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On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 17:05:41 -0500, HVAC wrote:
On 11/6/2012 4:46 PM, Painius wrote: On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:31:16 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 6, 2:50 pm, wrote: On 11/6/2012 1:41 PM, mpc755 wrote: On Nov 6, 1:17 pm, wrote: On 11/6/2012 12:55 PM, Mike Cavedon wrote: Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012...Dark_Core.html Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist. When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all. For some odd reason, they threw the baby out with the bathwater. Yup....And neither one was missed. If you only knew how ****ing stupid and inane that sounds. -- Indelibly yours, Paine @ http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/ "Life's greatest risk is never daring to risk." |
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On Nov 7, 10:22*pm, Painius wrote:
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 17:05:41 -0500, HVAC wrote: On 11/6/2012 4:46 PM, Painius wrote: On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:31:16 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 6, 2:50 pm, *wrote: On 11/6/2012 1:41 PM, mpc755 wrote: On Nov 6, 1:17 pm, * *wrote: On 11/6/2012 12:55 PM, Mike Cavedon wrote: Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012...Dark_Core.html Ether exists exactly as much as ghosts exist. When performing ANY calculations, ether, god and ghosts can be treated exactly in the same manner...As if they do not exist at all. For some odd reason, they threw the baby out with the bathwater. Yup....And neither one was missed. If you only knew how ****ing stupid and inane that sounds. -- Indelibly yours, Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/ "Life's greatest risk is never daring to risk." He does, and he thinks it's funny how it makes you respond like a dog going after the next tasty treat. Why do you even bother to read his crap, much less responding to it? Humans need to belong to something, and so for most of us it's religion or the faith in something greater than our molecular existence, that happens to fill that intellectual and even somewhat biological need. For many of us it's a desire as to being an accepted club or mafia member in good standing. Harlow is only here to disrupt this harmony of what humans created for themselves, and it's why he has no family or friends outside of hell or someplace worse off. Of course devout Semites don't believe in hell, nor in anything offered by the likes of Jesus Christ that they helped to get placed on a stick, while always blaming others. https://groups.google.com/forum/m/ http://groups.google.com/groups/search http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/Guth Venus |
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On 11/8/2012 8:31 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
On Nov 7, 10:22 pm, wrote: He does, and he thinks it's funny how it makes you respond like a dog going after the next tasty treat. So Goth is saying that I have Painus trained like my bitch? What a nice thing to say, Goth. Why do you even bother to read his crap, much less responding to it? No one replies to me more than you do, Goth. Humans need to belong to something, and so for most of us it's religion or the faith in something greater than our molecular existence, Painus is very religious. biological need. For many of us it's a desire as to being an accepted club or mafia member in good standing. Harlow is only here to disrupt this harmony of what humans created for themselves Me? Disrupt harmony? -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo .. å亮 http://www.richardgingras.com/tia/im...logo_large.jpg |
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:58:44 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote: On Nov 9, 2:37*pm, Painius wrote: On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:52:47 -0500, HVAC wrote: On 11/9/2012 11:37 AM, Painius wrote: When the baby is ether and the bathwater is god, both should be thrown out like 3 day old fish. Neither has ANY basis in reality and neither need be factored into any equations. Since you have absolutely NOTHING to refute my statement, all I can do is accept your apology. Your above description does not come close to what happened. Then explain to my why every single person that believes in spectral ether also believes in god? Prove that. I'll even accept an AQL sample of those who believe in a spatial medium, which I do not refer to as an "ether". * You don't have to ask all of them, just ask, say, 10% of them. *When you have proved that your lying statement is true, which of course you won't because you can't, only then will you receive an explanation. You cannot and will not be able to prove that "every single person that believes in a spectral ether also believes in god". *That is why it is a well-known fact that you are not any kind of scientist. *A real scientist would not make statements that are impossible for them to back up. You are thus far a liar, a scientific plagiarist, a copyright infringer, and a fraud. *There are very few people left for you to fool. *LMFBO ! Also, I never said that I believe in any kind of god, non-trivial or otherwise. *That is your fantasy. *I have never said that because I absolutely do not believe in *any* kind of god. *It is *you* who keep bringing your god and your religion into discussions, and I, for one, would appreciate it if you would keep your ko0ky lies, your false god, your religion, and your faux atheism out of science discussions, troller. So, unless you can prove your above lie, we are done here. *I will no longer snap at your hook, trollerbot. If you understand space and dark matter are one in the same then you are referring to the spacial medium as the ether. Actually, and as I said above, I like to steer away from the usage of the terms "ether" and "aether". To me, they are non-viable archaic words that are too tightly connected with a "static" spatial medium. You and I, Mike, seem to know that the spatial medium is nothing if not a fully dynamic and powerful cause of gravitation. It is anything *but* static and unmoving, so those archaic terms should be set aside for a more modern term. The one I came up with many years ago is "SPED", which stands for "sub-Planckian energy domain". When one realizes that space and matter are extensions of each other, when it occurs to one that space must be comprised of something that causes gravitation, then it becomes obvious that the mysterious and enigmatic "dark matter" is actually space itself. -- Indelibly yours, Paine @ http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/ "The less their ability, the more their conceit." |
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On Nov 10, 7:08*pm, Painius wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:58:44 -0800 (PST), mpc755 wrote: On Nov 9, 2:37 pm, Painius wrote: On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:52:47 -0500, HVAC wrote: On 11/9/2012 11:37 AM, Painius wrote: When the baby is ether and the bathwater is god, both should be thrown out like 3 day old fish. Neither has ANY basis in reality and neither need be factored into any equations. Since you have absolutely NOTHING to refute my statement, all I can do is accept your apology. Your above description does not come close to what happened. Then explain to my why every single person that believes in spectral ether also believes in god? Prove that. I'll even accept an AQL sample of those who believe in a spatial medium, which I do not refer to as an "ether". You don't have to ask all of them, just ask, say, 10% of them. When you have proved that your lying statement is true, which of course you won't because you can't, only then will you receive an explanation. You cannot and will not be able to prove that "every single person that believes in a spectral ether also believes in god". That is why it is a well-known fact that you are not any kind of scientist. A real scientist would not make statements that are impossible for them to back up. You are thus far a liar, a scientific plagiarist, a copyright infringer, and a fraud. There are very few people left for you to fool. LMFBO ! Also, I never said that I believe in any kind of god, non-trivial or otherwise. That is your fantasy. I have never said that because I absolutely do not believe in *any* kind of god. It is *you* who keep bringing your god and your religion into discussions, and I, for one, would appreciate it if you would keep your ko0ky lies, your false god, your religion, and your faux atheism out of science discussions, troller. So, unless you can prove your above lie, we are done here. I will no longer snap at your hook, trollerbot. If you understand space and dark matter are one in the same then you are referring to the spacial medium as the ether. Actually, and as I said above, I like to steer away from the usage of the terms "ether" and "aether". *To me, they are non-viable archaic words that are too tightly connected with a "static" spatial medium. You and I, Mike, seem to know that the spatial medium is nothing if not a fully dynamic and powerful cause of gravitation. *It is anything *but* static and unmoving, so those archaic terms should be set aside for a more modern term. *The one I came up with many years ago is "SPED", which stands for "sub-Planckian energy domain". When one realizes that space and matter are extensions of each other, when it occurs to one that space must be comprised of something that causes gravitation, then it becomes obvious that the mysterious and enigmatic "dark matter" is actually space itself. -- Indelibly yours, Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/ "The less their ability, the more their conceit." Einstein defined motion in terms of the aether as the aether does not consist of individual particles which can be separately tracked through time. I interpret this to mean it can't be known if the aether consists of particles or not. Non-baryonic dark matter is aether. The wave out ahead of our heliosphere is an aether displacement wave. The wave created when galaxy clusters collide is an aether displacement wave. The offset between the light lensing through the space neighboring galaxy clusters and the galaxy clusters themselves is caused by the galaxy clusters moving through and displacing the aether. The pushing back and pressure exerted toward the solar system detected by Voyager is the force associated with the aether displaced by the solar system which is pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the solar system. Stating "dark matter" is actually space itself is completely missing the point. What is postulated as non-baryonic dark matter is aether. Aether has mass. Aether is the interstellar medium. The fabric of space is the aether. Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter. Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity. A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both. |
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On 11/10/2012 7:08 PM, Painius wrote:
You and I, Mike, seem to know that the spatial medium is nothing if not a fully dynamic and powerful cause of gravitation. It is anything *but* static and unmoving, so those archaic terms should be set aside for a more modern term. The one I came up with many years ago is "SPED", which stands for "sub-Planckian energy domain". 'SPED' also refers to people who ride the short bus. As in SPecial EDucation Just an FYI -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo .. å亮 http://www.richardgingras.com/tia/im...logo_large.jpg |
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 19:28:54 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote: On Nov 10, 7:08*pm, Painius wrote: On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:58:44 -0800 (PST), mpc755 wrote: On Nov 9, 2:37 pm, Painius wrote: On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:52:47 -0500, HVAC wrote: On 11/9/2012 11:37 AM, Painius wrote: When the baby is ether and the bathwater is god, both should be thrown out like 3 day old fish. Neither has ANY basis in reality and neither need be factored into any equations. Since you have absolutely NOTHING to refute my statement, all I can do is accept your apology. Your above description does not come close to what happened. Then explain to my why every single person that believes in spectral ether also believes in god? Prove that. I'll even accept an AQL sample of those who believe in a spatial medium, which I do not refer to as an "ether". You don't have to ask all of them, just ask, say, 10% of them. When you have proved that your lying statement is true, which of course you won't because you can't, only then will you receive an explanation. You cannot and will not be able to prove that "every single person that believes in a spectral ether also believes in god". That is why it is a well-known fact that you are not any kind of scientist. A real scientist would not make statements that are impossible for them to back up. You are thus far a liar, a scientific plagiarist, a copyright infringer, and a fraud. There are very few people left for you to fool. LMFBO ! Also, I never said that I believe in any kind of god, non-trivial or otherwise. That is your fantasy. I have never said that because I absolutely do not believe in *any* kind of god. It is *you* who keep bringing your god and your religion into discussions, and I, for one, would appreciate it if you would keep your ko0ky lies, your false god, your religion, and your faux atheism out of science discussions, troller. So, unless you can prove your above lie, we are done here. I will no longer snap at your hook, trollerbot. If you understand space and dark matter are one in the same then you are referring to the spacial medium as the ether. Actually, and as I said above, I like to steer away from the usage of the terms "ether" and "aether". *To me, they are non-viable archaic words that are too tightly connected with a "static" spatial medium. You and I, Mike, seem to know that the spatial medium is nothing if not a fully dynamic and powerful cause of gravitation. *It is anything *but* static and unmoving, so those archaic terms should be set aside for a more modern term. *The one I came up with many years ago is "SPED", which stands for "sub-Planckian energy domain". When one realizes that space and matter are extensions of each other, when it occurs to one that space must be comprised of something that causes gravitation, then it becomes obvious that the mysterious and enigmatic "dark matter" is actually space itself. Einstein defined motion in terms of the aether as the aether does not consist of individual particles which can be separately tracked through time. I interpret this to mean it can't be known if the aether consists of particles or not. My interpretation is the same, for now. That doesn't mean that it can't *ever* be known, though. Also, Einstein's words might be interpreted to mean that the aether is comprised of particles that periodically change back and forth between states of matter and energy. Such particles might be untrackable through time. Non-baryonic dark matter is aether. The wave out ahead of our heliosphere is an aether displacement wave. The wave created when galaxy clusters collide is an aether displacement wave. The offset between the light lensing through the space neighboring galaxy clusters and the galaxy clusters themselves is caused by the galaxy clusters moving through and displacing the aether. The pushing back and pressure exerted toward the solar system detected by Voyager is the force associated with the aether displaced by the solar system which is pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the solar system. Stating "dark matter" is actually space itself is completely missing the point. I disagree. Do you think that the aether fills space? or is the aether what space itself is comprised of? What is postulated as non-baryonic dark matter is aether. Aether has mass. Aether is the interstellar medium. The fabric of space is the aether. That makes sense. Think about what a baryon is, and then what non-baryonic matter would be. My proposal that space is comprised of sub-quarks would fill the bill. They would more precisely be "sub-baryonic" matter. Over the vast deserts of space between planets, stellar systems, galaxies and galaxy clusters, that would amount to an astonishing amount of (dark) matter, wouldn't it? Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter. Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity. Yet, the aether cannot do that on its own. It must have help. There must be a pressure exerted on the aether. What, in your opinion, might be the source of that pressure? A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both. What, again in your opinion, causes the disappearance of the interference pattern when a sensor is placed near a slit? -- Indelibly yours, Paine @ http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/ "Hell hath no fury like a troller scorned." |
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On Nov 11, 6:13*pm, Painius wrote:
Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity. Yet, the aether cannot do that on its own. *It must have help. *There must be a pressure exerted on the aether. *What, in your opinion, might be the source of that pressure? Aether exists everywhere particles of matter do not. A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both. What, again in your opinion, causes the disappearance of the interference pattern when a sensor is placed near a slit? 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory - Louis de BROGLIE' http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics I was looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles, of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the physical reality of waves and particles. any particle, even isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous energetic contact with a hidden medium The hidden medium of de Broglie wave mechanics is the aether. The energetic contact is the state of displacement of the aether. A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle travels a well defined path which takes it through one slit. The associated wave in the aether passes through both. As the aether wave exits the slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Detecting the particle strongly exiting a single slit turns the associated aether wave into chop. The aether waves exiting the slits interact with the detectors and become many short waves with irregular motion. The waves are disorganized. There is no wave interference. The particle pitches and rolls through the chop. The particle gets knocked around by the chop and it no longer creates an interference pattern. |
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On Nov 11, 6:13*pm, Painius wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 19:28:54 -0800 (PST), mpc755 wrote: On Nov 10, 7:08 pm, Painius wrote: On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:58:44 -0800 (PST), mpc755 wrote: On Nov 9, 2:37 pm, Painius wrote: On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:52:47 -0500, HVAC wrote: On 11/9/2012 11:37 AM, Painius wrote: When the baby is ether and the bathwater is god, both should be thrown out like 3 day old fish. Neither has ANY basis in reality and neither need be factored into any equations. Since you have absolutely NOTHING to refute my statement, all I can do is accept your apology. Your above description does not come close to what happened. Then explain to my why every single person that believes in spectral ether also believes in god? Prove that. I'll even accept an AQL sample of those who believe in a spatial medium, which I do not refer to as an "ether". You don't have to ask all of them, just ask, say, 10% of them. When you have proved that your lying statement is true, which of course you won't because you can't, only then will you receive an explanation. You cannot and will not be able to prove that "every single person that believes in a spectral ether also believes in god". That is why it is a well-known fact that you are not any kind of scientist. A real scientist would not make statements that are impossible for them to back up. You are thus far a liar, a scientific plagiarist, a copyright infringer, and a fraud. There are very few people left for you to fool. LMFBO ! Also, I never said that I believe in any kind of god, non-trivial or otherwise. That is your fantasy. I have never said that because I absolutely do not believe in *any* kind of god. It is *you* who keep bringing your god and your religion into discussions, and I, for one, would appreciate it if you would keep your ko0ky lies, your false god, your religion, and your faux atheism out of science discussions, troller. So, unless you can prove your above lie, we are done here. I will no longer snap at your hook, trollerbot. If you understand space and dark matter are one in the same then you are referring to the spacial medium as the ether. Actually, and as I said above, I like to steer away from the usage of the terms "ether" and "aether". To me, they are non-viable archaic words that are too tightly connected with a "static" spatial medium. You and I, Mike, seem to know that the spatial medium is nothing if not a fully dynamic and powerful cause of gravitation. It is anything *but* static and unmoving, so those archaic terms should be set aside for a more modern term. The one I came up with many years ago is "SPED", which stands for "sub-Planckian energy domain". When one realizes that space and matter are extensions of each other, when it occurs to one that space must be comprised of something that causes gravitation, then it becomes obvious that the mysterious and enigmatic "dark matter" is actually space itself. Einstein defined motion in terms of the aether as the aether does not consist of individual particles which can be separately tracked through time. I interpret this to mean it can't be known if the aether consists of particles or not. My interpretation is the same, for now. *That doesn't mean that it can't *ever* be known, though. *Also, Einstein's words might be interpreted to mean that the aether is comprised of particles that periodically change back and forth between states of matter and energy. *Such particles might be untrackable through time. Non-baryonic dark matter is aether. The wave out ahead of our heliosphere is an aether displacement wave. The wave created when galaxy clusters collide is an aether displacement wave. The offset between the light lensing through the space neighboring galaxy clusters and the galaxy clusters themselves is caused by the galaxy clusters moving through and displacing the aether. The pushing back and pressure exerted toward the solar system detected by Voyager is the force associated with the aether displaced by the solar system which is pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the solar system. Stating "dark matter" is actually space itself is completely missing the point. I disagree. *Do you think that the aether fills space? or is the aether what space itself is comprised of? What is postulated as non-baryonic dark matter is aether. Aether has mass. Aether is the interstellar medium. The fabric of space is the aether. That makes sense. *Think about what a baryon is, and then what non-baryonic matter would be. *My proposal that space is comprised of sub-quarks would fill the bill. *They would more precisely be "sub-baryonic" matter. *Over the vast deserts of space between planets, stellar systems, galaxies and galaxy clusters, that would amount to an astonishing amount of (dark) matter, wouldn't it? Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter. Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity. Yet, the aether cannot do that on its own. *It must have help. *There must be a pressure exerted on the aether. *What, in your opinion, might be the source of that pressure? A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both. What, again in your opinion, causes the disappearance of the interference pattern when a sensor is placed near a slit? -- Indelibly yours, Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/ "Hell hath no fury like a troller scorned." Painius aether has waves as proven by Casimir effect.. I think of "ground state fluctuations between the plates and its space waves creating a force pushing the plates together. A force is a source of gravity,and that fits with GR. Matter fits in here nicely I have thoughts that the metal's molecules have an attraction that pulls the plates together. So again it comes down to push,or pull . TreBert |
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On Nov 11, 7:37*pm, "G=EMC^2" wrote:
On Nov 11, 6:13*pm, Painius wrote: On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 19:28:54 -0800 (PST), mpc755 wrote: On Nov 10, 7:08 pm, Painius wrote: On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 11:58:44 -0800 (PST), mpc755 wrote: On Nov 9, 2:37 pm, Painius wrote: On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:52:47 -0500, HVAC wrote: On 11/9/2012 11:37 AM, Painius wrote: When the baby is ether and the bathwater is god, both should be thrown out like 3 day old fish. Neither has ANY basis in reality and neither need be factored into any equations. Since you have absolutely NOTHING to refute my statement, all I can do is accept your apology. Your above description does not come close to what happened. Then explain to my why every single person that believes in spectral ether also believes in god? Prove that. I'll even accept an AQL sample of those who believe in a spatial medium, which I do not refer to as an "ether". You don't have to ask all of them, just ask, say, 10% of them. When you have proved that your lying statement is true, which of course you won't because you can't, only then will you receive an explanation. You cannot and will not be able to prove that "every single person that believes in a spectral ether also believes in god". That is why it is a well-known fact that you are not any kind of scientist. A real scientist would not make statements that are impossible for them to back up. You are thus far a liar, a scientific plagiarist, a copyright infringer, and a fraud. There are very few people left for you to fool. LMFBO ! Also, I never said that I believe in any kind of god, non-trivial or otherwise. That is your fantasy. I have never said that because I absolutely do not believe in *any* kind of god. It is *you* who keep bringing your god and your religion into discussions, and I, for one, would appreciate it if you would keep your ko0ky lies, your false god, your religion, and your faux atheism out of science discussions, troller. So, unless you can prove your above lie, we are done here. I will no longer snap at your hook, trollerbot. If you understand space and dark matter are one in the same then you are referring to the spacial medium as the ether. Actually, and as I said above, I like to steer away from the usage of the terms "ether" and "aether". To me, they are non-viable archaic words that are too tightly connected with a "static" spatial medium. You and I, Mike, seem to know that the spatial medium is nothing if not a fully dynamic and powerful cause of gravitation. It is anything *but* static and unmoving, so those archaic terms should be set aside for a more modern term. The one I came up with many years ago is "SPED", which stands for "sub-Planckian energy domain". When one realizes that space and matter are extensions of each other, when it occurs to one that space must be comprised of something that causes gravitation, then it becomes obvious that the mysterious and enigmatic "dark matter" is actually space itself. Einstein defined motion in terms of the aether as the aether does not consist of individual particles which can be separately tracked through time. I interpret this to mean it can't be known if the aether consists of particles or not. My interpretation is the same, for now. *That doesn't mean that it can't *ever* be known, though. *Also, Einstein's words might be interpreted to mean that the aether is comprised of particles that periodically change back and forth between states of matter and energy. *Such particles might be untrackable through time. Non-baryonic dark matter is aether. The wave out ahead of our heliosphere is an aether displacement wave. The wave created when galaxy clusters collide is an aether displacement wave. The offset between the light lensing through the space neighboring galaxy clusters and the galaxy clusters themselves is caused by the galaxy clusters moving through and displacing the aether. The pushing back and pressure exerted toward the solar system detected by Voyager is the force associated with the aether displaced by the solar system which is pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the solar system. Stating "dark matter" is actually space itself is completely missing the point. I disagree. *Do you think that the aether fills space? or is the aether what space itself is comprised of? What is postulated as non-baryonic dark matter is aether. Aether has mass. Aether is the interstellar medium. The fabric of space is the aether. That makes sense. *Think about what a baryon is, and then what non-baryonic matter would be. *My proposal that space is comprised of sub-quarks would fill the bill. *They would more precisely be "sub-baryonic" matter. *Over the vast deserts of space between planets, stellar systems, galaxies and galaxy clusters, that would amount to an astonishing amount of (dark) matter, wouldn't it? Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter. Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity. Yet, the aether cannot do that on its own. *It must have help. *There must be a pressure exerted on the aether. *What, in your opinion, might be the source of that pressure? A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both. What, again in your opinion, causes the disappearance of the interference pattern when a sensor is placed near a slit? -- Indelibly yours, Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/ "Hell hath no fury like a troller scorned." Painius *aether has waves as proven by Casimir effect.. *I think of "ground state fluctuations between the plates and its space waves creating a force pushing the plates together. A force *is a source of gravity,and that fits with GR. *Matter fits in here nicely * I have thoughts that the metal's molecules have an attraction that pulls the plates together. So again it comes down to push,or pull *. *TreBert http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir...#Vacuum_energy "a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest position" A 'field' in physics is space filled with aether and the strength of the field is the displacement of the aether from its rest position. Each of the plates in the Casimir effect displace the aether. The displaced aether which exists between the plates is pushing back toward each of the plates which causes the aether displaced by each of the plates which exists between the plates to offset. This aether is more at rest than the aether which is displaced by the plates which encompasses the plates. The reduced force associated with the aether which exists between the plates along with the displaced aether which encompasses the plates which is pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the plates causes the plates to be forced together. What occurs physically in nature in the Casimir effect is the same phenomenon as gravity. There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter. Aether has mass and physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter. Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity. The aether which exists between the Earth and the Moon is displaced by both the Earth and the Moon and is pushing back toward the Earth and toward the Moon. This displaced aether offsets and cancels each other out to some degree. This aether is more at rest than the aether which encompasses the Earth and the Moon. The aether which encompasses the Earth and the Moon is able to exert more pressure on the solid matter Earth than it can the liquid oceans. This causes the solid matter Earth to be pushed closer to the Moon than the ocean water opposite the Moon. This causes the ocean to 'rise' opposite the Moon. The aether displaced between the Earth and Moon is more at rest. This aether exerts less pressure on the ocean water between the Earth and the Moon than it can the solid matter Earth. This causes the ocean to 'rise' between the Earth and Moon. |
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