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May 22nd 05, 04:28 AM
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Voyage to the Planets and beyond... Discovery Channel
Bad sci-fi at it's worst. The laundry list is so long, it's hard to know
where to begin... First the good.. Some good cgi images.... so much for that... Now the bad.... A truly horrible mix of 20th and near 22 century technology.. I guess this takes place 50 -100 yrs from now... Naturally, they still have to use the Shuttle Atlantis to get to LEO!!!! Guess we just can't retire the damn shuttle... It was clear the producers found that , in terms of crew selection, political correctness was far more important than anybody having the "Right Stuff'... What a bunch of losers! The cast of Gilligan's island would have been a better choice... Every time they land somewhere, within minutes, disaster strikes at every turn... In the far future, they still use plantronics headsets (like the one Nasa and I currently use), and they still have the same quality of communications that the Apollo mission had, with that pesky beep between broadcasts, VOX, but, amazingly, they solved that nagging little problem of the speed of light, and Communication from Jupiter to Earth is real-time....no delays for c on this show... naturally they have to set foot on Venus, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH... at nearly every turn, a robot would have been a better choice... The crew has all the physical conditioning of a group of lymy accountants...But I guess as long as they have British accents, that makes them good choices..... The landing vehicles all look similar to the Mars Lander Estes models rocket I built in the 60's... Since the "astronauts" have the physically conditioning of Stephen hawkings with a bad hang-over, of course they are going to make them crawl up a 30 foot Lander with a 200 lb suit on just in the nick of time to blast off....so many more flaws, but I'll let others through the 2 cents in... If you want to see how not to do human missions in space, this is the show to watch... Glad Stanley Kubrick missed this one...wish I had... Orion 
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May 24th 05, 06:47 AM
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Orion posted:
Bad sci-fi at it's worst. The laundry list is so long, it's hard to know where to begin... Agreed. Things like getting all worried about solar flares when in orbit around Mars, yet sending their "magnetically shielded" ship terribly close to the sun just to get over to Jupiter. Then, the flight through their "crowded" asteroid belt, which amounted to, "OMYGOSH, WE ARE GOING TO HIT THOSE ASTEROIDS!!". Landing a *single* person on Io and THEN going outside? Sheesh! Only THEN did they bother sending a probe down to Europa. It was silly science, with those astronauts finally making a decently logical decision to come home early. Discovery Channel had a chance to do some halfway decent science presentation, but they went back to their overhyped and somewhat questionable fiction. -- David W. Knisely Prairie Astronomy Club: http://www.prairieastronomyclub.org Hyde Memorial Observatory: http://www.hydeobservatory.info/ ********************************************** * Attend the 12th Annual NEBRASKA STAR PARTY * * July 31 - Aug. 5, 2005, Merritt Reservoir * * http://www.NebraskaStarParty.org * **********************************************
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May 24th 05, 07:08 AM
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Orion wrote:
Bad sci-fi at it's worst. The laundry list is so long, it's hard to know where to begin... First the good.. Some good cgi images.... so much for that... Now the bad.... A truly horrible mix of 20th and near 22 century technology.. I guess this takes place 50 -100 yrs from now... Naturally, they still have to use the Shuttle Atlantis to get to LEO!!!! Guess we just can't retire the damn shuttle... It was clear the producers found that , in terms of crew selection, political correctness was far more important than anybody having the "Right Stuff'... What a bunch of losers! The cast of Gilligan's island would have been a better choice... Every time they land somewhere, within minutes, disaster strikes at every turn... In the far future, they still use plantronics headsets (like the one Nasa and I currently use), and they still have the same quality of communications that the Apollo mission had, with that pesky beep between broadcasts, VOX, but, amazingly, they solved that nagging little problem of the speed of light, and Communication from Jupiter to Earth is real-time....no delays for c on this show... naturally they have to set foot on Venus, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH... at nearly every turn, a robot would have been a better choice... The crew has all the physical conditioning of a group of lymy accountants...But I guess as long as they have British accents, that makes them good choices..... The landing vehicles all look similar to the Mars Lander Estes models rocket I built in the 60's... Since the "astronauts" have the physically conditioning of Stephen hawkings with a bad hang-over, of course they are going to make them crawl up a 30 foot Lander with a 200 lb suit on just in the nick of time to blast off....so many more flaws, but I'll let others through the 2 cents in... If you want to see how not to do human missions in space, this is the show to watch... Glad Stanley Kubrick missed this one...wish I had... Orion What did you all think of their other program "Alien Planet" was it called? The one where they send an unmanned mission to "Darwin 4". Eric
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May 24th 05, 07:27 AM
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After seeing the marathon showing on the Discovery Channel, I whole
heartedly agree. Solo landing on Titan, a solo space walk into Saturn's rings, comet fragments blasting the ship's hull that should have left that spacecraft in a million pieces. To even go to Jupiter and conduct an aero-brake is risky with all that radiation it's dumping out. Astronauts disobeying instructions and cutting communications to Mission control was done on Skylab and as one other person indicated on Amazon.com on Apollo 7. This wasn't the first time comm was willing cut as the film indicated. If this all really happened, this would be the first and last manned missions to the planets. I wonder if there was a hidden agenda to show the hazards of manned missions and the benefits of robotic missions. In the end, not to continue the mission and to run home with their nose bloody and their tails between their legs was also a disappointment. The film gave me the feeling that man was not meant to explore the planets in person. That manned missions wasn't worth it. Love the CGI shots. Too bad the story ruined it. Orion wrote: Bad sci-fi at it's worst. The laundry list is so long, it's hard to know where to begin... First the good.. Some good cgi images.... so much for that... Now the bad.... A truly horrible mix of 20th and near 22 century technology.. I guess this takes place 50 -100 yrs from now... Naturally, they still have to use the Shuttle Atlantis to get to LEO!!!! Guess we just can't retire the damn shuttle... It was clear the producers found that , in terms of crew selection, political correctness was far more important than anybody having the "Right Stuff'... What a bunch of losers! The cast of Gilligan's island would have been a better choice... Every time they land somewhere, within minutes, disaster strikes at every turn... In the far future, they still use plantronics headsets (like the one Nasa and I currently use), and they still have the same quality of communications that the Apollo mission had, with that pesky beep between broadcasts, VOX, but, amazingly, they solved that nagging little problem of the speed of light, and Communication from Jupiter to Earth is real-time....no delays for c on this show... naturally they have to set foot on Venus, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH... at nearly every turn, a robot would have been a better choice... The crew has all the physical conditioning of a group of lymy accountants...But I guess as long as they have British accents, that makes them good choices..... The landing vehicles all look similar to the Mars Lander Estes models rocket I built in the 60's... Since the "astronauts" have the physically conditioning of Stephen hawkings with a bad hang-over, of course they are going to make them crawl up a 30 foot Lander with a 200 lb suit on just in the nick of time to blast off....so many more flaws, but I'll let others through the 2 cents in... If you want to see how not to do human missions in space, this is the show to watch... Glad Stanley Kubrick missed this one...wish I had... Orion
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May 24th 05, 03:11 PM
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"Dark Guardian" wrote in message ...
After seeing the marathon showing on the Discovery Channel, I whole heartedly agree. Solo landing on Titan, a solo space walk into Saturn's rings, comet fragments blasting the ship's hull that should have left that spacecraft in a million pieces. I wonder if there was a hidden agenda to show the hazards of manned missions and the benefits of robotic missions. Man, now that's paranoia. Hollywood "science" faire is full of scenes where asteroids swarm like flocks of birds and star ships pass through nebula that are opaque as a London fog. Then there are the sounds of roaring engines, booming explosions, etc. If there's an agenda it's to get you to watch the commercials. -- Hilton Evans --------------------------------------------------------------- Lon -71° 04' 35.3" Lat +42° 11' 06.7" --------------------------------------------------------------- Webcam Astroimaging http://home.earthlink.net/~hiltoneva...troimaging.htm --------------------------------------------------------------- ChemPen Chemical Structure Software http://www.chempensoftware.com
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May 24th 05, 03:19 PM
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Do you mean to say that the Discovery Channel actually ran some science
programming (like they used to do) for a change, instead of shows about rednecks arguing and building motorcycles, or people painting the walls of their house a different color?! Well, if so, I missed it, because I haven't watched the Discovery Channel, which used to be my favorite network, for about three years now.
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May 24th 05, 04:09 PM
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May 24th 05, 05:32 PM
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One definition of "Dark Age" is a period of time where people not only
lose the knowledge of how something is done, they forget that is was even possible to do it. Mass media, television and video games are pushing us in that direction. Tom Polakis wrote: wrote: Do you mean to say that the Discovery Channel actually ran some science programming (like they used to do) for a change, instead of shows about rednecks arguing and building motorcycles, or people painting the walls of their house a different color?! Agreed. I can't remember one redeeming show out of Discovery Channel in the past year. Did I miss any of them? And Lowell Observatory's planned 4-meter telescope is the Discovery Channel Telescope! Well, I'm sure they'll take the funding however it comes. Tom
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May 24th 05, 06:07 PM
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Don't forget the spacecraft that stop when the engines stop! Also the
direction of the exhaust flame when approaching aonother object. -- Why isn't there an Ozone Hole at the NORTH Pole?
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May 26th 05, 06:42 AM
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Orion wrote: Bad sci-fi at it's worst. The laundry list is so long, it's hard to know where to begin... First the good.. Some good cgi images.... so much for that... Now the bad.... A truly horrible mix of 20th and near 22 century technology.. I guess this takes place 50 -100 yrs from now... Naturally, they still have to use the Shuttle Atlantis to get to LEO!!!! Guess we just can't retire the damn shuttle... Next to Jesus its the Shuttle! Worship the Skuttle!
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