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Advanced versions of the V-2 rocket
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 00:54:48 -0500, Damon Hill
wrote: I've been checking out the scenery at r.a.m.; seems they have their share of mega-egos, and bat**** insane Nazi apologists too. I wonder how long even Pat's sense of humor will stand up over there? I think you've hammered Arndt's nail. ....Yeah, and I've sent him to Killfile Hell so he can play sodomy games with Guth and his ilk for eternity. Dip****s and ego trippers like Arndt are the kind of scum that tend to really ruin special historical interest groups, as they take on this faux superiority attitude to run off anyone else who might provide info that, in their own addled minds, should only be provided by themselves so they can have their egos masturbated by any accolades for the "assitance". Tom Galloway pulled that **** for years - and AFAIK he's still doing it - over on rec.arts.comics.*, and it ran off more posters than most trolls. ,,,Another sign of the "ego-tripping self-proclaimed net.god" is that they all love to name-drop in one form or another. Either it's some place they've been, or someone they've met, and they trump it up as if they're either half-owner of the location, or the best friend of whoever it was they most likely only saw in passing. And whether or not they're telling the truth is mox nix, as their bragging and excessive inflation of their sense of self-importance negates the importance, if not the validity of their experiences. ....Oh, and r.a.m. and rac* aren't the only ones that have been plagued with this sort of moron. .history had Dwayne "Do not cuss in my presence or I'll leave!" Day for a while, and we've still got Rand Simberg around here to two-line his way into everyone's killfiles. But right now we're talking about Rob Arndt and his unwarranted, unsolicited, unjustified, and totally bogus attack on Scott Lowther - someone who's got about two hundred metric tons more credibility than Arndt does when you get down to it. He's an "ego-tripping self-proclaimed net.god"; in fact, the bozo fits the description to a "T". Or is that a butt plug? OM -- ]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ |
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Advanced versions of the V-2 rocket
Dave Kearton wrote: That being so, it's still a matter of heat vs time. The railroad ties down here (we call them "sleepers") are made from a fairly dense hardwood - but will still burn if exposed to that amount of radiant heat for more than a short time. With at least 30 minutes to prepare a round for launch, it would give the tracks enough time to cool off between firings - and you can still move the launch car forward if it looks black 'n crispy. Hopefully it will get airborne and not blow on the rail car. I would have liked to have seen the Midway's wooden deck after a V2 was launched in '46. It looks like a metal deflector was used under the rocket, but there's still a lot of blast area that (I presume) was wooden. That launch scared the hell out of the Navy, because of how unstable the missile was as it ascended. Just to see what would happen, after that the Navy built a section of standard wooden aircraft carrier decking, sat a fully fueled V-2 on it, and blew it up. The result was one of the first nails in the coffin of launching liquid-fueled missiles from ships. Apparently wood burns very well indeed when doused in alchohol and LOX. Bye-bye Navy Jupiter from aircraft carriers. Pat |
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Rob Arndt Non Grata (Wuz: Advanced versions of the V-2 rocket)
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:45:57 -0500, Pat Flannery
wrote: Yeah, I went over to rec.aviation.military and ran into this whacko. But his website is something else, to put it mildly: http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/index.html ....Oh, *he's* the festering little neo-Nazi dickwad who was responsible for all those "Luftwaffe UFO" pages you sent me a while back, wasn't he? Granted, his Nutzi idols came up with some really wild concepts, but most of the ones he's babbled about have about as much validity as a Wikipedia article about beers brewed in Texas written by a pair of 15-year-old Limey schoolpunks. Normally, you'd have to eat a lot of funny mushrooms to come up with stuff like that. ....He's probably been IV'ing his own home brew. Whether it's Nyquil-deerived crystal meth, or just his own attempt at cheap beer, remains to be seen. OM -- ]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ |
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Advanced versions of the V-2 rocket
Rick Jones wrote: I guess then that the real risk was then to the trees and shrubs on either side of the tracks. Either you start a forrest fire on launch, or you have "open" enough tracks that some fighter jock in a P-47/P-51/Typhoon/whatnot spots you, swoops-in and ruins your whole day? That first picture seems to show some pretty broad "open space" on the far side of the rail car A V-2 didn't exactly "zip" off the pad did it? They started a lot of fires launching V-2s; one of the popular ways of hiding them during erection and fueling was to pull the tops of tall fir trees together with ropes over the top of the missile to hide it in a forest clearing, then snap them open just before launch. Pat |
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
... | | That launch scared the hell out of the Navy, because of how unstable the | missile was as it ascended. | Just to see what would happen, after that the Navy built a section of | standard wooden aircraft carrier decking, sat a fully fueled V-2 on it, | and blew it up. | The result was one of the first nails in the coffin of launching | liquid-fueled missiles from ships. | Apparently wood burns very well indeed when doused in alchohol and LOX. | Bye-bye Navy Jupiter from aircraft carriers. | | Pat In an environment of immediate post-war competition for funding and roles, I'm sure that at some point - if ever so briefly - it would have made sense to balance very tall and thin missiles on the back of carriers (not the middle of the deck, where the pitching motion would be less) and fire them off - regardless of sea state. Maybe the navy heard of a competing plan in an Air Force locker somewhere to put an airbase on wheels and drive it about the countryside - at night - with the lights off..... .....or invisible disc planes, powered by unobtanium, firing a brace of 4MW laserkanone. -- Cheers Dave Kearton |
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Damon Hill wrote: What will happen is that the ballast will be deeply excavated right out of the roadbed, the ties burnt and the rails will likely warp, or try to. A blast deflector had to have been included in the design. There is one; the exhaust gets shot out to either side of the tracks from above them so it won't be closer than say five feet from them during launch. Pat |
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On Jul 2, 7:46?pm, OM wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 00:54:48 -0500, Damon Hill wrote: I've been checking out the scenery at r.a.m.; seems they have their share of mega-egos, and bat**** insane Nazi apologists too. I wonder how long even Pat's sense of humor will stand up over there? I think you've hammered Arndt's nail. ...Yeah, and I've sent him to Killfile Hell so he can play sodomy games with Guth and his ilk for eternity. Dip****s and ego trippers like Arndt are the kind of scum that tend to really ruin special historical interest groups, as they take on this faux superiority attitude to run off anyone else who might provide info that, in their own addled minds, should only be provided by themselves so they can have their egos masturbated by any accolades for the "assitance". Tom Galloway pulled that **** for years - and AFAIK he's still doing it - over on rec.arts.comics.*, and it ran off more posters than most trolls. ,,,Another sign of the "ego-tripping self-proclaimed net.god" is that they all love to name-drop in one form or another. Either it's some place they've been, or someone they've met, and they trump it up as if they're either half-owner of the location, or the best friend of whoever it was they most likely only saw in passing. And whether or not they're telling the truth is mox nix, as their bragging and excessive inflation of their sense of self-importance negates the importance, if not the validity of their experiences. ...Oh, and r.a.m. and rac* aren't the only ones that have been plagued with this sort of moron. .history had Dwayne "Do not cuss in my presence or I'll leave!" Day for a while, and we've still got Rand Simberg around here to two-line his way into everyone's killfiles. But right now we're talking about Rob Arndt and his unwarranted, unsolicited, unjustified, and totally bogus attack on Scott Lowther - someone who's got about two hundred metric tons more credibility than Arndt does when you get down to it. He's an "ego-tripping self-proclaimed net.god"; in fact, the bozo fits the description to a "T". Or is that a butt plug? OM -- ]=====================================[ ] OMBlog -http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ This is hilarious! KF'd by a comic book fan for trashing a sci-fi modeling fan!!! Rob |
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Rob Arndt Non Grata (Wuz: Advanced versions of the V-2 rocket)
On Jul 2, 7:51?pm, OM wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:45:57 -0500, Pat Flannery wrote: Yeah, I went over to rec.aviation.military and ran into this whacko. But his website is something else, to put it mildly: http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/index.html ...Oh, *he's* the festering little neo-Nazi dickwad who was responsible for all those "Luftwaffe UFO" pages you sent me a while back, wasn't he? Granted, his Nutzi idols came up with some really wild concepts, but most of the ones he's babbled about have about as much validity as a Wikipedia article about beers brewed in Texas written by a pair of 15-year-old Limey schoolpunks. Normally, you'd have to eat a lot of funny mushrooms to come up with stuff like that. ...He's probably been IV'ing his own home brew. Whether it's Nyquil-deerived crystal meth, or just his own attempt at cheap beer, remains to be seen. OM -- ]=====================================[ ] OMBlog -http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ Again, citicism from a comic book fan is hardly insulting. I just need to find that OM Kryptonite! But listen to this guy talk in his few posts... butt plugs, mushrooms, making meth... and of course his promo for his self-admitted obnoxious blog. Holy no-common-sense, Batman! Rob |
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Rob Arndt Non Grata (Wuz: Advanced versions of the V-2 rocket)
OM wrote: ...Oh, *he's* the festering little neo-Nazi dickwad who was responsible for all those "Luftwaffe UFO" pages you sent me a while back, wasn't he? Jah, Mein Fuhrer! Go over Black Sun for more of the same: http://www.greyfalcon.us/ ....and his Star Wars stories! Pat |
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