Line of sight

The emergence of Sirius from behind the glare of the central Sun due
to the orbital motion of the Earth is a simple line of sight argument
and it is being destroyed by putting Sirius in daily stellar
circumpolar motion.

It is that delicate observation of the appearance of Sirius that forms
the basis of the extra day added to 4 circuits of 365 days and it is
one of the few times when I have become unsteady knowing that readers
here would knowingly retain the stellar circumpolar view for the
purpose of upholding Ra/Dec reasoning.It is exceptionally cruel to
obscure the graceful way the appearance of Sirius affirms the orbital
motion of the Earth and it is wounding no end facing this week when
the parent observation of February 29th is a testament to that
observation.

On 2/26/12 4:01 PM, oriel36 wrote:
The emergence of Sirius from behind the glare of the central Sun due
to the orbital motion of the Earth is a simple line of sight argument
and it is being destroyed by putting Sirius in daily stellar
circumpolar motion.

If Sirius were circumpolar for a given observer, it would neither
rise nor set, but cross the observers local meridian twice a day!

On Feb 27, 1:54*am, Sam Wormley wrote:

* *If Sirius were circumpolar for a given observer, it would neither
* *rise nor set, but cross the observers local meridian twice a day!

When you glance upwards.. to find o'gob****e filling your entire sky..
do you wish he wasn't wearing pants? Which part of "circumpolar" do
you suppose we do not understand? Is this use of innuendo now part of
your public foreplay? Or are you merely the innocent victim of online
grooming by this priest?

On Feb 27, 12:54*am, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 2/26/12 4:01 PM, oriel36 wrote:

The emergence of Sirius from behind the glare of the central Sun due
to the orbital motion of the Earth is a simple line of sight argument
and it is being destroyed by putting Sirius in daily stellar
circumpolar motion.

* *If Sirius were circumpolar for a given observer, it would neither
* *rise nor set, but cross the observers local meridian twice a day!

It is such a wonderful thing to wake up one morning to find that the
Earth has moved around its orbital circumference far enough to bring
Sirius out of the glare of the central Sun as a distinct point of
light as opposed to tying everything in the celestial arena to stellar
circumpolar motion.It is this observation which serves as the
foundation for the completion of 4 orbital treks around the Sun that
began 4 years ago on March 1st 2008 and will end on Wednesday as the
proportion of 1461 rotations to 4 orbital circuits.I have no doubt
that readers know the difference by now and there is no need for them
to abandon either the forum or astronomy until astronomy is brought
back to a functioning state.

Feeling the way I do now it is better to say nothing other than there
is a goodness in people that would not allow things to fall too far
and begin the process of recovery.

On Feb 26, 3:01*pm, oriel36 wrote:
The emergence of Sirius from behind the glare of the central Sun due
to the orbital motion of the Earth is a simple line of sight argument
and it is being destroyed by putting Sirius in daily stellar
circumpolar motion.

It is true that the Earth's orbit around the Sun is the cause of the
illusion that the Sun orbits the Earth once a year. But what does the
Earth's rotation have to do with the Earth's orbit that referencing
that rotation to the stars, instead of the Sun, "destroys" the
illustration of that fact?

Often, as in this case, much that you post is not even comprehensible
to those of an empirical viewpoint.

John Savard

The line of sight observation as the Earth orbits the Sun and brings
Sirius into view after a few months lost in the glare of the central
Sun must bring some satisfaction to astronomers in affirming the
orbital motion of the Earth and there is nothing new about this other
than the obstacle of placing Sirius in daily stellar circumpolar
motion.There are any amount of articles on February 29th at the moment
yet none of them have that clear view of where the extra day comes
from,the reference of the orbital return of Sirius into view as the
disruptive Ra/Dec reasoning of 366 1/4 rotations per year shuts out
comprehension of the necessity of the extra day and extra 24 hours of
rotation.

There is a wonderful event out there in the celestial arena presently
where Jupiter and Venus occupy the same field of view yet people find
it exceptionally difficult to figure out that we are between those two
planets in our respective orbits,at least if they give it some thought
and more so with a whirling celestial sphere in the background.The
issue of Sirius is not to disprove anything but rather to put our own
orbital motion into perspective and work along those lines.

Those who pursue the empirical agenda have nothing to fear as there is
so much genuine work involved in evolutionary and dynamical processes
and they really don;t need the overreaching ideologies based on
trafficking in a rotating celestial sphere and besides,any interested
person or student could easily make sense of the reasoning which leads
to February 29th using the orbital motion of the Earth and the annual
return of Sirius.

On Feb 27, 7:45*am, oriel36 wrote:

... and there is nothing new about this other
than the obstacle of placing Sirius in daily stellar circumpolar
motion.

Your definition of 'circumpolar' is certainly different than which is
found in a dictionary. Another case of you simply re-defining things
to suit your fancy? Sirius is NOT circumpolar from your house.

There is a wonderful event out there in the celestial arena presently
where Jupiter and Venus occupy the same field of view yet people find
it exceptionally difficult to figure out that we are between those two
planets in our respective orbits

Just to be perfectly clear... right now the Earth is nowhere near to
being 'between' Jupiter and Venus. Sure, our 'orbit' lies between
them, but we are not 'there' now, we are 'here' well over to the side.
Look here...

http://www.haylinggraphics.co.uk/fla...em_orrery.html

On Feb 27, 9:32*am, palsing wrote:
On Feb 27, 7:45*am, oriel36 wrote:

... and there is nothing new about this other
than the obstacle of placing Sirius in daily stellar circumpolar
motion.

Your definition of 'circumpolar' is certainly different than which is
found in a dictionary. Another case of you simply re-defining things
to suit your fancy? Sirius is NOT circumpolar from your house.

Sirius is not close to the north celestial pole. But all the stars
seem to circle the poles in apparent motion; that's what he is
referring to.

John Savard

On Feb 27, 8:45*am, oriel36 wrote:

and they really don;t need the overreaching ideologies based on
trafficking in a rotating celestial sphere

I assure you, "empiricists" don't believe that the celestial sphere
rotates. They view it as stationary, with the Earth rotating.

John Savard