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Old February 9th 13, 06:32 PM posted to sci.astro
Tyler Dresden
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On Feb 9, 8:53*am, "Bast" wrote:
Brad Guth wrote:
An EH(event horizon) sphere of 1 ly diameter and having a shell
thickness of .0001 ly (9.4605e8 km) offers a thin shell volume of
2.666e44 m3


It really doesn’t take all that much math in order to establish that a
EH thin shell comprised of 1g/cm3 density would amount to 2.666e47 kg,
giving a surface escape velocity demand of 8.674e7 km/sec or 289 times
faster than the speed of light, and that’s if the entire internal
volume of this EH sphere were absolutely devoid of any other mass. *If
this same thin EH shell was instead comprised of a superfluid of solid
helium at .214 g/cm3 would still easily provide more than sufficient
mass of 5.7e43 kg, so that its escape velocity of 4.01e7 km/sec at the
EH surface of solid helium is offering 134 times greater than the
speed of light.


So, where’s the need of any solid BH body of mass?


Why not permit hollow and empty EH spheres to exist?


*http://www.1728.org/diam.htm


*http://www.calctool.org/CALC/phys/as...scape_velocity


*Of course once inside of this extremely thin EH shell is going to
represent zero gravity regardless of the EH shell density and its
mass, offering a light year diameter sphere of containing whatever.


Changing the EH shell diameter and its thickness to suit whatever you
like, and run the math through these same online calculators in order
to test out your ideas as to what a hollow BH could have to offer.
Filling this hollow BH with weird aether or whatever else you can
think of, as such will only add to the escape velocity, such as
including an enormous solar system of 2e31 kg is literally adding a
mere drop to this enormous bucket of mass.


You don't even need math to understand that a visible event horizion of any
size, surrounding only a singularity of infinitely small mass and size

...You have a hollow sphere of nothingness.


This hollow volume of the sphere is illusory.
inside this sphere you speak of, space would be contracting faster
than the speed of light.

Singularity Plus Gravity turns into "Length"

"Length" plus "Rotation" turns into "surface area", or one radian of
length times one radian of rotation = c squared

Surface area turns into "Volume"
Volume turns into "Space time"

Hollow sphere of 'VACUUM ENERGY" = Space is energy. rotation is
energy







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Old February 9th 13, 06:33 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.physics,sci.astro,misc.education.science,alt.journalism
Tyler Dresden
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Default How solid or hollow is a BH(black hole)?

On Feb 8, 9:34*am, Brad Guth wrote:
On Feb 8, 5:55*am, "G=EMC^2" wrote:









On Feb 7, 8:30*am, "G=EMC^2" wrote:


On Feb 6, 6:13*pm, Brad Guth wrote:


On Feb 6, 6:27*am, Brad Guth wrote:


An EH(event horizon) sphere of 1 ly diameter and having a shell
thickness of .0001 ly (9.4605e8 km) offers a thin shell volume of
2.666e44 m3


It really doesn’t take all that much math in order to establish that a
EH thin shell comprised of 1g/cm3 density would amount to 2.666e47 kg,
giving a surface escape velocity demand of 8.674e7 km/sec or 289 times
faster than the speed of light, and that’s if the entire internal
volume of this EH sphere were absolutely devoid of any other mass.. *If
this same thin EH shell was instead comprised of a superfluid of solid
helium at .214 g/cm3 would still easily provide more than sufficient
mass of 5.7e46 kg, so that its escape velocity of 4.01e7 km/sec at the
EH surface of solid helium is offering 134 times greater than the
speed of light.


So, where’s the need of any solid BH body of mass?


Why not permit hollow and empty EH spheres to exist?


*http://www.1728.org/diam.htm


*http://www.calctool.org/CALC/phys/as...scape_velocity


*Of course once inside of this extremely thin EH shell is going to
represent zero gravity regardless of the EH shell density and its
mass, offering a light year diameter sphere of containing whatever.

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Old February 10th 13, 12:38 AM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.physics,sci.astro,misc.education.science,alt.journalism
Brad Guth[_3_]
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Default How solid or hollow is a BH(black hole)?

On Feb 9, 6:53*am, "Bast" wrote:
Brad Guth wrote:
An EH(event horizon) sphere of 1 ly diameter and having a shell
thickness of .0001 ly (9.4605e8 km) offers a thin shell volume of
2.666e44 m3


It really doesn’t take all that much math in order to establish that a
EH thin shell comprised of 1g/cm3 density would amount to 2.666e47 kg,
giving a surface escape velocity demand of 8.674e7 km/sec or 289 times
faster than the speed of light, and that’s if the entire internal
volume of this EH sphere were absolutely devoid of any other mass. *If
this same thin EH shell was instead comprised of a superfluid of solid
helium at .214 g/cm3 would still easily provide more than sufficient
mass of 5.7e43 kg, so that its escape velocity of 4.01e7 km/sec at the
EH surface of solid helium is offering 134 times greater than the
speed of light.


So, where’s the need of any solid BH body of mass?


Why not permit hollow and empty EH spheres to exist?


*http://www.1728.org/diam.htm


*http://www.calctool.org/CALC/phys/as...scape_velocity


*Of course once inside of this extremely thin EH shell is going to
represent zero gravity regardless of the EH shell density and its
mass, offering a light year diameter sphere of containing whatever.


Changing the EH shell diameter and its thickness to suit whatever you
like, and run the math through these same online calculators in order
to test out your ideas as to what a hollow BH could have to offer.
Filling this hollow BH with weird aether or whatever else you can
think of, as such will only add to the escape velocity, such as
including an enormous solar system of 2e31 kg is literally adding a
mere drop to this enormous bucket of mass.


You don't even need math to understand that a visible event horizion of any
size, surrounding only a singularity of infinitely small mass and size

...You have a hollow sphere of nothingness.


Exactly, and everything inside of that EH sphere of nothingness has to
be a volume of zero gravity, as possibly filled with a great deal of
aether.
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Old February 16th 13, 05:52 PM posted to sci.astro
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On Feb 6, 8:19*am, dlzc wrote:
Dear Brad Guth:

On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 6:49:12 AM UTC-7, Brad Guth wrote:

...

An EH(event horizon) sphere of 1 ly diameter and
having a shell thickness of


Nothing finite can stop infalling matter, at the event horizon. *Within the event horizon, is not truly part of this Universe any longer.

David A. Smith


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXT_B4kx6YA

http://www.crystalinks.com/meteors.html

Nice Premonition Mr David
  #45  
Old February 17th 13, 02:20 AM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.physics,sci.astro,misc.education.science,alt.journalism
Brad Guth[_3_]
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Default How solid or hollow is a BH(black hole)?

On Feb 6, 5:49*am, Brad Guth wrote:
An EH(event horizon) sphere of 1 ly diameter and having a shell
thickness of .0001 ly (9.4605e8 km) offers a thin shell volume of
2.666e44 m3

It really doesn’t take all that much math in order to establish that a
EH thin shell comprised of 1g/cm3 density would amount to 2.666e47 kg,
giving a surface escape velocity demand of 8.674e7 km/sec or 289 times
faster than the speed of light, and that’s if the entire internal
volume of this EH sphere were absolutely devoid of any other mass. *If
this same thin EH shell was instead comprised of a superfluid of solid
helium at .214 g/cm3 would still easily provide more than sufficient
mass of 5.7e43 kg, so that its escape velocity of 4.01e7 km/sec at the
EH surface of solid helium is offering 134 times greater than the
speed of light.

So, where’s the need of any solid BH body of mass?

Why not permit hollow and empty EH spheres to exist?

*http://www.1728.org/diam.htm

*http://www.calctool.org/CALC/phys/as...scape_velocity

*Of course once inside of this extremely thin EH shell is going to
represent zero gravity regardless of the EH shell density and its
mass, offering a light year diameter sphere of containing whatever.

Changing the EH shell diameter and its thickness to suit whatever you
like, and run the math through these same online calculators in order
to test out your ideas as to what a hollow BH could have to offer.
Filling this hollow BH with weird aether or whatever else you can
think of, as such will only add to the escape velocity, such as
including an enormous solar system of 2e31 kg is literally adding a
mere drop to this enormous bucket of mass.


How can anything get past the event horizon in order to fill up or
contribute as to the innards or core volume and mass of any black
hole?

Why wouldn't the EH shell itself become massive, with zero gravity
inside of this EH shell?
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Old February 17th 13, 05:29 PM posted to sci.astro
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Dear Brad Guth:

On Saturday, February 16, 2013 6:20:42 PM UTC-7, Brad Guth wrote:
....
How can anything get past the event horizon
in order to fill up or contribute as to the
innards or core volume and mass of any black
hole?


Nothing is at rest there. How can you stop time?

Why wouldn't the EH shell itself become
massive, with zero gravity inside of this EH
shell?


No finite force could keep something there.

David A. Smith
 




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