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Great missions STS-122 & Expedition 16
On Feb 17, 7:04 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
wrote: On Feb 16, 3:51 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Feb 16, 12:35 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Feb 16, 9:40 am, "Joseph S. Powell, III" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 16, 8:53 am, "Joseph S. Powell, III" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 16, 6:46 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: Great mission so far, awesome launch, incredible space walks (great views), and achieving a great accomplishment in space station assembly by adding the Columbus module to the structure. It's great to see both crews together, in the newly added Columbus module during today's joint crew news conference, enjoying their work. But the best part was just after ending the press conference both crews had a moment of fun play time as they spun and flipped around each other, it's great to see such a hardworking people having fun and laughing. Great mission and looking forward to a beautiful landing, thanks to all the work from the crews, and all of the people on the ground that are making this a successful mission.... Don't forget our DoD accomplishments of testing their latest ABL, as that too was another 100% great mission. Too bad there was never any communications between NASA and those of our Boeing team of Phantom Works, or those of Raytheon/TRW for that matter. It's as though DoD and of their ABL contractors were running their own show. . - Brad Guth ABL - is that for Air Bourne Laser, Anti-Ballistic Laser, or something else? ABL = Air Borne Laser (search for Phantom Works ABL) . - BG My most fervent wishes are for the SBL, but unfortunately these babies don't exist (officially). I agree, that a fleet of such ABLs of 100 MW or better laser beam capability is a darn good way to go, as the next best thing to any LEO star wars defensive capability, not to mention multiple other purely terrestrial DoD applications. BTW, officially TWA flight 800 wasn't taken out by friendly DoD fire. Officially the exploding TWA flight 800 simply defied the laws of physics. Officially we(US government) did absolutely nothing to bring about the 9/11 fiasco. Officially we've safely landed upon, walked upon and returned from our moon that's actually of rather pastel grays, offering 0.75 albedo in extensive areas, and otherwise our moon is pretty much a passive sort of place for human DNA to be for extended periods of time, as well as being impossible to ever see or much less include Venus within any unfiltered Kodak recorded FOV. Officially there's no sign or any physical indications of intelligent other life existing/coexisting on Venus. Officially JFK was taken out by one rouge individual, and for no apparent cold-war or NASA/Apollo related matters. Officially our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) is not after the market share or export control of Iraq's oil, coal and natural gas. Officially our FEMA accomplishes its job far better than any other government or private group could muster. Officially Steve Fossett is dead. . - Brad Guth I'd forgot about the matter of our officially being informed via mainstream media and by those in charge of most everything, that Jews supposedly didn't intentionally take out our USS LIBERTY ship and crew, all because of what they'd just done to their 6-Day war prisoners. Of course, long after the fact, we now officially realize such infowar disinformation was simply another perpetrated and mutually orchestrated lie upon lie from the very get-go. I have another dozen or so officially published matter of facts that seem not so truth worthy as we'd been informed. But then, when has our government not excluded evidence or not having outright lied to us. . - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Dude, i just started this thread to pay tribute to all the people who make the shuttle and station programs successful, not to the off topic discussion of the satellite shoot down. That's odd, because I've never once suggested any such thing as "shoot down". Why are you so into lying about what I'd said? I'm opposed to our DoD using our shuttle as a thermal receiving target for their ABL R&D, whereas obviously you and others of your kind don't care if it's used as such. Our nation's space program is accomplishing great things and there are great people who deserve accolades, not the stuff you have strewn together here. That's odd, I never once said that folks weren't accomplishing their jobs. Isn't that exactly what they're paid those big bucks and given such benefits to do? Is doing your job actually all that special these days? (apparently so) I did not address your stuff here or previously as you tend to be over the top, i.e. your messenger posts and a color correction of saturation of +75 will make neon signs out of any gray tones, and not reveal anything meaningful, so your image processing work leaves something to be desired anyway. Say out-of-context what? "columbiaaccidentinvestigation" has what if anything to do with honestly deductive logic? Do you always exclude evidence if it rocks your boat? Now brad, yesterday was the fun day for both crews, and the today is the hatch closing day which is a little sadder, so im not feeling too happy right now, so you might want to keep you idiotic posts off of this thread....... If you say the truth and nothing but the truth is "idiotic posts" worthy, then so be it. Just like putting Christ on a stick was another "fun day" for those faith-based rusemasters in charge, so be it. .. - Brad Guth |
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Great missions STS-122 & Expedition 16
On Feb 17, 7:32 am, BradGuth wrote:
On Feb 17, 7:04 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: On Feb 16, 3:51 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Feb 16, 12:35 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Feb 16, 9:40 am, "Joseph S. Powell, III" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 16, 8:53 am, "Joseph S. Powell, III" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 16, 6:46 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: Great mission so far, awesome launch, incredible space walks (great views), and achieving a great accomplishment in space station assembly by adding the Columbus module to the structure. It's great to see both crews together, in the newly added Columbus module during today's joint crew news conference, enjoying their work. But the best part was just after ending the press conference both crews had a moment of fun play time as they spun and flipped around each other, it's great to see such a hardworking people having fun and laughing. Great mission and looking forward to a beautiful landing, thanks to all the work from the crews, and all of the people on the ground that are making this a successful mission.... Don't forget our DoD accomplishments of testing their latest ABL, as that too was another 100% great mission. Too bad there was never any communications between NASA and those of our Boeing team of Phantom Works, or those of Raytheon/TRW for that matter. It's as though DoD and of their ABL contractors were running their own show. . - Brad Guth ABL - is that for Air Bourne Laser, Anti-Ballistic Laser, or something else? ABL = Air Borne Laser (search for Phantom Works ABL) . - BG My most fervent wishes are for the SBL, but unfortunately these babies don't exist (officially). I agree, that a fleet of such ABLs of 100 MW or better laser beam capability is a darn good way to go, as the next best thing to any LEO star wars defensive capability, not to mention multiple other purely terrestrial DoD applications. BTW, officially TWA flight 800 wasn't taken out by friendly DoD fire.. Officially the exploding TWA flight 800 simply defied the laws of physics. Officially we(US government) did absolutely nothing to bring about the 9/11 fiasco. Officially we've safely landed upon, walked upon and returned from our moon that's actually of rather pastel grays, offering 0.75 albedo in extensive areas, and otherwise our moon is pretty much a passive sort of place for human DNA to be for extended periods of time, as well as being impossible to ever see or much less include Venus within any unfiltered Kodak recorded FOV. Officially there's no sign or any physical indications of intelligent other life existing/coexisting on Venus. Officially JFK was taken out by one rouge individual, and for no apparent cold-war or NASA/Apollo related matters. Officially our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) is not after the market share or export control of Iraq's oil, coal and natural gas. Officially our FEMA accomplishes its job far better than any other government or private group could muster. Officially Steve Fossett is dead. . - Brad Guth I'd forgot about the matter of our officially being informed via mainstream media and by those in charge of most everything, that Jews supposedly didn't intentionally take out our USS LIBERTY ship and crew, all because of what they'd just done to their 6-Day war prisoners. Of course, long after the fact, we now officially realize such infowar disinformation was simply another perpetrated and mutually orchestrated lie upon lie from the very get-go. I have another dozen or so officially published matter of facts that seem not so truth worthy as we'd been informed. But then, when has our government not excluded evidence or not having outright lied to us. . - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Dude, i just started this thread to pay tribute to all the people who make the shuttle and station programs successful, not to the off topic discussion of the satellite shoot down. That's odd, because I've never once suggested any such thing as "shoot down". Why are you so into lying about what I'd said? I'm opposed to our DoD using our shuttle as a thermal receiving target for their ABL R&D, whereas obviously you and others of your kind don't care if it's used as such. Our nation's space program is accomplishing great things and there are great people who deserve accolades, not the stuff you have strewn together here. That's odd, I never once said that folks weren't accomplishing their jobs. Isn't that exactly what they're paid those big bucks and given such benefits to do? Is doing your job actually all that special these days? (apparently so) I did not address your stuff here or previously as you tend to be over the top, i.e. your messenger posts and a color correction of saturation of +75 will make neon signs out of any gray tones, and not reveal anything meaningful, so your image processing work leaves something to be desired anyway. Say out-of-context what? "columbiaaccidentinvestigation" has what if anything to do with honestly deductive logic? Do you always exclude evidence if it rocks your boat? Now brad, yesterday was the fun day for both crews, and the today is the hatch closing day which is a little sadder, so im not feeling too happy right now, so you might want to keep you idiotic posts off of this thread....... If you say the truth and nothing but the truth is "idiotic posts" worthy, then so be it. Just like putting Christ on a stick was another "fun day" for those faith-based rusemasters in charge, so be it. . - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - wow, that is some serious dribble, and no i am really not interested in debating any thing you just stated, as it is way off topic for this thread, and you have made my point about you needing to go over the top. Now what i am interested in is experiments such as solar on the Columbus module. SOLAR payload on ISS Columbus module http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/203212main_sts122_presskit2.pdf STS-122 The Voyage of Columbus Press Kit Page 42 (pdf page 46) External Facilities: SOLAR Apart from contributing to solar and stellar physics, knowledge of the interaction between the solar energy flux and Earth's atmosphere is of great importance for atmospheric modeling, atmospheric chemistry and climatology. SOLAR, will study the sun with unprecedented accuracy across most of its spectral range. This is currently scheduled to last two years. It will be located on the Columbus External Payload Facility zenith position (i.e., pointing away from the Earth). The SOLAR payload consists of three instruments complementing each other to allow measurements of the solar spectral irradiance throughout virtually the whole electromagnetic spectrum from 17 nm to 100 nm in which99% of the solar energy is emitted. The threecomplementary solar science instruments a SOVIM (SOlar Variable & Irradiance Moni tor), which covers near UV, visible and thermal regions of the spectrum (200 nm - 100 ìm) is developed by PMOD/WRC (Davos, Switzerland) with one of the instrument's radiometers provided by IRM (Brussels, Belgium). SOLSPEC (SOLar SPECctral Irradiance measurements) covers the 180 nm 3,000 nm range. SOLSPEC is developed by CNRS (Verrièresle Buisson, France) in partnership with IASB/BIRA (Belgium) and LSW (Germany). SOLACES (SOLar Auto Calibrating Extreme UV/UV Spectrophotometers) measures theEUV/UV spectral regime. SOLACES is developed by IPM (Freiburg, Germany).SOVIM and SOLSPEC are upgraded versions of instruments that have already accomplished several space missions. SOLACES is a newly developed instrument." |
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Great missions STS-122 & Expedition 16
On Feb 17, 7:43 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
wrote: On Feb 17, 7:32 am, BradGuth wrote: On Feb 17, 7:04 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: On Feb 16, 3:51 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Feb 16, 12:35 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Feb 16, 9:40 am, "Joseph S. Powell, III" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 16, 8:53 am, "Joseph S. Powell, III" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 16, 6:46 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: Great mission so far, awesome launch, incredible space walks (great views), and achieving a great accomplishment in space station assembly by adding the Columbus module to the structure. It's great to see both crews together, in the newly added Columbus module during today's joint crew news conference, enjoying their work. But the best part was just after ending the press conference both crews had a moment of fun play time as they spun and flipped around each other, it's great to see such a hardworking people having fun and laughing.. Great mission and looking forward to a beautiful landing, thanks to all the work from the crews, and all of the people on the ground that are making this a successful mission.... Don't forget our DoD accomplishments of testing their latest ABL, as that too was another 100% great mission. Too bad there was never any communications between NASA and those of our Boeing team of Phantom Works, or those of Raytheon/TRW for that matter. It's as though DoD and of their ABL contractors were running their own show. . - Brad Guth ABL - is that for Air Bourne Laser, Anti-Ballistic Laser, or something else? ABL = Air Borne Laser (search for Phantom Works ABL) . - BG My most fervent wishes are for the SBL, but unfortunately these babies don't exist (officially). I agree, that a fleet of such ABLs of 100 MW or better laser beam capability is a darn good way to go, as the next best thing to any LEO star wars defensive capability, not to mention multiple other purely terrestrial DoD applications. BTW, officially TWA flight 800 wasn't taken out by friendly DoD fire. Officially the exploding TWA flight 800 simply defied the laws of physics. Officially we(US government) did absolutely nothing to bring about the 9/11 fiasco. Officially we've safely landed upon, walked upon and returned from our moon that's actually of rather pastel grays, offering 0.75 albedo in extensive areas, and otherwise our moon is pretty much a passive sort of place for human DNA to be for extended periods of time, as well as being impossible to ever see or much less include Venus within any unfiltered Kodak recorded FOV. Officially there's no sign or any physical indications of intelligent other life existing/coexisting on Venus. Officially JFK was taken out by one rouge individual, and for no apparent cold-war or NASA/Apollo related matters. Officially our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) is not after the market share or export control of Iraq's oil, coal and natural gas. Officially our FEMA accomplishes its job far better than any other government or private group could muster. Officially Steve Fossett is dead. . - Brad Guth I'd forgot about the matter of our officially being informed via mainstream media and by those in charge of most everything, that Jews supposedly didn't intentionally take out our USS LIBERTY ship and crew, all because of what they'd just done to their 6-Day war prisoners. Of course, long after the fact, we now officially realize such infowar disinformation was simply another perpetrated and mutually orchestrated lie upon lie from the very get-go. I have another dozen or so officially published matter of facts that seem not so truth worthy as we'd been informed. But then, when has our government not excluded evidence or not having outright lied to us. . - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Dude, i just started this thread to pay tribute to all the people who make the shuttle and station programs successful, not to the off topic discussion of the satellite shoot down. That's odd, because I've never once suggested any such thing as "shoot down". Why are you so into lying about what I'd said? I'm opposed to our DoD using our shuttle as a thermal receiving target for their ABL R&D, whereas obviously you and others of your kind don't care if it's used as such. Our nation's space program is accomplishing great things and there are great people who deserve accolades, not the stuff you have strewn together here. That's odd, I never once said that folks weren't accomplishing their jobs. Isn't that exactly what they're paid those big bucks and given such benefits to do? Is doing your job actually all that special these days? (apparently so) I did not address your stuff here or previously as you tend to be over the top, i.e. your messenger posts and a color correction of saturation of +75 will make neon signs out of any gray tones, and not reveal anything meaningful, so your image processing work leaves something to be desired anyway. Say out-of-context what? "columbiaaccidentinvestigation" has what if anything to do with honestly deductive logic? Do you always exclude evidence if it rocks your boat? Now brad, yesterday was the fun day for both crews, and the today is the hatch closing day which is a little sadder, so im not feeling too happy right now, so you might want to keep you idiotic posts off of this thread....... If you say the truth and nothing but the truth is "idiotic posts" worthy, then so be it. Just like putting Christ on a stick was another "fun day" for those faith-based rusemasters in charge, so be it. . - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - wow, that is some serious dribble, and no i am really not interested in debating any thing you just stated, as it is way off topic for this thread, and you have made my point about you needing to go over the top. Now what i am interested in is experiments such as solar on the Columbus module. SOLAR payload on ISS Columbus module http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/203212main_sts122_presskit2.pdf STS-122 The Voyage of Columbus Press Kit Page 42 (pdf page 46) External Facilities: SOLAR Apart from contributing to solar and stellar physics, knowledge of the interaction between the solar energy flux and Earth's atmosphere is of great importance for atmospheric modeling, atmospheric chemistry and climatology. SOLAR, will study the sun with unprecedented accuracy across most of its spectral range. This is currently scheduled to last two years. It will be located on the Columbus External Payload Facility zenith position (i.e., pointing away from the Earth). The SOLAR payload consists of three instruments complementing each other to allow measurements of the solar spectral irradiance throughout virtually the whole electromagnetic spectrum from 17 nm to 100 nm in which99% of the solar energy is emitted. The threecomplementary solar science instruments a SOVIM (SOlar Variable & Irradiance Moni tor), which covers near UV, visible and thermal regions of the spectrum (200 nm - 100 ìm) is developed by PMOD/WRC (Davos, Switzerland) with one of the instrument's radiometers provided by IRM (Brussels, Belgium). SOLSPEC (SOLar SPECctral Irradiance measurements) covers the 180 nm 3,000 nm range. SOLSPEC is developed by CNRS (Verrièresle Buisson, France) in partnership with IASB/BIRA (Belgium) and LSW (Germany). SOLACES (SOLar Auto Calibrating Extreme UV/UV Spectrophotometers) measures theEUV/UV spectral regime. SOLACES is developed by IPM (Freiburg, Germany).SOVIM and SOLSPEC are upgraded versions of instruments that have already accomplished several space missions. SOLACES is a newly developed instrument." I agree that honest science is what counts, even if the demise of innocent folks is unavoidably required, because without such peer replicated science we'd have next to nothing for improving the quality of life within our caves upon this badly failing globe and polluted environment of ours that's entirely insufficient for sustaining 1e10 souls, that is unless 90% of us are sustained as forever poor, without our fair share of safe and clean energy that's affordable, and otherwise kept as snookered and uneducated so that our minion servitude duties can continue forever. Many faith-based groups have had that same internal policy, so that their rich and powerful remain in charge regardless of their insurmountable greed, arrogance and repeated mistakes. Too bad we're not allowed to realize the science truths about surviving in extended space travels, of even surviving upon or within our extremely nearby and unusually massive moon, about Venus or upon dozens of other extremely good science related matters. With the likes of brown-nosed minions going along with the mainstream status quo, insures that there's never any remorse as to our past, present or future. (just they way you and others of your rusemaster kind seem to like it) . - Brad Guth |
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On Feb 17, 10:04 am, BradGuth wrote: I agree that
honest science is what counts, even if the demise of innocent folks is unavoidably required, because without such peer replicated science we'd have next to nothing for improving the quality of life within our caves upon this badly failing globe and polluted environment of ours that's entirely insufficient for sustaining 1e10 souls, that is unless 90% of us are sustained as forever poor, without our fair share of safe and clean energy that's affordable, and otherwise kept as snookered and uneducated so that our minion servitude duties can continue forever. Many faith-based groups have had that same internal policy, so that their rich and powerful remain in charge regardless of their insurmountable greed, arrogance and repeated mistakes. Too bad we're not allowed to realize the science truths about surviving in extended space travels, of even surviving upon or within our extremely nearby and unusually massive moon, about Venus or upon dozens of other extremely good science related matters. With the likes of brown-nosed minions going along with the mainstream status quo, insures that there's never any remorse as to our past, present or future. (just they way you and others of your rusemaster kind seem to like it) . - Brad Guth" Wrong, and I know where you want to go with such a post but don't even try, as the great work done on the ISS, and shuttle microgravity lab missions has and will contribute a great amount of knowledge as to how to conduct safe long term human travels in space.... Bioastronautics Bioastronautics, is study of biological adaptations the human body may have during long term space travel, in order to make the best space craft design for manned interplanetary missions. Bioastronautics Road Map http://bioastroroadmap.nasa.gov/index.jsp |
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On Feb 17, 10:39 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
wrote: On Feb 17, 10:04 am, BradGuth wrote: I agree that honest science is what counts, even if the demise of innocent folks is unavoidably required, because without such peer replicated science we'd have next to nothing for improving the quality of life within our caves upon this badly failing globe and polluted environment of ours that's entirely insufficient for sustaining 1e10 souls, that is unless 90% of us are sustained as forever poor, without our fair share of safe and clean energy that's affordable, and otherwise kept as snookered and uneducated so that our minion servitude duties can continue forever. Many faith-based groups have had that same internal policy, so that their rich and powerful remain in charge regardless of their insurmountable greed, arrogance and repeated mistakes. Too bad we're not allowed to realize the science truths about surviving in extended space travels, of even surviving upon or within our extremely nearby and unusually massive moon, about Venus or upon dozens of other extremely good science related matters. With the likes of brown-nosed minions going along with the mainstream status quo, insures that there's never any remorse as to our past, present or future. (just they way you and others of your rusemaster kind seem to like it) . - Brad Guth" Wrong, and I know where you want to go with such a post but don't even try, as the great work done on the ISS, and shuttle microgravity lab missions has and will contribute a great amount of knowledge as to how to conduct safe long term human travels in space.... "Wrong" ?????? Since when have I ever been against space science or of the shared knowledge and derived benefits that you keep ranting about? Bioastronautics Bioastronautics, is study of biological adaptations the human body may have during long term space travel, in order to make the best space craft design for manned interplanetary missions. Bioastronautics Road Maphttp://bioastroroadmap.nasa.gov/index.jsp Since when have I been against "Bioastronautics"??? Why are you so mainstream snookered and entirely dumbfounded past the point of no return? Good grief, get yourself another grip. I'm not even slightly the bad guy here, but you're so far gone over the edge to even realize that much. How pathetic. .. - Brad Guth |
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On Feb 17, 10:52 am, BradGuth wrote:
On Feb 17, 10:39 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: On Feb 17, 10:04 am, BradGuth wrote: I agree that honest science is what counts, even if the demise of innocent folks is unavoidably required, because without such peer replicated science we'd have next to nothing for improving the quality of life within our caves upon this badly failing globe and polluted environment of ours that's entirely insufficient for sustaining 1e10 souls, that is unless 90% of us are sustained as forever poor, without our fair share of safe and clean energy that's affordable, and otherwise kept as snookered and uneducated so that our minion servitude duties can continue forever. Many faith-based groups have had that same internal policy, so that their rich and powerful remain in charge regardless of their insurmountable greed, arrogance and repeated mistakes. Too bad we're not allowed to realize the science truths about surviving in extended space travels, of even surviving upon or within our extremely nearby and unusually massive moon, about Venus or upon dozens of other extremely good science related matters. With the likes of brown-nosed minions going along with the mainstream status quo, insures that there's never any remorse as to our past, present or future. (just they way you and others of your rusemaster kind seem to like it) . - Brad Guth" Wrong, and I know where you want to go with such a post but don't even try, as the great work done on the ISS, and shuttle microgravity lab missions has and will contribute a great amount of knowledge as to how to conduct safe long term human travels in space.... "Wrong" ?????? Since when have I ever been against space science or of the shared knowledge and derived benefits that you keep ranting about? Bioastronautics Bioastronautics, is study of biological adaptations the human body may have during long term space travel, in order to make the best space craft design for manned interplanetary missions. Bioastronautics Road Maphttp://bioastroroadmap.nasa.gov/index.jsp Since when have I been against "Bioastronautics"??? Why are you so mainstream snookered and entirely dumbfounded past the point of no return? Good grief, get yourself another grip. I'm not even slightly the bad guy here, but you're so far gone over the edge to even realize that much. How pathetic. . - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Maybe you're not the bad guy, but you are the word salad guy that is posting off topic stuff on a thread and i didn't call you bad, and you don't need to act like im attacking you, as i asked you to stick to the topic of this discussion. But you stated "Too bad we're not allowed to realize the science truths about surviving in extended space travels", and i told you are incorrect as the bioastronautics road map can help demonstrate that long term space travel is not easy, but were are studying the effects of microgravity on humans in the iss, and previously with shuttle microgravity missions. And therefore my citation was not an attack on you as you would like to characterize, I was simply sharing information, and correcting you. http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/191855main_exp16_press_kit.pdf Expedition 16 Press Kit Page 64, pdf 66 "Human Life Science Investigations Physical measurements of Expedition 16 crew members will be used to study changes in the body caused by living in microgravity. Continuing and new experi-ments include: Cardiovascular and Cerebrovascular Control on Return from ISS (CCISS) stud-ies the effects of long-duration spaceflight on crew members' heart functions and blood vessels that supply the brain. Learn-ing more about the cardiovascular and cerebrovascular systems could lead to spe-cific countermeasures that might better pro-tect future space travelers. ELaboratore Immagini Televisive - Space 2 (ELITE-S2) will investigate the connection between brain, visualization and motion in the absence of gravity. By recording and analyzing the three-dimensional motion of astronauts, this study will help engineers apply ergonomics into future spacecraft designs and determine the effects of weightlessness on breathing mechanisms for long-duration missions. This experiment is a cooperative effort with the Italian Space Agency, ASI. Spaceflight-Induced Reactivation of Latent Epstein-Barr Virus (Epstein- Barr) performs tests to study changes in the human immune function. Using blood and urine samples collected from crew mem-bers before and after spaceflight, the study will provide insight for possible counter- measures to prevent the potential develop-ment of infectious illness in crew members during flight. Hand Posture Analyzer (HPA) examines the way hand and arm muscles are used differently during grasping and reaching tasks in microgravity. Measurements are compared to those taken before and after flight to improve understanding of the effects of long-duration missions on muscle fatigue. Behavioral Issues Associated with Isola-tion and Confinement: Review and Analysis of Astronaut Journals (Jour-nals) is studying the effect of isolation by using surveys and journals kept by the crew. By quantifying the importance of dif-ferent behavioral issues in crew members, the study will help NASA design equipment and procedures to allow astronauts to best cope with isolation and long-duration spaceflight. Nutritional Status Assessment (Nutri-tion) is NASA's most comprehensive in-flight study to-date of human physiologic changes during long-duration spaceflight. Its measurements will include bone metabolism, oxidative damage, nutritional assessments and hormonal changes. This study will impact both the definition of nutri-tional requirements and development of food systems for future space exploration missions to the moon and beyond. This experiment also will help researchers un- derstand the impact of countermeasures -- exercise and pharmaceuticals -- on nutri-tional status and nutrient requirements for astronauts. The National Aeronautics and Space Administration Biological Specimen Repository (Repository) is a storage bank used to maintain biological specimens over extended periods of time and under well-controlled conditions. Samples from the sta-tion -- including blood and urine -- will be collected, processed and archived during the pre-flight, in- flight and post-flight phases of the missions. This investigation has been developed to archive biological samples for use as a resource for future spaceflight research. Sleep-Wake Actigraphy and Light Expo-sure During Spaceflight-Long (Sleep-Long) examines the effects of spaceflight and ambient light exposure on the sleep-wake cycles of the crew members during long- duration stays on the space station. Stability of Pharmacotherapeutic and Nutritional Compounds (Stability) studies the effects of radiation in space on complex organic molecules, such as vitamins and other compounds in food and medicine. This could help researchers develop more stable and reliable pharmaceutical and nutritional countermeasures suitable for fu-ture long-duration missions." |
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On Feb 17, 12:09 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
wrote: On Feb 17, 10:52 am, BradGuth wrote: On Feb 17, 10:39 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: On Feb 17, 10:04 am, BradGuth wrote: I agree that honest science is what counts, even if the demise of innocent folks is unavoidably required, because without such peer replicated science we'd have next to nothing for improving the quality of life within our caves upon this badly failing globe and polluted environment of ours that's entirely insufficient for sustaining 1e10 souls, that is unless 90% of us are sustained as forever poor, without our fair share of safe and clean energy that's affordable, and otherwise kept as snookered and uneducated so that our minion servitude duties can continue forever. Many faith-based groups have had that same internal policy, so that their rich and powerful remain in charge regardless of their insurmountable greed, arrogance and repeated mistakes. Too bad we're not allowed to realize the science truths about surviving in extended space travels, of even surviving upon or within our extremely nearby and unusually massive moon, about Venus or upon dozens of other extremely good science related matters. With the likes of brown-nosed minions going along with the mainstream status quo, insures that there's never any remorse as to our past, present or future. (just they way you and others of your rusemaster kind seem to like it) . - Brad Guth" Wrong, and I know where you want to go with such a post but don't even try, as the great work done on the ISS, and shuttle microgravity lab missions has and will contribute a great amount of knowledge as to how to conduct safe long term human travels in space.... "Wrong" ?????? Since when have I ever been against space science or of the shared knowledge and derived benefits that you keep ranting about? Bioastronautics Bioastronautics, is study of biological adaptations the human body may have during long term space travel, in order to make the best space craft design for manned interplanetary missions. Bioastronautics Road Maphttp://bioastroroadmap.nasa.gov/index.jsp Since when have I been against "Bioastronautics"??? Why are you so mainstream snookered and entirely dumbfounded past the point of no return? Good grief, get yourself another grip. I'm not even slightly the bad guy here, but you're so far gone over the edge to even realize that much. How pathetic. . - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Maybe you're not the bad guy, but you are the word salad guy that is posting off topic stuff on a thread and i didn't call you bad, and you don't need to act like im attacking you, as i asked you to stick to the topic of this discussion. But you stated "Too bad we're not allowed to realize the science truths about surviving in extended space travels", and i told you are incorrect as the bioastronautics road map can help demonstrate that long term space travel is not easy, but were are studying the effects of microgravity on humans in the iss, and previously with shuttle microgravity missions. And therefore my citation was not an attack on you as you would like to characterize, I was simply sharing information, and correcting you. http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/191855main_exp16_press_kit.pdf Expedition 16 Press Kit Page 64, pdf 66 "Human Life Science Investigations Physical measurements of Expedition 16 crew members will be used to study changes in the body caused by living in microgravity. Continuing and new experi-ments include: Cardiovascular and Cerebrovascular Control on Return from ISS (CCISS) stud-ies the effects of long-duration spaceflight on crew members' heart functions and blood vessels that supply the brain. Learn-ing more about the cardiovascular and cerebrovascular systems could lead to spe-cific countermeasures that might better pro-tect future space travelers. ELaboratore Immagini Televisive - Space 2 (ELITE-S2) will investigate the connection between brain, visualization and motion in the absence of gravity. By recording and analyzing the three-dimensional motion of astronauts, this study will help engineers apply ergonomics into future spacecraft designs and determine the effects of weightlessness on breathing mechanisms for long-duration missions. This experiment is a cooperative effort with the Italian Space Agency, ASI. Spaceflight-Induced Reactivation of Latent Epstein-Barr Virus (Epstein- Barr) performs tests to study changes in the human immune function. Using blood and urine samples collected from crew mem-bers before and after spaceflight, the study will provide insight for possible counter- measures to prevent the potential develop-ment of infectious illness in crew members during flight. Hand Posture Analyzer (HPA) examines the way hand and arm muscles are used differently during grasping and reaching tasks in microgravity. Measurements are compared to those taken before and after flight to improve understanding of the effects of long-duration missions on muscle fatigue. Behavioral Issues Associated with Isola-tion and Confinement: Review and Analysis of Astronaut Journals (Jour-nals) is studying the effect of isolation by using surveys and journals kept by the crew. By quantifying the importance of dif-ferent behavioral issues in crew members, the study will help NASA design equipment and procedures to allow astronauts to best cope with isolation and long-duration spaceflight. Nutritional Status Assessment (Nutri-tion) is NASA's most comprehensive in-flight study to-date of human physiologic changes during long-duration spaceflight. Its measurements will include bone metabolism, oxidative damage, nutritional assessments and hormonal changes. This study will impact both the definition of nutri-tional requirements and development of food systems for future space exploration missions to the moon and beyond. This experiment also will help researchers un- derstand the impact of countermeasures -- exercise and pharmaceuticals -- on nutri-tional status and nutrient requirements for astronauts. The National Aeronautics and Space Administration Biological Specimen Repository (Repository) is a storage bank used to maintain biological specimens over extended periods of time and under well-controlled conditions. Samples from the sta-tion -- including blood and urine -- will be collected, processed and archived during the pre-flight, in- flight and post-flight phases of the missions. This investigation has been developed to archive biological samples for use as a resource for future spaceflight research. Sleep-Wake Actigraphy and Light Expo-sure During Spaceflight-Long (Sleep-Long) examines the effects of spaceflight and ambient light exposure on the sleep-wake cycles of the crew members during long- duration stays on the space station. Stability of Pharmacotherapeutic and Nutritional Compounds (Stability) studies the effects of radiation in space on complex organic molecules, such as vitamins and other compounds in food and medicine. This could help researchers develop more stable and reliable pharmaceutical and nutritional countermeasures suitable for fu-ture long-duration missions." You don't have to convince me that open space travel on behalf of human DNA surviving isn't going to be extremely tough if not nearly impossible unless a substantial degree of shielding can be taken along for the ride. Given a suitable pressure vessel as ones spacecraft, along with all the essential beer, pizza and whatever fuel(s) as thrust and survival related energy, whereas it's all sort of pointless if the frail human DNA within this craft is getting badly gamma and hard-X-ray traumatized and/or damaged beyond the point of no return, not to mention their continually having to avoid those pesky 30+ km/s impacts with whatever space debris, that which simply hasn't quite been figured out any better than how to go about making such impact repairs while continually on the fly (there's only so much that you can accomplish with ductape). Once human DNA has evolved and/or having been intelligently redesigned as either rad-hard or fully repairable, whereas all sorts of space travel possibilities come to light. However, upon going to/from Venus isn't nearly as bad off as going the other way, or far worse being parked within the Earth-Moon L1, and of otherwise surviving via applied technology upon the surface of Venus is actually quite good compared to most every other known planet or moon. We humans have adapted to surviving with 10+ tonnes/m2 of atmospheric shielding, plus having an extremely powerful magnetosphere on top of that, and even though mother Earth is always covering our backside(sort of speak) it's still found as insufficient for safely protecting our frail DNA. At least Venus offers terrific atmospheric shielding from whatever solar and cosmic gauntlet, it's almost impossible for a meteor to hardly dent much of anything, and having unlimited local energy to burn(sort of speak) are just a few of the local advantages, not to mention that Venus gets to within 100X the distance of our moon every 19 months. What is it about your "Bioastronautics" that can't possibly cope with what Venus has to offer? .. - Brad Guth |
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Great missions STS-122 & Expedition 16
On Feb 17, 3:13 pm, BradGuth wrote:"You don't
have to convince me..." laughing, im not trying to, and wouldn't want to, as you are playing the same games as usual. Here is a link to the page that lists iss experiments by expedition. (starts with 17 so you need to scroll down to the expedition 16 experiments. http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/st...dition.html#16 |
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Great missions STS-122 & Expedition 16
On Feb 17, 4:29 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
wrote: On Feb 17, 3:13 pm, BradGuth wrote:"You don't have to convince me..." laughing, im not trying to, and wouldn't want to, as you are playing the same games as usual. Here is a link to the page that lists iss experiments by expedition. (starts with 17 so you need to scroll down to the expedition 16 experiments. http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/st...iments/Expedit... Ever notice how others that always claim as being all-knowing are not bothering to contribute to your silly rants? You and William Mook should sleep together, especially since you're each one of an equal mindset kind, of the exact same feather and all of that right stuff. TRW/Raytheon GSO = 2e3 Sv/year as shielded by 5/16" aluminum, and that's obviously with mother Earth always blocking some of that cosmic trauma. Of course outside of our magnetosphere it should be a little better off, especially without that nearby gamma and X-ray saturated moon within sight or passing by so often. .. - Brad Guth |
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Great missions STS-122 & Expedition 16
"Joseph S. Powell, III" wrote in message ... ABL - is that for Air Bourne Laser, Anti-Ballistic Laser, or something else? Anti-Brad laser |
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