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Old July 13th 12, 07:50 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
Koobee Wublee
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On Jul 13, 9:48 am, Big Dog wrote:
On 7/13/2012 11:14 AM, Koobee Wublee wrote:
On Jul 13, 7:02 am, Tom Roberts wrote:


These measurements are accurate enough that they have excluded
any and all theories proposed so far, except those that are
experimentally indistinguishable from SR.


http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...periments.html


Why are you [Tom Roberts still] peddling this [same old] tripe?


There are an infinite such mathematical models besides SR (namely the
Lorentz transform) that also satisfy any of the experiments you can
point out. Except that these models supports the absolute frame of
reference which means the AETHER MUST EXIST. SR, on the other hand,
says the Aether even if exist cannot be detected. So, basically these
experiments have absolutely no values in deciding if SR is valid or
not. shrug


Even PD and many other self-styled physicists have now acknowledged
that there are indeed such infinite numbers of mathematical models
that satisfy these experiments including the null results of the MMX.
Why is Tom Robert continuing to sell snake oil? It is wrong. It is
immoral. It has no scientific values. shrug


Name four such mathematical models besides SR that also satisfy ALL of
the experiments listed in the link, and show that the results are
consistent with three of them. What you say is flat ****ing bull****,
and you ****ing know it. Shruggetyshruggetyshrugshrug


Take a look at Lorentz’s work in 1904 below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...ransformations

There are an infinite numbers of them. What Larmor has discovered was
just one out of these infinite numbers. All of these including
Larmor’s transform satisfy the null results of the MMX. However, they
all support the absolute frame of reference which means THE AETHER
MUST EXIST. They also mean the principle of relativity is not valid
in general. shrug

Bull****ting for the sake of bull****ting is an exercise for ****ing
idiots and ****ing children.


Koobee Wublee never bluffs, bull****s, or lies unlike you, Einstein
Dingleberries, and self-styled physicists where the following
definitively sum up Einstein Dingleberries. shrug

** FAITH IS LOGIC
** LYING IS TEACHING
** NITWIT IS GENIUS
** OCCULT IS SCIENCE
** FICTION IS THEORY
** PARADOX IS KOSHER
** FUDGING IS DERIVATION
** BULL**** IS TRUTH
** MYSTICISM IS WISDOM
** BELIEVING IS LEARNING
** IGNORANCE IS KNOWLEDGE
** PRIESTHOOD IS TENURE
** CONJECTURE IS REALITY
** HANDWAVING IS REASONING
** PLAGIARISM IS CREATIVITY
** FRAUDULENCE IS FACT
** MATHEMAGICS IS MATHEMATICS
** INCONSISTENCY IS CONSISTENCY
** INTERPRETATION IS VERIFICATION

shrug
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Old July 14th 12, 12:12 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
Tonico
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On Jul 13, 9:50*pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:
On Jul 13, 9:48 am, Big Dog wrote:





On 7/13/2012 11:14 AM, Koobee Wublee wrote:
On Jul 13, 7:02 am, Tom Roberts wrote:
These measurements are accurate enough that they have excluded
any and all theories proposed so far, except those that are
experimentally indistinguishable from SR.


http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...periments.html


Why are you [Tom Roberts still] peddling this [same old] tripe?


There are an infinite such mathematical models besides SR (namely the
Lorentz transform) that also satisfy any of the experiments you can
point out. *Except that these models supports the absolute frame of
reference which means the AETHER MUST EXIST. *SR, on the other hand,
says the Aether even if exist cannot be detected. *So, basically these
experiments have absolutely no values in deciding if SR is valid or
not. *shrug


Even PD and many other self-styled physicists have now acknowledged
that there are indeed such infinite numbers of mathematical models
that satisfy these experiments including the null results of the MMX.
Why is Tom Robert continuing to sell snake oil? *It is wrong. *It is
immoral. *It has no scientific values. *shrug


Name four such mathematical models besides SR that also satisfy ALL of
the experiments listed in the link, and show that the results are
consistent with three of them. What you say is flat ****ing bull****,
and you ****ing know it. Shruggetyshruggetyshrugshrug


Take a look at Lorentz’s work in 1904 below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...ransformations

There are an infinite numbers of them. *What Larmor has discovered was
just one out of these infinite numbers. *All of these including
Larmor’s transform satisfy the null results of the MMX. *However, they
all support the absolute frame of reference which means THE AETHER
MUST EXIST. *They also mean the principle of relativity is not valid
in general. *shrug

Bull****ting for the sake of bull****ting is an exercise for ****ing
idiots and ****ing children.


Koobee Wublee never bluffs, bull****s, or lies unlike you, Einstein
Dingleberries, and self-styled physicists where the following
definitively sum up Einstein Dingleberries. *shrug

** * * * * *FAITH IS LOGIC
** * * * * *LYING IS TEACHING
** * * * * NITWIT IS GENIUS
** * * * * OCCULT IS SCIENCE
** * * * *FICTION IS THEORY
** * * * *PARADOX IS KOSHER
** * * * *FUDGING IS DERIVATION
** * * * BULL**** IS TRUTH
** * * *MYSTICISM IS WISDOM
** * * *BELIEVING IS LEARNING
** * * *IGNORANCE IS KNOWLEDGE
** * * PRIESTHOOD IS TENURE
** * * CONJECTURE IS REALITY
** * * HANDWAVING IS REASONING
** * * PLAGIARISM IS CREATIVITY
** * *FRAUDULENCE IS FACT
** * *MATHEMAGICS IS MATHEMATICS
** *INCONSISTENCY IS CONSISTENCY
** INTERPRETATION IS VERIFICATION

shrug-



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