Something for Androcles

http://www.npr.org/2014/11/03/361069...-as-we-know-it


"The relative nature of time isn't just something seen in the extreme. If
you take a clock off the floor, and hang it on the wall, Ye says, "the time
will speed up by about one part in 1016."
That is a sliver of a second. But this isn't some effect of gravity on the
clock's machinery. Time itself is flowing more quickly on the wall than on
the floor. These differences didn't really matter until now. But this new
clock is so sensitive, little changes in height throw it way off. Lift it
just a couple of centimeters, Ye says, "and you will start to see that
difference."

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:39:12 +0000 (UTC), Mike Collins
wrote this crap:

http://www.npr.org/2014/11/03/361069...-as-we-know-it


"The relative nature of time isn't just something seen in the extreme. If
you take a clock off the floor, and hang it on the wall, Ye says, "the time
will speed up by about one part in 1016."
That is a sliver of a second. But this isn't some effect of gravity on the
clock's machinery. Time itself is flowing more quickly on the wall than on
the floor. These differences didn't really matter until now. But this new
clock is so sensitive, little changes in height throw it way off. Lift it
just a couple of centimeters, Ye says, "and you will start to see that
difference."

Yup. Time is relative. Anyone who watches football knows it.


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Lord Vath wrote:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:39:12 +0000 (UTC), Mike Collins
wrote this crap:

http://www.npr.org/2014/11/03/361069...-as-we-know-it


"The relative nature of time isn't just something seen in the extreme. If
you take a clock off the floor, and hang it on the wall, Ye says, "the time
will speed up by about one part in 1016."
That is a sliver of a second. But this isn't some effect of gravity on the
clock's machinery. Time itself is flowing more quickly on the wall than on
the floor. These differences didn't really matter until now. But this new
clock is so sensitive, little changes in height throw it way off. Lift it
just a couple of centimeters, Ye says, "and you will start to see that
difference."

Yup. Time is relative. Anyone who watches football knows it.


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It's difficult to measure the time passing in American football because
play stops so often you've fallen asleep out of boredom.

Mike Collins wrote:
http://www.npr.org/2014/11/03/361069...-as-we-know-it


"The relative nature of time isn't just something seen in the extreme. If
you take a clock off the floor, and hang it on the wall, Ye says, "the time
will speed up by about one part in 1016."
That is a sliver of a second. But this isn't some effect of gravity on the
clock's machinery. Time itself is flowing more quickly on the wall than on
the floor. These differences didn't really matter until now. But this new
clock is so sensitive, little changes in height throw it way off. Lift it
just a couple of centimeters, Ye says, "and you will start to see that
difference."

That should be 10 to the power 16 but it didn't copy correctly.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 19:08:27 +0000 (UTC), Mike Collins
wrote this crap:

Lord Vath wrote:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:39:12 +0000 (UTC), Mike Collins
wrote this crap:

http://www.npr.org/2014/11/03/361069...-as-we-know-it


"The relative nature of time isn't just something seen in the extreme. If
you take a clock off the floor, and hang it on the wall, Ye says, "the time
will speed up by about one part in 1016."
That is a sliver of a second. But this isn't some effect of gravity on the
clock's machinery. Time itself is flowing more quickly on the wall than on
the floor. These differences didn't really matter until now. But this new
clock is so sensitive, little changes in height throw it way off. Lift it
just a couple of centimeters, Ye says, "and you will start to see that
difference."

Yup. Time is relative. Anyone who watches football knows it.


It's difficult to measure the time passing in American football because
play stops so often you've fallen asleep out of boredom.

Just because we don't have bloody riots doesn't mean it's not
exciting. Anybody can run around kicking a round ball.


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On Monday, November 10, 2014 5:39:25 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
http://www.npr.org/2014/11/03/361069...-as-we-know-it


"The relative nature of time isn't just something seen in the extreme.

That voodoo is for the poor indoctrinated guys who never understood Newton's agenda nor wanted to understand it notwithstanding that the whole issue of absolute/relative time is built around an actual astronomical facility known as the Equation of Time -

"Absolute time, in astronomy, is distinguished from relative, by the equation of time. For the natural days are truly unequal, though they are commonly considered as equal and used for a measure of time; astronomers correct this inequality for their more accurate deducing of the celestial motions.The necessity of which equation, for determining the times of a phćnomenon, is evinced as well from the experiments of the pendulum clock, as by eclipses of the satellites of Jupiter." Newton

The interesting part is not that Newton is talking through his hat as usual but that the original technical arrangement by Huygens is incorrect and doesn't work -

"Here take notice, that the Sun or the Earth passes the 12 Signs or makes an entire revolution in the Ecliptic in 365 days, 5 hours 49 min. or there about, and that those days, reckon'd from noon to noon, are of different lenghts; as is known to all that are versed in Astronomy. Now between the longest and the shortest of those days, a day may be taken of such a length, as 365 such days, 5. hours &c. (the same numbers as before) make up, or are equal to that revolution: And this is called the Equal or Mean day, according to which the Watches are to be set; and therefore the Hour or Minute showed by the Watches, though they be perfectly just and equal, must needs differ almost continually from those that are shew'd by the Sun, or are reckon'd according to its Motion. But this Difference is regular, and is otherwise called the Equation of Time." Huygens

http://adcs.home.xs4all.nl/Huygens/06/kort-E.html

There is a difference between time and timekeeping for the latter uses external cyclical references which can be easily demonstrated and explained to people who really wish to recognize the roots of human innovation in timekeeping.

Were things normal the discussion would be centered around the troublesome use of the Sun through the Zodiac as Huygens, in line with his contemporaries, uses it instead of the core structure which is based around the annual motion of the stars behind the Sun which was the observation which created the extra day system after 4 years which eventually translates into the number of rotations per orbital circuit. Huygens approach doesn't work for a number of reasons centered around the Equation of Time and the difference between the average 24 hour day and constant rotation via the Lat/Long system..

Relativity is a product of its time, a poor attempt to escape the clockwork solar system and its celestial sphere structure while trying to retain the 'predictive' feature of empiricism but it was always a worthless pursuit based on jargon and not much else.