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Old June 13th 09, 06:18 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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Old June 13th 09, 07:41 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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Yes, listening to the press conf, I think all are puzzled by the hydrogen
leak again, in that same place, which is allowing hydrogen to accumulate
inside the outer part of that disconnect.

As was mentioned, the last time it occurred it had also been on a vehicle
which had had it mated and demated. They never found a cause before, yet
something is going on.

Weird.

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Old June 13th 09, 11:53 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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skyguy bracht volgend idée uit :
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/new...thewritestuff/


Is the term 'scrubbed' usually used for the launces taken of the
manifest??
On www.nasa.gov/shuttle the term 'posponed' is used... can somone tell
me the difference?

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Old June 13th 09, 12:09 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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André wrote:
skyguy bracht volgend idée uit :
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/new...thewritestuff/


Is the term 'scrubbed' usually used for the launces taken of the
manifest??
On www.nasa.gov/shuttle the term 'posponed' is used... can somone tell
me the difference?


I was under the impression that "scrubbed" applied when cancellation
happens when launch procedures have gone beyond a certain point and
require they be undone (for instance, if ET is fueled, it needs to be
drained).

Postponed would be more of schedule change and they may not need to undo
any of the preparations done so far. (unless they need to roll it back
to VAB for fixes).
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Old June 13th 09, 01:00 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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Walter Cronkite used to say launch scrubbed today during apollo

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Old June 13th 09, 06:45 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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Op 13-6-2009, heeft John Doe verondersteld :
André wrote:
skyguy bracht volgend idée uit :
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/new...thewritestuff/


Is the term 'scrubbed' usually used for the launces taken of the
manifest??
On www.nasa.gov/shuttle the term 'posponed' is used... can somone tell
me the difference?


I was under the impression that "scrubbed" applied when cancellation
happens when launch procedures have gone beyond a certain point and
require they be undone (for instance, if ET is fueled, it needs to be
drained).


Postponed would be more of schedule change and they may not need to undo
any of the preparations done so far. (unless they need to roll it back
to VAB for fixes).


Thanks.. I did not thinkt this way.

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Old June 13th 09, 07:24 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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I do not know the origins, but I've had many meetings 'scrubbed' by emails
saying that very word. It is intriguing how scrubbed has come to mean the
current operation has been scrapped but may be occurring at another time.

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skyguy bracht volgend idée uit :
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Is the term 'scrubbed' usually used for the launces taken of the
manifest??
On www.nasa.gov/shuttle the term 'posponed' is used... can somone tell me
the difference?

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Old June 13th 09, 07:26 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle
Brian Gaff
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Still does not explain the derivation though.

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Op 13-6-2009, heeft John Doe verondersteld :
André wrote:
skyguy bracht volgend idée uit :
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/new...thewritestuff/

Is the term 'scrubbed' usually used for the launces taken of the
manifest??
On www.nasa.gov/shuttle the term 'posponed' is used... can somone tell
me the difference?


I was under the impression that "scrubbed" applied when cancellation
happens when launch procedures have gone beyond a certain point and
require they be undone (for instance, if ET is fueled, it needs to be
drained).


Postponed would be more of schedule change and they may not need to undo
any of the preparations done so far. (unless they need to roll it back
to VAB for fixes).


Thanks.. I did not thinkt this way.

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As Drent Binj altied Stoned Umdaj Tuschen Hunebedden Woont




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Old June 14th 09, 04:11 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:53:02 +0200, André, PE1PQX
wrote:


Is the term 'scrubbed' usually used for the launces taken of the
manifest??


No, because that has been exceedingly rare.

On www.nasa.gov/shuttle the term 'posponed' is used... can somone tell
me the difference?


"Scrubbed" I think comes from World War II Army Air Force, when the
day's mission/target would be written in chalk on a blackboard for air
crews and the like. If weather or some other factor caused the mission
to be cancelled, the blackboard would be wiped off, or "scrubbed".

Launches that are aborted for weather or technical problems have been
called 'scrubs' since at least the Mercury days. Launches that have
been totally abandoned, such as STS-41E are generally just called
"cancelled missions".

Brian
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Old June 14th 09, 05:11 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle
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a.com, Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:26:10, Brian Gaff
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Still does not explain the derivation though.


Perhaps from scrubbing a chalked wartime mission off the blackboard.

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