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Old November 11th 04, 11:49 PM
Wally Anglesea
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http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/
not bad at all.




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Old November 12th 04, 10:34 AM
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Wally Anglesea wrote:
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/
not bad at all.


It's nice - good to know that there are other people thinking
about CMEs in three dimensions (paper going off to Annales
Geophys. real soon now..). This analysis seems to make the
same assumption as we do - that the event is axisymmetric
and propagating radially. They don't, of course, and they
may not be axisymmetric, but until STEREO starts doing its
stuff it's hard to see how we'll do much better with this
kind of approach. The stuff that Bernie Jackson is doing,
however..

http://cassfos02.ucsd.edu/solar/forecast/index.html

Now _that_'s real 3D

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Old November 24th 04, 08:42 AM
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"Wally Anglesea" wrote...
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http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/
not bad at all.


I don't understand. Why do the CMEs sort of "lean"
toward the SOHO?

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Old November 24th 04, 08:57 AM
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http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/
not bad at all.


I don't understand. Why do the CMEs sort of "lean"
toward the SOHO?


An artefact of the rendering, perhaps?


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Old November 24th 04, 10:06 AM
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"Wally Anglesea" wrote...
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"Wally Anglesea" wrote...
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http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/
not bad at all.


I don't understand. Why do the CMEs sort of "lean"
toward the SOHO?


An artefact of the rendering, perhaps?


I see... so the 3D rendering is not a true picture of what the
CMEs are doing or of where they are going?

Pretty, but rather useless?

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Lessons of time
in the presents of rhymes...
The essence of time
is the presence of primes.

Indelibly yours,
Paine http://www.painellsworth.net


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Old November 25th 04, 11:09 PM
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http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/
not bad at all.

I don't understand. Why do the CMEs sort of "lean"
toward the SOHO?


An artefact of the rendering, perhaps?


I see... so the 3D rendering is not a true picture of what the
CMEs are doing or of where they are going?

Pretty, but rather useless?

happy days and...
starry starry nights!


I don't understand what you mean by "leaning toward" us. Aren't we
seeing something coming directly toward us - the base of the
"light-bulb" in the 2002-02-26 image?
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Old November 27th 04, 09:07 AM
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"Wally Anglesea" wrote...
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http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/
not bad at all.

I don't understand. Why do the CMEs sort of "lean"
toward the SOHO?

An artefact of the rendering, perhaps?


I see... so the 3D rendering is not a true picture of what the
CMEs are doing or of where they are going?

Pretty, but rather useless?

happy days and...
starry starry nights!


I don't understand what you mean by "leaning toward" us. Aren't we
seeing something coming directly toward us - the base of the
"light-bulb" in the 2002-02-26 image?
--
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'Lo Jonathan --

The first part shows the CMEs 2-dimensionally radiating out
from the Sun. Then as the image turns, we start to see the
nonsymmetrical nature of the image, i.e., the CMEs radiate
outwardly still, but at a definite angle in the direction of the
SOHO's position. And i was asking if this was actually
happening and why. However the angle appears to be the
result of the way the image was constructed rather than the
actual CME radiations.

In other words, a true 3D representation might show more
CMEs shooting out from more positions on the Sun, and
they would be moreso on radial pathways rather than on
paths distorted by our perspective.

Just tells me that we must be very careful when judging what
we see out there, not just what we see from Earth, but also
what our instruments outside our atmosphere show us. We
must wonder what these CMEs might look like from Venus,
from Mercury, from all perspectives in order to get a true
picture.

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

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All the stars, all the cosmos
For what it really is--
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Indelibly yours,
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