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"oriel36" wrote in message
... On Dec 27, 4:23 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 12:51 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" wrote in message ... This not invite responses from thugs and science fiction fans,it is a highly technical topic that is within the vernacular of the interested adult and it represent the single most important topic in science as engineers try to justify the abolition of an already unjustifiable 'leap second' and the right ascension reasoning from which it emerged. Most here have staked their reputations on promoting the 'solar vs sidereal' nonsense ================================================== == You need not worry about staking YOUR reputation, thug. "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of a crank. Nobody "promotes" the simple fact of sidereal time understood by everybody except you, facts do not need promoting. Trying to play a Usenet thug among your own in sci.relativity might work there but this is saa ================================================== ===== "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of a lunatic. Nobody here (saa) is fooled by you calling a simple fact "junk", lunatic, many here (saa) have clock driven telescope mounts that are not junk, they operate on sidereal time and turn the telescope 361 degrees in 24 hours because the Earth turns 361 degrees in 24 hours, which they understand and you don't. The now bypassed 'solar vs sidereal' nonsense ============================================= "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of spewing nonsense. Nobody here (saa) is fooled by you calling a simple fact "nonsense", lunatic, many here (saa) have clock driven telescope mounts that are not nonsense, they operate on sidereal time and turn the telescope 361 degrees in 24 hours because the Earth turns 361 degrees in 24 hours, which they understand and you don't. Most ignore you completely. I should too, but as you are a bullying thug I'll go toe to toe with you and slap you hard. You need not worry about staking YOUR reputation, vicious nonsensical thug. -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. When I get my O.B.E. I'll be an earlobe. |
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On Dec 27, 5:30*pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
wrote: "oriel36" *wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 4:23 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" *wrote in message .... On Dec 27, 12:51 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" *wrote in message .... This not invite responses from thugs and science fiction fans,it is a highly technical topic that is within the vernacular of the interested adult and it represent the single most important topic in science as engineers try to justify the abolition of an already unjustifiable 'leap second' and the right ascension reasoning from which it emerged.. Most here have staked their reputations on promoting the 'solar vs sidereal' nonsense ================================================== == You need not worry about staking YOUR reputation, thug. "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of a crank. Nobody "promotes" the simple fact of sidereal time understood by everybody except you, facts do not need promoting. Trying to play a Usenet thug among your own in sci.relativity might work there but this is saa ================================================== ===== "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of a lunatic. Nobody here (saa) is fooled by you calling a simple fact "junk", lunatic, many here (saa) *have clock driven telescope mounts that are not junk, they operate on sidereal time and turn the telescope 361 degrees in 24 hours because the Earth turns 361 degrees in 24 hours, which they understand and you don't. The *now bypassed 'solar vs sidereal' nonsense ============================================= "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of spewing nonsense. Nobody here (saa) is fooled by you calling a simple fact "nonsense", lunatic, many here (saa) *have clock driven telescope mounts that are not nonsense, they operate on sidereal time and turn the telescope 361 degrees in 24 hours because the Earth turns 361 degrees in 24 hours, which they understand and you don't. Most ignore you completely. I should too, but as you are a bullying thug I'll go toe to toe with you and slap you hard. You need not worry about staking YOUR reputation, vicious nonsensical thug. -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. When I get my O.B.E. I'll be an earlobe. You are fine and can safely return to those who live off the same fumes of relativity and other bypassed notions,a thug will always be a thug and only know existence by what they hate and as a follower of that unfortunate brand of empiricism that quickly took hold of the original purposeful version in Royal Society England will eventually fade and wither. What an incredible English monarch with all the class,intelligence,courage and style that you do not possess and it was to another monarch that John Harrison turned in demonstrating how the 24 hour AM/PM cycle works with the Lat/Long system and eventually received his just reward from the complaints of Ra/Dec empiricists,a dismal and dour group to which you belong - http://books.google.ie/books?id=8roA...ge &q&f=false "The application of a Timekeeper to this discovery is founded upon the following principles: the earth's surface is divided into 360 equal parts (by imaginary lines drawn from North to South) which are called Degrees of Longitude; and its daily revolution Eastward round its own axis is performed in 24 hours; consequently in that period, each of those imaginary lines or degrees, becomes successively opposite to the Sun (which makes the noon or precise middle of the day at each of those degrees and it must follow, that from the time any one of those lines passes the Sun, till the next passes, must be just four minutes, for 24 hours being divided by 360 will give that quantity; so that for every degree of Longitude we sail Westward, it will be noon with us four minutes the later, and for every degree Eastward four minutes the sooner, and so on in proportion for any greater or less quantity. Now, the exact time of the day at the place where we are, can be ascertained by well known and easy observations of the Sun if visible for a few minutes at any time from his being ten degrees high until within an hour of noon, or from an hour after noon until he is only 10 degrees high in the afternoon; if therefore, at any time when such observation is made, a Timekeeper tells us at the same moment what o'clock it is at the place we sailed from, our Longitude is clearly discovered." John Harrison You live by knowing what you hate,I live by my inheritance which belongs to all humanity and especially in the connection between the individual and the Universal in material and Spiritual terms.Above is a description of the system which many today would destroy by inventing 'new' stories around timekeeping and the rotation of the planet and it is not going to happen regardless of how many of you there are or what stranglehold you have on astronomy.It will be done because a standard is raised above what tethers on the boundaries of intellectual oblivion at the moment and it is something you share with all others here as you so rightly point out. |
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"oriel36" wrote in message
... On Dec 27, 5:30 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 4:23 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" wrote in message .... On Dec 27, 12:51 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" wrote in message ... This not invite responses from thugs and science fiction fans,it is a highly technical topic that is within the vernacular of the interested adult and it represent the single most important topic in science as engineers try to justify the abolition of an already unjustifiable 'leap second' and the right ascension reasoning from which it emerged. Most here have staked their reputations on promoting the 'solar vs sidereal' nonsense ================================================== == You need not worry about staking YOUR reputation, thug. "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of a crank. Nobody "promotes" the simple fact of sidereal time understood by everybody except you, facts do not need promoting. Trying to play a Usenet thug among your own in sci.relativity might work there but this is saa ================================================== ===== "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of a lunatic. Nobody here (saa) is fooled by you calling a simple fact "junk", lunatic, many here (saa) have clock driven telescope mounts that are not junk, they operate on sidereal time and turn the telescope 361 degrees in 24 hours because the Earth turns 361 degrees in 24 hours, which they understand and you don't. The now bypassed 'solar vs sidereal' nonsense ============================================= "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of spewing nonsense. Nobody here (saa) is fooled by you calling a simple fact "nonsense", lunatic, many here (saa) have clock driven telescope mounts that are not nonsense, they operate on sidereal time and turn the telescope 361 degrees in 24 hours because the Earth turns 361 degrees in 24 hours, which they understand and you don't. Most ignore you completely. I should too, but as you are a bullying thug I'll go toe to toe with you and slap you hard. You need not worry about staking YOUR reputation, vicious nonsensical thug. -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. When I get my O.B.E. I'll be an earlobe. You are fine =========================== Yes, I am, but YOU are a moronic thug with the well-deserved reputation of an idiot. Many here (saa) have clock driven telescope mounts that operate on sidereal time and turn the telescope 361 degrees in 24 hours because the Earth turns 361 degrees in 24 hours. You try to bully them into believing your nonsense, you ignorant thug, and I'll slap you for it. -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. When I get my O.B.E. I'll be an earlobe. |
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On Dec 27, 8:26*pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
wrote: "oriel36" *wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 5:30 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" *wrote in message .... On Dec 27, 4:23 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" *wrote in message .... On Dec 27, 12:51 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" *wrote in message ... This not invite responses from thugs and science fiction fans,it is a highly technical topic that is within the vernacular of the interested adult and it represent the single most important topic in science as engineers try to justify the abolition of an already unjustifiable 'leap second' and the right ascension reasoning from which it emerged. Most here have staked their reputations on promoting the 'solar vs sidereal' nonsense ================================================== == You need not worry about staking YOUR reputation, thug. "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of a crank. Nobody "promotes" the simple fact of sidereal time understood by everybody except you, facts do not need promoting. Trying to play a Usenet thug among your own in sci.relativity might work there but this is saa ================================================== ===== "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of a lunatic. Nobody here (saa) is fooled by you calling a simple fact "junk", lunatic, many here (saa) *have clock driven telescope mounts that are not junk, they operate on sidereal time and turn the telescope 361 degrees in 24 hours because the Earth turns 361 degrees in 24 hours, which they understand and you don't. The *now bypassed 'solar vs sidereal' nonsense ============================================= "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of spewing nonsense. Nobody here (saa) is fooled by you calling a simple fact "nonsense", lunatic, many here (saa) *have clock driven telescope mounts that are not nonsense, they operate on sidereal time and turn the telescope 361 degrees in 24 hours because the Earth turns 361 degrees in 24 hours, which they understand and you don't. Most ignore you completely. I should too, but as you are a bullying thug I'll go toe to toe with you and slap you hard. You need not worry about staking YOUR reputation, vicious nonsensical thug. -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. When I get my O.B.E. I'll be an earlobe. You are fine =========================== Yes, I am, but YOU are a moronic thug with the well-deserved reputation of an idiot. Many here (saa) *have clock driven telescope mounts that operate on sidereal time and turn the telescope 361 degrees in 24 hours because the Earth turns 361 degrees in 24 hours. Their clock driven telescopes turn about their own homocentric axis which require no meridian lines to set up and do not imitate the Lat/ Long system which contains the information of latitudinal rotational speeds for each location North or South of the maximum equatorial speed.They turn at their own clockwork speed based on the average 24 hour day within the confines of the 365 day/366 day system which diverges from the natural system of 365 1/4 rotations per annual circuit. None of you believe in good nor evil,you act in such a way that is less than humans normally act by your aggressiveness or by your silence and yet you would have the world believe you are astronomers,salaried or otherwise.When faced with Harrison or Huygens,whether the great Egyptian or neolithic astronomers ,whether the influences of Copernicus or Galileo as they dictate human striving to understand their astronomical surroundings you want none of it because it is in your nature to destroy what you cannot understand. For too long now I have stood here waiting for good and decent people to show up and take this fight to restore a narrative that students and interested adults can use,genuine researchers can build on and this gross speculative era of reckless mathematical theorists and their models will come to an end using all the interpretative power contemporary imaging allows. You serve your side well but you still are bound to anti-astronomy empiricism like everyone else here. You try to bully them into believing your nonsense, you ignorant thug, and I'll slap you for it. -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. When I get my O.B.E. I'll be an earlobe. |
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On Dec 27, 2:05*pm, oriel36 wrote:
For too long now I have stood here waiting for good and decent people to show up and take this fight to restore a narrative that students and interested adults can use,genuine researchers can build on and this gross speculative era *of reckless mathematical theorists and their models will come to an end using all *the interpretative power contemporary imaging allows. Unlike the other fellow, I wish to be polite and respectful towards you - despite being called a nuisance because I have admitted to enjoying science fiction. The sentence quoted above is not surprising, as it echoes much that you have been saying. But I really wish you were realizing what you were saying. You may talk about "speculation" and "reckless mathematical theorists", and "models" and so on, but how do you explain, for example, the discovery of Neptune, based on small deviations of the motion of Uranus from Keplers' laws, if you reject the mathematical model derived from Newton's inverse-square law of gravitation? We know from hard-won experience, and genuine effort expended on accurate calculations, that applying the laws of mechanics to the heavens as we do to moving bodies on Earth *works* - it tells us things that we would not otherwise know. Such as where to point our telescopes in order to find Neptune. Science is an ongoing effort to add to human knowledge. When you recommend taking an "interpretive" approach to astronomy, you appear to be calling for a shift from an empirical approach in which new ideas can be tested against reality to a dead-end subjective approach - in which we meditate on the heavens, and suggest ideas which can only be judged by how nice they sound. To you, that's real astronomy, and so empiricism is "anti-astronomy". To the rest of the world, that is so bizarre that you are met with a blank stare of incredulity. Science - even including astronomy - is a serious business of finding out how the world really works so that we can better manipulate Nature to our ends. When those ends are building ever deadlier weapons of destruction, first the atom bomb, then the hydrogen bomb... I can understand why some might be emotionally disaffected from science. But scientific knowledge is turned to all types of technological advance... from the trifling to the humanitarian; science also helps to feed the hungry, and to meet other basic needs, such as shelter and clothing, for example through improving the production of energy. Even destructive weapons serve the laudable goal of preserving liberty; intellect flourishes in freedom, while thuggery is the province of the dull. And given the fact that we are in technological competition with non- democratic regimes, turning back from the quest for more knowledge of this practical kind is just not an option. We can't let Kim Jong-Un catch up with us, so we can't stand still. John Savard |
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"oriel36" wrote in message
... On Dec 27, 8:26 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 5:30 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" wrote in message .... On Dec 27, 4:23 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" wrote in message .... On Dec 27, 12:51 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" wrote in message ... This not invite responses from thugs and science fiction fans,it is a highly technical topic that is within the vernacular of the interested adult and it represent the single most important topic in science as engineers try to justify the abolition of an already unjustifiable 'leap second' and the right ascension reasoning from which it emerged. Most here have staked their reputations on promoting the 'solar vs sidereal' nonsense ================================================== == You need not worry about staking YOUR reputation, thug. "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of a crank. Nobody "promotes" the simple fact of sidereal time understood by everybody except you, facts do not need promoting. Trying to play a Usenet thug among your own in sci.relativity might work there but this is saa ================================================== ===== "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of a lunatic. Nobody here (saa) is fooled by you calling a simple fact "junk", lunatic, many here (saa) have clock driven telescope mounts that are not junk, they operate on sidereal time and turn the telescope 361 degrees in 24 hours because the Earth turns 361 degrees in 24 hours, which they understand and you don't. The now bypassed 'solar vs sidereal' nonsense ============================================= "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of spewing nonsense. Nobody here (saa) is fooled by you calling a simple fact "nonsense", lunatic, many here (saa) have clock driven telescope mounts that are not nonsense, they operate on sidereal time and turn the telescope 361 degrees in 24 hours because the Earth turns 361 degrees in 24 hours, which they understand and you don't. Most ignore you completely. I should too, but as you are a bullying thug I'll go toe to toe with you and slap you hard. You need not worry about staking YOUR reputation, vicious nonsensical thug. -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. When I get my O.B.E. I'll be an earlobe. You are fine =========================== Yes, I am, but YOU are a moronic thug with the well-deserved reputation of an idiot. Many here (saa) have clock driven telescope mounts that operate on sidereal time and turn the telescope 361 degrees in 24 hours because the Earth turns 361 degrees in 24 hours. Their clock driven telescopes turn about their own homocentric axis which require no meridian lines to set up and do not imitate the Lat/ Long system which contains the information of latitudinal rotational speeds for each location North or South of the maximum equatorial speed.They turn at their own clockwork speed based on the average 24 hour day within the confines of the 365 day/366 day system which diverges from the natural system of 365 1/4 rotations per annual circuit. None of you believe in good nor evil, ================================================== = Amateur clock driven telescope mounts turn the telescope at a rate of 361 degrees in 24 hours, 15.042 degrees/hour, 15.042 arc minutes/minute, 15.042 arc seconds/second, 366.256 sidereal days per year to a precision of 3 decimal places, without any irrelevant latitude or longitude information needed by the clock drive. Professionals use a higher precision, taking into account 366.256 days (one year) in 360 degrees or 1.0737 degrees per day. Any amateur who lurked on this thread and taking a long exposure timed photograph (which could last several hours) of the stars with a home-made telescope and clock drive would get a blurred image if they were talked into wasting their time and money using a 15 degrees/hour clock drive recommended by that evil bullying thug Kelleher. I believe in good and evil. I am a good and truthful engineer even if I swear at evil lying thugs who deliberately attempt to mislead amateur astronomers. Fortunately there are enough of us to let any novice know you are completely crazy. Unlike hypocritical Quadiblockhead who wants to be polite, I tell you the truth as it really is. YOU ARE EVIL. -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. When I get my O.B.E. I'll be an earlobe. |
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On Dec 27, 5:18*pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
wrote: Unlike hypocritical Quadiblockhead who wants to be polite, I tell you the truth as it really is. YOU ARE EVIL. But then you're evil too, because you try to lead people away from the truth of Special Relativity as given to us by Einstein. I would prefer to think that like Oriel, you have good intentions - but are sadly mistaken about physics. John Savard |
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On Dec 28, 12:18*am, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
wrote: "oriel36" *wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 8:26 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" *wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 5:30 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" *wrote in message .... On Dec 27, 4:23 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" *wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 12:51 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" *wrote in message ... This not invite responses from thugs and science fiction fans,it is a highly technical topic that is within the vernacular of the interested adult and it represent the single most important topic in science as engineers try to justify the abolition of an already unjustifiable 'leap second' and the right ascension reasoning from which it emerged. Most here have staked their reputations on promoting the 'solar vs sidereal' nonsense ================================================== == You need not worry about staking YOUR reputation, thug. "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of a crank. Nobody "promotes" the simple fact of sidereal time understood by everybody except you, facts do not need promoting. Trying to play a Usenet thug among your own in sci.relativity might work there but this is saa ================================================== ===== "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of a lunatic. Nobody here (saa) is fooled by you calling a simple fact "junk", lunatic, many here (saa) *have clock driven telescope mounts that are not junk, they operate on sidereal time and turn the telescope 361 degrees in 24 hours because the Earth turns 361 degrees in 24 hours, which they understand and you don't. The *now bypassed 'solar vs sidereal' nonsense ============================================= "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of spewing nonsense. Nobody here (saa) is fooled by you calling a simple fact "nonsense", lunatic, many here (saa) *have clock driven telescope mounts that are not nonsense, they operate on sidereal time and turn the telescope 361 degrees in 24 hours because the Earth turns 361 degrees in 24 hours, which they understand and you don't. Most ignore you completely. I should too, but as you are a bullying thug I'll go toe to toe with you and slap you hard.. You need not worry about staking YOUR reputation, vicious nonsensical thug. -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. When I get my O.B.E. I'll be an earlobe. You are fine =========================== Yes, I am, but YOU are a moronic thug with the well-deserved reputation of an idiot. Many here (saa) *have clock driven telescope mounts that operate on sidereal time and turn the telescope 361 degrees in 24 hours because the Earth turns 361 degrees in 24 hours. Their clock driven telescopes turn about their own homocentric axis which require no meridian lines to set up and do not imitate the Lat/ Long system which contains the information of latitudinal rotational speeds for each location North or South of the maximum equatorial speed.They turn at their own clockwork speed based on the average 24 hour day within the confines of the 365 day/366 day system which diverges from the natural system of 365 1/4 rotations per annual circuit. None of you believe in good nor evil, ================================================== = Amateur clock driven telescope mounts turn the telescope at a rate of 361 degrees in 24 hours, 15.042 degrees/hour, 15.042 arc minutes/minute, 15.042 arc seconds/second, *366.256 sidereal days per year to a precision of 3 decimal places, without any irrelevant latitude or longitude information needed by the clock drive. You just read John Harrison who has explained to you how the Lat/Long system works in tandem with the 24 hour AM/PM cycle where 15 degrees of rotation at the equator corresponds to 1037.5 miles hence the planet turns its full 24901 mile circumference in 24 hours and it as though he said nothing at all.There is no such thing as 361 degrees,the 24 hour cycles keep in step with all the effects of a single rotation,February 29th is one day and one rotation that closes out the proportion of days/rotations to orbital circuits and you still lunge at meaningless decimal places as though they were going to save you and your kind. I see the 'clear skies' participants here and their homocentric view of above/below where the Universe turns in a celestial sphere diorama,they are perfectly entitled to this view for recreation purposes but going a step too far by assigning dynamical cause to this stellar circumpolar motion,in their laziness they not only lose the ability to connect planetary dynamics with terrestrial effects,they lose the ability to reason altogether. Professionals use a higher precision, taking into account 366.256 days (one year) in 360 degrees or 1.0737 degrees per day. They are professional empiricists,not astronomers as they have no authority to assert 1465 rotations in 1461 days nor contend with the historical and technical details which tie the 24 hour AM/PM system to the Lat/Long system through the calendar cycle.They got it wrong in the late 17th century, tied everyone to their mistake and today's bunch would expand the mistake further by creating a new story around rotation once in 24 hours.It is fraud at the expense of human achievement and it must stop. Any amateur who lurked on this thread and taking a long exposure timed photograph (which could last several hours) of the stars with a home-made telescope and clock drive would get a blurred image if they were talked into wasting their time and money using a 15 degrees/hour clock drive recommended by that evil bullying thug Kelleher. You are all bound together by the same error and I do not fault you for the inability to reason yourselves out of it even though it is easy enough as you will wake to another 24 hour day and another rotation of the planet.The true amateur with a love of astronomy will first reason out how the annual return of Sirius and the daily return of our central Sun constitute the fundamentals of timekeeping as to keep rotations fixed to the orbital points of solstices and equinoxes,the planet does not turn a consistent 365 times for an annual circuit but turns 365 1/4 times - the Egyptians spotted this in that after every 4 cycles,it took Sirius an extra day to show up. I believe in good and evil. I am a good and truthful engineer even if I swear at evil lying thugs who deliberately attempt to mislead amateur astronomers. Listen to yourself now,you are an engineer trying to play an astronomer with predictable results and that makes you a pure nuisance - your silly celestial mechanics or the clockwork solar system cobbled together from the predictive convenience of Ra/Dec is mindnumbingly sterile as it tries to sever the connection between astronomical cause and terrestrial effects via the planetary cycles.The fact is that the 'new' story of perfect 24 hour rotation in 1820 tries to bypass the old empirical dinosaurs like yourself and that is it,you have served your cult admirably and now you have no more relevance by supporting an old 'solar vs sidereal' story that has gone past its shelf life - "At the time of the dinosaurs, Earth completed one rotation in about 23 hours," says MacMillan, who is a member of the VLBI team at NASA Goddard. "In the year 1820, a rotation took exactly 24 hours, or 86,400 standard seconds. Since 1820, the mean solar day has increased by about 2.5 milliseconds." NASA Fortunately there are enough of us to let any novice know you are completely crazy. Unlike hypocritical Quadiblockhead who wants to be polite, I tell you the truth as it really is. YOU ARE EVIL. There is something regal in the story of John Harrison and King George against the same dismal crowd to which you belong ,the same miserable hatred against advancement including the engineering marvel of a watch designed around the 24 hour AM/PM system and the Lat/Long system - "Now, in the former part of this book, I have treated about matters pertaining to the strictness of measuring time; and have shewn the deficiencies of such means as Mr. Graham had taken or made use of for that purpose; and I have also treated of the improper, troublesome, erroneous - tedious method, which the professors at Cambridge and Oxford would have to be for the longitude at sea:" " But indeed, had I continued under the hands of the rude commissioners, this completion, or great accomplishment, neither would, nor could, ever have been obtained; but however, providence otherwise ordered the matter, and I can now boldly say, that if the provision for the heat and cold could properly be in the balance itself, as it is in the pendulum, the watch [or my longitude time- keeper] would then perform to a few seconds in a year, yea, to such perfection now are imaginary impossibilities conquered; so the priests at Cambridge and Oxford, &c. may cease their pursuit in the longitude affair, and as otherwise then to occupy their time." John Harrison Call yourself an engineer ?- more like a lout who detest the engineering achievement that is a precision watch let alone the astronomical principles to which that precision is set by the cycles of the Earth. -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. Lord indeed !,there are people here who call themselves doctorates and have the same relevance as your lordship but at least they get paid for it. |
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"Quadibloc" wrote in message
... On Dec 27, 5:18 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: Unlike hypocritical Quadiblockhead who wants to be polite, I tell you the truth as it really is. YOU ARE EVIL. But then you're evil too, because you try to lead people away from the truth of Special Relativity as given to us by Einstein. I would prefer to think that like Oriel, you have good intentions - but are sadly mistaken about physics. John Savard ================================================== == I'd prefer you to think, too, but I have little hope of you being capable of a task of such enormous magnitude. You may be polite, but you are a fool and a bigot. Unlike Kelleher I focus in on each of Einstein's blunders, without obfuscation, and I am willing to discuss any point you raise, but you refuse to listen and trust Einstein because the other sheep do. That's not science, that's religion. You're evil too, because you try to lead people away from the truth of Galilean Physics as given to us by the Holy Prophets Kepler, Newton, Doppler, Faraday and Michelson. Why am I evil for pointing out Einstein's mathematical blunders? -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. When I get my O.B.E. I'll be an earlobe. |
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Leap second proposal
"oriel36" wrote in message
... On Dec 28, 12:18 am, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 8:26 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 5:30 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" wrote in message .... On Dec 27, 4:23 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" wrote in message .... On Dec 27, 12:51 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway" wrote: "oriel36" wrote in message ... This not invite responses from thugs and science fiction fans,it is a highly technical topic that is within the vernacular of the interested adult and it represent the single most important topic in science as engineers try to justify the abolition of an already unjustifiable 'leap second' and the right ascension reasoning from which it emerged. Most here have staked their reputations on promoting the 'solar vs sidereal' nonsense ================================================== == You need not worry about staking YOUR reputation, thug. "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of a crank. Nobody "promotes" the simple fact of sidereal time understood by everybody except you, facts do not need promoting. Trying to play a Usenet thug among your own in sci.relativity might work there but this is saa ================================================== ===== "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of a lunatic. Nobody here (saa) is fooled by you calling a simple fact "junk", lunatic, many here (saa) have clock driven telescope mounts that are not junk, they operate on sidereal time and turn the telescope 361 degrees in 24 hours because the Earth turns 361 degrees in 24 hours, which they understand and you don't. The now bypassed 'solar vs sidereal' nonsense ============================================= "Most here" (everybody) knows your reputation is one of spewing nonsense. Nobody here (saa) is fooled by you calling a simple fact "nonsense", lunatic, many here (saa) have clock driven telescope mounts that are not nonsense, they operate on sidereal time and turn the telescope 361 degrees in 24 hours because the Earth turns 361 degrees in 24 hours, which they understand and you don't. Most ignore you completely. I should too, but as you are a bullying thug I'll go toe to toe with you and slap you hard. You need not worry about staking YOUR reputation, vicious nonsensical thug. -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. When I get my O.B.E. I'll be an earlobe. You are fine =========================== Yes, I am, but YOU are a moronic thug with the well-deserved reputation of an idiot. Many here (saa) have clock driven telescope mounts that operate on sidereal time and turn the telescope 361 degrees in 24 hours because the Earth turns 361 degrees in 24 hours. Their clock driven telescopes turn about their own homocentric axis which require no meridian lines to set up and do not imitate the Lat/ Long system which contains the information of latitudinal rotational speeds for each location North or South of the maximum equatorial speed.They turn at their own clockwork speed based on the average 24 hour day within the confines of the 365 day/366 day system which diverges from the natural system of 365 1/4 rotations per annual circuit. None of you believe in good nor evil, ================================================== = Amateur clock driven telescope mounts turn the telescope at a rate of 361 degrees in 24 hours, 15.042 degrees/hour, 15.042 arc minutes/minute, 15.042 arc seconds/second, 366.256 sidereal days per year to a precision of 3 decimal places, without any irrelevant latitude or longitude information needed by the clock drive. You just read John Harrison ================ You are an evil LIAR, I did no such thing. Amateur clock driven telescope mounts turn the telescope at a rate of 361 degrees in 24 hours, 15.042 degrees/hour, 15.042 arc minutes/minute, 15.042 arc seconds/second, 366.256 sidereal days per year to a precision of 3 decimal places, without any irrelevant latitude or longitude information needed by the clock drive. Professionals use a higher precision, taking into account 366.256 days (one year) in 360 degrees or 1.0737 degrees per day. Any amateur who lurked on this thread and taking a long exposure timed photograph (which could last several hours) of the stars with a home-made telescope and clock drive would get a blurred image if they were talked into wasting their time and money using a 15 degrees/hour clock drive recommended by that evil bullying thug Kelleher. I believe in good and evil. I am a good and truthful engineer even if I swear at evil lying thugs who deliberately attempt to mislead amateur astronomers. Fortunately there are enough of us to let any novice know you are completely crazy. Unlike hypocritical Quadiblockhead who wants to be polite, I tell you the truth as it really is. YOU ARE EVIL. -- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway. When I get my O.B.E. I'll be an earlobe. |
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