Does Mars need women? Russians say no

Scott Hedrick wrote:

"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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Rand, I hate to break it to you, but I haven't had sex with a woman (or
anyone else, if your wondering) in around 22 years-



Which explains the link to the duck homosexual necrophilia...




I have only one thing to say to a scurrilous canard like that- "Aflac!"
"Say the magic woid, and down comes the horny gay duck."
Now that would have livened things up, wouldn't it?
I once shot a homosexual necrophilic duck in my pajamas...how it got
into my pajamas is beyond me...let's just say that was the last time I
wore duck egg blue pajamas...at least while hunting. :-)

Groucho

"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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Alternately, one with air pressurized tubes that would
take effort to move, thereby using the stiffness problem of pressure
suits to one's advantage?

After posting a link to a duck fornicating with a dead duck, you really
shouldn't talk about stiff tubes.

In article ,
rk wrote:
...None of this has been tested yet with crews on Mir and Alpha
having been too small.

There are higher priority problems and issues to deal with at the moment than
the sexual issues in space that interest you.

Besides, there's nothing particularly unique about space in those areas.
There is extensive relevant Earth experience, e.g. from Antarctic stations
(yes, there are many Antarctic stations now with mixed crews, some small).
There are issues, but they are manageable.

Incidentally, provided they are halfway mature, men behave *better* in a
mixed crew than in an all-male one.

Also remember that interactive communications with a spouse will
not be possible once far enough from earth, and that is something which
has not really been tested much so far. And it isn't just the person is
space one much consider, but also the spouse and possibly kids who won't
see their parent for such a long time.

Evidently John Doe has never heard of submarines, or polar expeditions,
or etc. etc. Interactive communication beyond shouting distance is new,
barely a century old, and still doesn't reach everywhere people go.
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In article ,
says...
John Doe wrote:

snip

Also remember that interactive communications with a spouse will
not be possible once far enough from earth, and that is something which
has not really been tested much so far. And it isn't just the person is
space one much consider, but also the spouse and possibly kids who won't
see their parent for such a long time.

OK, so there's your excuse, the married woman in the experiment just needed
it, he was doing a public service, eh, Mezei?

I will point out that there was a rather nasty flap in the press a
couple of years ago regarding a Russian-sponsored isolation experiment.
The experiment was designed to put a mixed-nationality, mixed-sex crew
into a situation roughly similar to that of an extended planetary flight
-- no real-time communications with the outside, a timeline of system
maintenance and extended training for later mission phases... that kind
of thing.

The experiment ended rather abruptly when one of the Russian men decided
to grab, fondle and roughly kiss one of the American women. Against her
will.

The Russian government has downplayed the whole incident as just
representing the "ebullient good spirits" of the Russian man involved.
The guy himself said something along the lines of "It's just the Russian
way of being nice to a woman -- wink, wink."

The non-Russians withdrew from the experiment immediately after this
incident, IIRC.

So, there is definitely an issue out there. It's an issue that *will*
have to be addressed in one form or another, whether or not we want to
admit that it will likely rear its ugly head at some point...

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Doug... wrote in
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In article ,
says...
John Doe wrote:

snip

Also remember that interactive communications with a spouse will
not be possible once far enough from earth, and that is something
which has not really been tested much so far. And it isn't just the
person is space one much consider, but also the spouse and possibly
kids who won't see their parent for such a long time.

OK, so there's your excuse, the married woman in the experiment just
needed it, he was doing a public service, eh, Mezei?

I will point out that there was a rather nasty flap in the press a
couple of years ago regarding a Russian-sponsored isolation
experiment. The experiment was designed to put a mixed-nationality,
mixed-sex crew into a situation roughly similar to that of an extended
planetary flight -- no real-time communications with the outside, a
timeline of system maintenance and extended training for later mission
phases... that kind of thing.

The experiment ended rather abruptly when one of the Russian men
decided to grab, fondle and roughly kiss one of the American women.
Against her will.

Umm, Doug, you *might* want to review the thread before jumping in...
that's the exact incident that everyone's been arguing about.


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In article ,
says...
Doug... wrote in
:

In article ,
says...
John Doe wrote:

snip

Also remember that interactive communications with a spouse will
not be possible once far enough from earth, and that is something
which has not really been tested much so far. And it isn't just the
person is space one much consider, but also the spouse and possibly
kids who won't see their parent for such a long time.

OK, so there's your excuse, the married woman in the experiment just
needed it, he was doing a public service, eh, Mezei?

I will point out that there was a rather nasty flap in the press a
couple of years ago regarding a Russian-sponsored isolation
experiment. The experiment was designed to put a mixed-nationality,
mixed-sex crew into a situation roughly similar to that of an extended
planetary flight -- no real-time communications with the outside, a
timeline of system maintenance and extended training for later mission
phases... that kind of thing.

The experiment ended rather abruptly when one of the Russian men
decided to grab, fondle and roughly kiss one of the American women.
Against her will.

Umm, Doug, you *might* want to review the thread before jumping in...
that's the exact incident that everyone's been arguing about.

I guess my server missed a few posts -- I thought people were discussing
the recent Russian declaration that all-male crews were preferable for
Mars missions, followed by a discussion of why, and why not. Sorry, I
missed specific references to the event I discussed...

Such are the joys of inconsistent news servers!

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distributed right." -Mark Twain

"Rhonda Lea Kirk" wrote in message
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Pat Flannery wrote:
Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:

Andre No proof offered? Claim fails. /Andre

(Sorry, Rand, I just couldn't help myself.)

Watch it Rhonda, you're dealing with a space Lothario
here. ;-)

No worries. My heart belongs to you, Pat.

But her pancreas is all mine1




rl

Doug... wrote in
:

In article ,
says...
Doug... wrote in
:

In article ,
says...
John Doe wrote:

snip

Also remember that interactive communications with a spouse will
not be possible once far enough from earth, and that is something
which has not really been tested much so far. And it isn't just the
person is space one much consider, but also the spouse and possibly
kids who won't see their parent for such a long time.

OK, so there's your excuse, the married woman in the experiment just
needed it, he was doing a public service, eh, Mezei?

I will point out that there was a rather nasty flap in the press a
couple of years ago regarding a Russian-sponsored isolation
experiment. The experiment was designed to put a mixed-nationality,
mixed-sex crew into a situation roughly similar to that of an extended
planetary flight -- no real-time communications with the outside, a
timeline of system maintenance and extended training for later mission
phases... that kind of thing.

The experiment ended rather abruptly when one of the Russian men
decided to grab, fondle and roughly kiss one of the American women.
Against her will.

Umm, Doug, you *might* want to review the thread before jumping in...
that's the exact incident that everyone's been arguing about.

I guess my server missed a few posts -- I thought people were discussing
the recent Russian declaration that all-male crews were preferable for
Mars missions, followed by a discussion of why, and why not. Sorry, I
missed specific references to the event I discussed...

It just occurred to me: do you use killfiles? One person involved in the
discussion of the incident is a frequent resident in many regulars'
killfiles, and if your newsreader is sophisticated enough to kill replies
as well, you may never have seen the discussion.


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Jorge R. Frank wrote:
Doug... wrote
Jorge Frank wrote:
Doug... wrote:
rk says...
John Doe wrote:

snip

Also remember that interactive communications
with a spouse will
not be possible once far enough from earth, and
that is something
which has not really been tested much so far.
And it isn't just
the person is space one much consider, but also
the spouse and
possibly kids who won't see their parent for
such a long time.

OK, so there's your excuse, the married woman in
the experiment
just needed it, he was doing a public service,
eh, Mezei?

I will point out that there was a rather nasty
flap in the press a
couple of years ago regarding a Russian-sponsored
isolation
experiment. The experiment was designed to put a
mixed-nationality, mixed-sex crew into a situation
roughly similar
to that of an extended planetary flight -- no
real-time
communications with the outside, a timeline of
system maintenance
and extended training for later mission phases...
that kind of
thing.

The experiment ended rather abruptly when one of
the Russian men
decided to grab, fondle and roughly kiss one of
the American women.
Against her will.

Umm, Doug, you *might* want to review the thread
before jumping
in... that's the exact incident that everyone's
been arguing about.

I guess my server missed a few posts -- I thought
people were
discussing the recent Russian declaration that
all-male crews were
preferable for Mars missions, followed by a
discussion of why, and
why not. Sorry, I missed specific references to the
event I
discussed...

It just occurred to me: do you use killfiles? One
person involved in
the discussion of the incident is a frequent resident
in many
regulars' killfiles, and if your newsreader is
sophisticated enough
to kill replies as well, you may never have seen the
discussion.

I thought at first that it might be because he was
reading from a different group--some people have been
trimming headers and others have not, which has led to
some odd sub-threads, including this one.

But when I went back and looked at both groups, the
Lapierre incident is retold in the thread immediately
prior to this one entitled: "Russian: MEN WILL BE FIRST
TO GO TO MARS" and only referred to in this thread
beginning with Rand's
response to "John Doe."

rl

In article ,
says...

snip

It just occurred to me: do you use killfiles? One person involved in the
discussion of the incident is a frequent resident in many regulars'
killfiles, and if your newsreader is sophisticated enough to kill replies
as well, you may never have seen the discussion.

I bet that's it. I have Rand in permanent killfile exile -- I just
can't stomach his sanctimonious attitude -- and if most of the
referenced discussion was in Rand's posts, then my killfile probably
took it right out of what my reader shows me.

Thanks, Jorge -- I usually figure that responses to those I have
killfiled will let me get the gist of any point made in a thread, here.
This time, it seems to have backfired on me... *sigh*...

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"The problem isn't that there are so | Doug Van Dorn
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distributed right." -Mark Twain