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2007 TU24 to be Radar Imaged in Great Detail.



 
 
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Old January 25th 08, 05:04 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
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Default 2007 TU24 to be Radar Imaged in Great Detail.

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n...id/index2.html

We were all waiting for this announcement. Arecibo is a science jewel.
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Old January 25th 08, 05:32 PM posted to sci.space.policy, sci.space.history, sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
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Default 2007 TU24 to be Radar Imaged in Great Detail.

Arecibo is going to be closed down, the univesity can't find anybody
with the money to keep it open. A shame too since they just finished
an upgrade and repainting not too long ago.
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Old January 25th 08, 05:48 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
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Default 2007 TU24 to be Radar Imaged in Great Detail.

D. Orbitt wrote:

Arecibo is going to be closed down, the univesity can't find anybody
with the money to keep it open. A shame too since they just finished
an upgrade and repainting not too long ago.


If they get some really good shots of TU24, maybe they will reconsider.

Asteroids are a major threat.
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Old January 25th 08, 09:35 PM posted to sci.space.policy, sci.space.history, sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
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Default 2007 TU24 to be Radar Imaged in Great Detail.

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If they get some really good shots of TU24, maybe they will reconsider.

Asteroids are a major threat.


Not bloody likely, until AFTER a BIG ONE hits and causes major panic.
Only THEN will there be a political scramble for more and better
sapceguard funding and deployment. Absent that major knock onthe head,
don't count on politicians to do anything about it. They can't think
ahead any further than their next election.


"If they get some really good shots of TU24, maybe they will
reconsider."

Not unless they charge 2 million per picture. I think that's the bare
minimum the University spends on annual operations for "El Radar".
Could be more. Federal funding was cut with NASA's official blessing,
of course they just do what the President tells them.

No bucks, no Buck Rogers. There are none so blind as those who will
not pay to let the telescope continue to see. When they shut down
Aricebo, the Goldstone dish will be the largest remaining operational
radio telescope I know of that's at all steerable. Goldstone, last I
read, is usually tied up most of the time for DSTN and planetary probe
communications work.

There may be a powerful radar/radio telescope in Russia somewhere
that's bigger, but their programs are even more destitute than ours,
it's probably been turned into condos for nuveau-rich oil oligarcs and
Russian mafiosi.

Things look bleak and the best "hope" is to pray for a disaster, not
good.



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Old January 26th 08, 05:01 PM posted to sci.space.policy, sci.space.history, sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
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Default 2007 TU24 to be Radar Imaged in Great Detail.

On Jan 25, 4:35�pm, "D. Orbitt" wrote:
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If they get some really good shots of TU24, maybe they will reconsider.


Asteroids are a major threat.


Not bloody likely, until AFTER a BIG ONE hits and causes major panic.
Only THEN will there be a political scramble for more and better
sapceguard funding and deployment. Absent that major knock onthe head,
don't count on politicians to do anything about it. They can't think
ahead any further than their next election.

"If they get some really good shots of TU24, maybe they will
reconsider."

Not unless they charge 2 million per picture. I think that's the bare
minimum the University spends on annual operations for "El Radar".
Could be more. Federal funding was cut with NASA's official blessing,
of course they just do what the President tells them.

No bucks, no Buck Rogers. �There are none so blind as those who will
not pay to let the telescope continue to see. When they shut down
Aricebo, the Goldstone dish will be the largest remaining operational
radio telescope I know of that's at all steerable. �Goldstone, last I
read, is usually tied up most of the time for DSTN and planetary probe
communications work.

There may be a powerful radar/radio telescope in Russia somewhere
that's bigger, but their programs are even more destitute than ours,
it's probably been turned into condos for nuveau-rich oil oligarcs and
Russian mafiosi.

Things look bleak and the best "hope" is to pray for a disaster, not
good.


nasa cuts all science in favor of ISS, even to the point of cutting
science from ISS
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Old January 26th 08, 05:30 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
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Default 2007 TU24 to be Radar Imaged in Great Detail.

bob haller safety advocate wrote:
On Jan 25, 4:35�pm, "D. Orbitt" wrote:
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If they get some really good shots of TU24, maybe they will reconsider.
Asteroids are a major threat.

Not bloody likely, until AFTER a BIG ONE hits and causes major panic.
Only THEN will there be a political scramble for more and better
sapceguard funding and deployment. Absent that major knock onthe head,
don't count on politicians to do anything about it. They can't think
ahead any further than their next election.

"If they get some really good shots of TU24, maybe they will
reconsider."

Not unless they charge 2 million per picture. I think that's the bare
minimum the University spends on annual operations for "El Radar".
Could be more. Federal funding was cut with NASA's official blessing,
of course they just do what the President tells them.

No bucks, no Buck Rogers. �There are none so blind as those who will
not pay to let the telescope continue to see. When they shut down
Aricebo, the Goldstone dish will be the largest remaining operational
radio telescope I know of that's at all steerable. �Goldstone, last I
read, is usually tied up most of the time for DSTN and planetary probe
communications work.

There may be a powerful radar/radio telescope in Russia somewhere
that's bigger, but their programs are even more destitute than ours,
it's probably been turned into condos for nuveau-rich oil oligarcs and
Russian mafiosi.

Things look bleak and the best "hope" is to pray for a disaster, not
good.


nasa cuts all science in favor of ISS, even to the point of cutting
science from ISS


That's not true, they are cutting science if favor of VSE and ESAS.

Back to the topic at hand, there are preliminary images :

http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=1692

Hopefully Arecibo will do better.
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Old January 27th 08, 10:29 AM posted to sci.space.policy, sci.space.history, sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
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Default 2007 TU24 to be Radar Imaged in Great Detail.

JPL's Near Earth Objects programm offers a Orbit Diagramm of 2007TU24:

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=2007%20TU24;orb=1


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Old January 29th 08, 01:36 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Jan Vorbrüggen[_2_]
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Default 2007 TU24 to be Radar Imaged in Great Detail.

When they shut down
Aricebo, the Goldstone dish will be the largest remaining operational
radio telescope I know of that's at all steerable.


Effelsberg in Germany is larger (100 m vs 70 m dish diameter) and is
used for research exclusively.

But loosing Arecibo will really be a shame.

Jan
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Old January 29th 08, 01:52 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
André, PE1PQX
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Default 2007 TU24 to be Radar Imaged in Great Detail.

Jan Vorbrüggen stelde dit idée voor :
When they shut down
Aricebo, the Goldstone dish will be the largest remaining operational
radio telescope I know of that's at all steerable.


Effelsberg in Germany is larger (100 m vs 70 m dish diameter) and is used for
research exclusively.

But loosing Arecibo will really be a shame.

Jan


Don't forget the dish array at Westerbork, see
http://www.astron.nl/p/WSRT2.htm

André


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Old January 29th 08, 05:25 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
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Default 2007 TU24 to be Radar Imaged in Great Detail.

Don't forget the dish array at Westerbork, see
http://www.astron.nl/p/WSRT2.htm


Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bank_Telescope (about 100m,
steerable).

But Arecibo, at 305 m, is much larger than any of these (although it
is only slightly steerable, so you have to wait for your target to
pass over the dish).
 




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