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'Dawn' asteroid probe -- highest power ever?
The 'Dawn' asteroid mission (June launch) has a 10 kilowatt electrical power
system -- is that the highest power level ever for an interplanetary probe? Cassini: 750 watts Galileo: 500 watts Deep Space 1: 2.4 kilowatts |
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'Dawn' asteroid probe -- highest power ever?
"Jim Oberg" wrote in message
The 'Dawn' asteroid mission (June launch) has a 10 kilowatt electrical power system -- is that the highest power level ever for an interplanetary probe? Cassini: 750 watts Galileo: 500 watts Deep Space 1: 2.4 kilowatts And exactly how much birth to grave (including yourself) is that mission costing us? - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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'Dawn' asteroid probe -- highest power ever?
Brad Guth wrote: "Jim Oberg" wrote in message The 'Dawn' asteroid mission (June launch) has a 10 kilowatt electrical power system -- is that the highest power level ever for an interplanetary probe? Cassini: 750 watts Galileo: 500 watts Deep Space 1: 2.4 kilowatts And exactly how much birth to grave (including yourself) is that mission costing us? I'd chip in a tener to send you to Venus. -- Bush say global warm-warm not real Even though ice gone and no seals Polar bears can't find their meals Grow as thin as Ally McBeals |
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'Dawn' asteroid probe -- highest power ever?
"Bill Bonde" wrote in message
I'd chip in a tener to send you to Venus. At least upon Venus there's unlimited renewable energy to burn (sort of speak), as well as obviously loads of easily obtained elements. In other words, your 'Dawn' is so freaking bad off spendy that it's likely costing us at least ten fold whatever your LLPOF NASA is suggesting. - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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Bill Bonde wrote:
Brad Guth wrote: "Jim Oberg" wrote in message The 'Dawn' asteroid mission (June launch) has a 10 kilowatt electrical power system -- is that the highest power level ever for an interplanetary probe? Cassini: 750 watts Galileo: 500 watts Deep Space 1: 2.4 kilowatts And exactly how much birth to grave (including yourself) is that mission costing us? I'd chip in a tener to send you to Venus. Oh look, it's some conservative humor. What did you guys do, hire some liberal comedy consultants? I think the baseline mission is under $500 million, but the extended mission could get costly if these things are as robust as the Mars Rovers. And they should be. I just read they made a fundamental efficiency improvement to the Xenon ion thruster design, variable thrust or some such thing. We need more of these things, not only do we need to identify everything down to the 100 meter level or so, we've got hundreds of larger ones to visit. What we really need to do is fast track a Ceres Reconnaissance Orbiter as a follow up to this mission, and maybe try to get to Pallas too. Some amazing things are out there just waiting to be found. It's a nearby fifth planet that we know very little about. -- Get A Free Orbiter Space Flight Simulator : http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html |
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'Dawn' asteroid probe -- highest power ever?
"Brad Guth" wrote in message news:29f4bdfc4f53c46cf5d65dbc6b567657.49644@mygate .mailgate.org... "Bill Bonde" wrote in message I'd chip in a tener to send you to Venus. At least upon Venus there's unlimited renewable energy to burn (sort of speak), as well as obviously loads of easily obtained elements. In other words, your 'Dawn' is so freaking bad off spendy that it's likely costing us at least ten fold whatever your LLPOF NASA is suggesting. But..but...but asteroids are important! Just think..all these nea's and their metals and minerals just sitting there for the taking. We could build all kinds of colonies from them. And just think, all those comets and their water too. Once we get our hands on asteroids and comets, we'll have everything ...everything we have right here on earth. And we'll have all that stuff way the hell out there somewhere. Planting our seeds baby. I mean if you can't make plans for two hundred years from now, why plan for the future at all? Really, who cares what we might accomplish in the next twenty or forty years, when we could spend all our resources, and all our time, laying the groundwork for the twenty third century....instead? I think they call it being visionary, or something, or maybe lunacy, no no wait, it's called the big lie. They paint a pretty picture for us rubes to gawk at. And while we're enjoying their show-and-tell they pic our pockets to line their own. And they laugh ..at us..all the way to the bank. But we still have the dreams they gave us. Colonies and spaceships and all that making the solar system look like LA during rush hour. ya Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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'Dawn' asteroid probe -- highest power ever?
kT wrote: Bill Bonde wrote: Brad Guth wrote: "Jim Oberg" wrote in message The 'Dawn' asteroid mission (June launch) has a 10 kilowatt electrical power system -- is that the highest power level ever for an interplanetary probe? Cassini: 750 watts Galileo: 500 watts Deep Space 1: 2.4 kilowatts And exactly how much birth to grave (including yourself) is that mission costing us? I'd chip in a tener to send you to Venus. Oh look, it's some conservative humor. What did you guys do, hire some liberal comedy consultants? I think the baseline mission is under $500 million, but the extended mission could get costly if these things are as robust as the Mars Rovers. And they should be. I just read they made a fundamental efficiency improvement to the Xenon ion thruster design, variable thrust or some such thing. We need more of these things, not only do we need to identify everything down to the 100 meter level or so, we've got hundreds of larger ones to visit. What we really need to do is fast track a Ceres Reconnaissance Orbiter as a follow up to this mission, and maybe try to get to Pallas too. Some amazing things are out there just waiting to be found. It's a nearby fifth planet that we know very little about. "Conservative humor" is an oxymoron. -- Get A Free Orbiter Space Flight Simulator : http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html |
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"Jonathan" wrote in message
news:u8MEh.18441$z6.4034@bigfe9 But..but...but asteroids are important! Just think..all these nea's and their metals and minerals just sitting there for the taking. We could build all kinds of colonies from them. And just think, all those comets and their water too. Once we get our hands on asteroids and comets, we'll have everything ...everything we have right here on earth. OK boss, if you say so. In the silly mean time we have our very own NEO/NEA as our extremely nearby and horrifically massive moon that's so physically dark and otherwise downright nasty to deal with, and otherwise at merely 100 fold that distance we've got access to absolute butt-loads of other renewable energy, hosting such easy access to all the raw elements and spare renewable energy of whatever Venus has to offer, all at the disposal of most any village idiot moron that's worth half their salt. Really, who cares what we might accomplish in the next twenty or forty years, when we could spend all our resources, and all our time, laying the groundwork for the twenty third century....instead? Now you're talking exactly like a true Old Testament thumping kind of fornacating Republican, or otherwise that of a corrupt Democrat that literally has the hearts and minds of most every soul on Earth stuffed between their infomercial spewing and global polluting butt-cheeks. I think they call it being visionary, or something, or maybe lunacy, no no wait, it's called the big lie. They paint a pretty picture for us rubes to gawk at. And while we're enjoying their show-and-tell they pic our pockets to line their own. And they laugh ..at us..all the way to the bank. That's actually all the way to their offshore tax avoidance banks. But we still have the dreams they gave us. Colonies and spaceships and all that making the solar system look like LA during rush hour. When in LLPOF land (similar to what the Third Reich had within their mindset), you obviously must do whatever it takes for keeping the rest of us village idiot minions as happy campers. Isn't that exactly what our puppet governments and of their faith based puppeteers do best? - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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'Dawn' asteroid probe -- highest power ever?
"kT" wrote in message
Oh look, it's some conservative humor. What did you guys do, hire some liberal comedy consultants? I think the baseline mission is under $500 million, but the extended mission could get costly if these things are as robust as the Mars Rovers. And they should be. I just read they made a fundamental efficiency improvement to the Xenon ion thruster design, variable thrust or some such thing. We need more of these things, not only do we need to identify everything down to the 100 meter level or so, we've got hundreds of larger ones to visit. What we really need to do is fast track a Ceres Reconnaissance Orbiter as a follow up to this mission, and maybe try to get to Pallas too. Some amazing things are out there just waiting to be found. It's a nearby fifth planet that we know very little about. And that effort has put how much food or other life essentials on behalf of the table for sharing with the lower 99.9% of humanity, that obviously can't afford to sustain their current level of surviving as is? So, you'd gladly spend yet another trillion hard earned bucks or euros if you could, no matters what else has to die or get polluted past the point of no return. Way to go kT (aka Hitler). - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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'Dawn' asteroid probe -- highest power ever?
On 26 Feb, 15:42, "Jim Oberg" wrote:
The 'Dawn' asteroid mission (June launch) has a 10 kilowatt electrical power system -- is that the highest power level ever for an interplanetary probe? Cassini: 750 watts Galileo: 500 watts Deep Space 1: 2.4 kilowatts SMART-1 had 2KW. (Is that interplanetary?) 10KW is a lot for a space probe. |
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