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Dark Halo Around Our Galaxy Looks Like Squished Beach Ball
dlzc wrote:
[...] Actually, Eric Gisse just said that it's known that the dark matter halos of other galaxies isn't spherical either, He's wrong. (For once.) Wow, I'm surprised. I might be mixing what I read yesterday about simulations of galaxies that have non-spherically symmetric profiles but I could have sworn I have read about there being an observed flatness in dark matter halos. I figured the best studied example would be our friend M31 - Andromeda - but apparently spherical symmetry won that battle. http://arxiv.org/abs/0707.4374 I wonder how the success of spherical symmetry (the NFW model, etc) has to do with the fact that we only have visible what is projected upon our line of sight. [...] |
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Dear eric gisse:
On Jan 9, 1:35*pm, eric gisse wrote: dlzc wrote: [...] Actually, Eric Gisse just said that it's known that the dark matter halos of other galaxies isn't spherical either, He's wrong. *(For once.) Wow, I'm surprised. I might be mixing what I read yesterday about simulations of galaxies that have non-spherically symmetric profiles but I could have sworn I have read about there being an observed flatness in dark matter halos. Yes. And in Andromeda too. I figured the best studied example would be our friend M31 - Andromeda - but apparently spherical symmetry won that battle. http://arxiv.org/abs/0707.4374 I don't see them saying that. More to the point, does only "Dark Matter as stuff" permit spiral galaxies to have different shape DM halos? I don't see MOND being able to do that, and my favorite, the BHs at the center core form the halo is looking a bit weak. I wonder how the success of spherical symmetry (the NFW model, etc) has to do with the fact that we only have visible what is projected upon our line of sight. [...] David A. Smith |
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Dark Halo Around Our Galaxy Looks Like Squished Beach Ball
Dear Yousuf Khan:
On Jan 9, 12:50*pm, Yousuf Khan wrote: On Jan 9, 8:46 am, Yousuf Khan wrote: .... But I think you're probably not even thinking of that kind of a merger. *You're probably thinking of two galaxies whose disks are aligned and are landing on top of each other like a couple of flying saucers? Not with the shape of the DM halo. *At one angle, they'd look like a plus sign, or an X. Oh! Well, in that case we'd have seen more massive disruption in our galactic shape right now. Not if the "right angle" galaxy merged a few billion years ago... Another thought, there's recent thought that our galaxy is a barred spiral, whereas Andromeda is a standard spiral. Perhaps the bar in the galactic bulge creates a denser core? Maybe. We really don't know what "80%" of our galaxy looks like. David A. Smith |
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dlzc wrote:
On Jan 9, 12:50 pm, Yousuf Khan wrote: Another thought, there's recent thought that our galaxy is a barred spiral, whereas Andromeda is a standard spiral. Perhaps the bar in the galactic bulge creates a denser core? Maybe. We really don't know what "80%" of our galaxy looks like. David A. Smith It would've been easier if our solar system was sitting out in the halo itself. What's the density of stars out in the halo? Since here in the disk, we don't see another star for 4 light-years, how far would we have to go see another star (on average) in the halo? Yousuf Khan |
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Sam Wormley wrote:
On 1/9/10 10:15 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote: In case you haven't noticed, I have rejected your standard template. Yousuf Khan Because you like to cling to MOND that fails where GTR succeeds? Maybe it's time you got some new material. Yousuf Khan |
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On 1/10/10 12:29 PM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote: On 1/9/10 10:15 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote: In case you haven't noticed, I have rejected your standard template. Yousuf Khan Because you like to cling to MOND that fails where GTR succeeds? Maybe it's time you got some new material. Yousuf Khan Have you found an observation that contradicts a prediction of general relativity? |
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On Jan 8, 9:02*am, Yousuf Khan wrote:
Of course, not mentioned in the article is the fact that this shape of "dark matter halo" matches the configuration one might see with MOND. * * * * Yousuf Khan +++ SPACE.com -- Dark Halo Around Our Galaxy Looks Like Squished Beach Ball "But the new study found that the Milky Way's halo isn't exactly spherical, but squished. In fact, its beach-ball form is flattened in a surprising direction — perpendicular to the galaxy's visible, pancake-shaped spiral disk."http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/100106-dark-matter-halo-milky-w... Energy comes alive from Ehrenfest contraction as energy bubbles. This energy is contracted horizontally in galaxies. |
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On Jan 13, 5:18*pm, gb wrote:
On Jan 8, 9:02*am, Yousuf Khan wrote: Of course, not mentioned in the article is the fact that this shape of "dark matter halo" matches the configuration one might see with MOND. * * * * Yousuf Khan +++ SPACE.com -- Dark Halo Around Our Galaxy Looks Like Squished Beach Ball "But the new study found that the Milky Way's halo isn't exactly spherical, but squished. In fact, its beach-ball form is flattened in a surprising direction — perpendicular to the galaxy's visible, pancake-shaped spiral disk."http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/100106-dark-matter-halo-milky-w... Energy comes alive from Ehrenfest contraction as energy bubbles. This energy is contracted horizontally in galaxies. Energy as a ball comes alive, contracted with Ehrenfest rotating disk paradox inward the spiral disk. As with a quantum particle, an energy ball which is product. There is no perfect ball shaped energy ball. The horizontal contraction of the ball determines the dual dark matter effect, one as contraction just in the disk, one as energy ball as energy that came alive taking shape of a ball. It is insane, MIND, mentally ill nuthouse department, mind. |
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