is the closest big urban area to Virgin Galactic's "Space Port America". Los Angeles is 700 miles west and a couple degrees of latitude north, farther than Atlanta is from Cape Canaveral. If somebody who is better at doing statistical analysis with maps and geographic data than I am were to look at the real risks, I'm quite sure that they'd put northern New Mexico on the lower end of the risk spectrum. the rise in ocean levels and global teperatures appear a fact of life, and look at the number and severity of storms and tornadoes None of this is new. :-) I don't like the idea of eroding coastlines and flooded cities any better than most people do, but the human race has survived greater temperature variations and more flooding than are reasonably predicted now. We adapt. So far, we have adapted successfully. When we quit adapting, we will die. Meanwhile, I'm looking forward to seeing commercial spaceflight take off. It really is time, and past time. -- Catherine Jefferson Blog/Personal: http://www.ergosphere.net |
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On Apr 3, 6:14*am, bob haller wrote:
where would launch facilties be relocated to? The KSC type stuff, since they are literally on the beach. Sea-launch platform(s). I have a way better design. http://groups.google.com/groups/search http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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On 4/3/2012 8:14 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
I'm sure that will comfort that sheep rancher and his family when you crash something into them. That's the problem with launching over land, you see. You s True, but equally true of launching over water, especially on a coast as full of watercraft as the Florida Atlantic coast. How familiar are you with that part of New Mexico? I grew up in El Paso. It isn't deserted, but it is possible to find locations in New Mexico where you could easily launch on a trajectory that wouldn't take you over inhabited land for a couple hundred miles at least. Space Port America is adjacent to White Sands Missile Range, for example. That's where they test much of the new missiles that the U.S. military uses. The risks of a missile crashing and exploding are nearly 100%, and many of them are just as destructive (if not more) than a crashing spacecraft would be. -- Catherine Jefferson Blog/Personal: http://www.ergosphere.net |
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