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NASA Studying Russian 12-month Plan
Any progress on NASA's studying
the Russian proposal for the next ISS crew to stay up for 12 months? From what i can hear, there's a major internal debate over this idea -- go for it, or be cautious. |
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NASA Studying Russian 12-month Plan
On or about Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:36:59 GMT, JimO
made the sensational claim that: From what i can hear, there's a major internal debate over this idea -- go for it, or be cautious. I would have thought the 'debate' would be about how best to delude themselves into believing this is a 'good NASA idea' as opposed to kissing russian ass yet again. -- This is a siggy | To E-mail, do note | Just because something It's properly formatted | who you mean to reply-to | is possible, doesn't No person, none, care | and it will reach me | mean it can happen |
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NASA Studying Russian 12-month Plan
"Doug..." wrote in Well, the issue has apparently been decided. NASA turned thumbs-down to the plan, according to a variety of sources. "A variety of sources" means my article on msnbc.com, and NASA PAO's tacky response: I called them yesterday noon for confirmation of what I had learend re the April 6 Kostelnik memo, and before I got their answer, they had emailed out a statement to two dozen other space journalists with the information that I had shaken loose (no mention of me). Fortunately, I had not let their delays slow down posting our msnbc.com article first. Now they say their mass mailing was just in response to long-standing interest expressed by these newsmen from an earlier press conference -- but the Kostelnik memo was sent on April 6, and it wasn't until April 19, two hours after MY fact-check inquiry, that they sent out the news about it. I believe in cause-and-effect, not mere coincidence, in this case. |
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NASA Studying Russian 12-month Plan
"JimO" writes:
Any progress on NASA's studying the Russian proposal for the next ISS crew to stay up for 12 months? From what i can hear, there's a major internal debate over this idea -- go for it, or be cautious. I find some of the comments (in your article) by NASA astronauts very disturbing. They make it sound like they wouldn't consider taking that long of a mission. If that's the case, perhaps NASA needs to "clean house" very soon. If we aren't flying astronauts now that are willing to perform long duration missions, how do we ever expect to get to Mars? If there really are medical issues with flights this long, wouldn't it be prudent to find out about them a.s.a.p.? If this does turn out to be the case, the solution could be an engineering one. You split your ship into two parts, separated by a long cable, and spin the thing for the trip to and from Mars. If it turns out such a solution is necessary, it would be nice to know about this as far in advance as possible so prototype designs can be built and tested in LEO. Jeff -- Remove "no" and "spam" from email address to reply. If it says "This is not spam!", it's surely a lie. |
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NASA Studying Russian 12-month Plan
In article ,
says... "Doug..." wrote in Well, the issue has apparently been decided. NASA turned thumbs-down to the plan, according to a variety of sources. "A variety of sources" means my article on msnbc.com, and NASA PAO's tacky response: I called them yesterday noon for confirmation of what I had learend re the April 6 Kostelnik memo, and before I got their answer, they had emailed out a statement to two dozen other space journalists with the information that I had shaken loose (no mention of me). Fortunately, I had not let their delays slow down posting our msnbc.com article first. Now they say their mass mailing was just in response to long-standing interest expressed by these newsmen from an earlier press conference -- but the Kostelnik memo was sent on April 6, and it wasn't until April 19, two hours after MY fact-check inquiry, that they sent out the news about it. I believe in cause-and-effect, not mere coincidence, in this case. I agree -- and yes, your column was the first place I saw the story that NASA was turning down the Russian plan. I then saw it in two other places (where, I can't recall at the moment), so I decided to just mention "a variety of sources." It's important that you get the credit due, though -- congrats on getting it out first! Doug |
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NASA Studying Russian 12-month Plan
During the Soyuz launch, the NASA commentator made a most interesting comment.
He mentioned that Fincke was going up for a 6 month mission, but omitted Padalka's name. That would lead me to believe that perhaps Padalka might stay for one year. And it would put the rather last minute change in crews in perspective as well. Perhaps Padalka is "compatible" with both Fincke and the next american to come up, wheras the previous russian wasn't. Of course, this is based on the assumption that the PAO commentator would have been told to carefully not mention the russian crewmember's mission duration. |
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NASA Studying Russian 12-month Plan
In article ,
says... "JimO" writes: Any progress on NASA's studying the Russian proposal for the next ISS crew to stay up for 12 months? From what i can hear, there's a major internal debate over this idea -- go for it, or be cautious. I find some of the comments (in your article) by NASA astronauts very disturbing. They make it sound like they wouldn't consider taking that long of a mission. If that's the case, perhaps NASA needs to "clean house" very soon. If we aren't flying astronauts now that are willing to perform long duration missions, how do we ever expect to get to Mars? If there really are medical issues with flights this long, wouldn't it be prudent to find out about them a.s.a.p.? If this does turn out to be the case, the solution could be an engineering one. You split your ship into two parts, separated by a long cable, and spin the thing for the trip to and from Mars. If it turns out such a solution is necessary, it would be nice to know about this as far in advance as possible so prototype designs can be built and tested in LEO. Yeah -- I half-expected to see a line like "NASA consultant Bob Haller said, 'We're never going to fly anyone for that long -- it's an invitation to disaster! Hell, just going into space is too risky. We should just sit and shove our thumbs up our own asses and let countries who have no respect for my definition of 'safety' risk THEIR necks exploring space." But seriously, there does seem to be a bad rash of chicken-little thinking going on here. If Chiao doesn't want to be away from his family for a whole year, **** him -- find one of the astronauts who doesn't mind and give the flight to him/her. If the doctors are playing chicken little, find doctors who can judge based on the facts and not their "gut feelings" on the subject. Then again, America is becoming a gutless society whose members would rather sit in locked homes in terror that some bearded monkey might fly an airliner into their neighborhood than go out and live their lives -- so this decision doesn't surprise me in the least. Doug |
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NASA Studying Russian 12-month Plan
In principle, couldn't qualified ESA 'Soyuz commanders' such as Reiter or
Haignere be the commander? "Dave Fowler" wrote in message ... From: John Doe That would lead me to believe that perhaps Padalka might stay for one year. There's no financial advantage for them to keep him up a year, because every Soyuz will require a Russian commander, even if the other two seats were sold for cash. DF |
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