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Androcles' constant
Examine this simple distance/time graph.
http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF Photons are emitted at regular intervals (dt) at the bottom and travel through space with the velocity c+v.cos(yaw).cos(pitch) to arrive at the top with a separation of dT, where yaw is 0 to 2pi and pitch is the fixed angle of inclination of the star's orbit. By inspection it is clear that the rate of photon arrival is inversely proportional to dT, so luminosity = omicron * dt/dT. |
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On 30 Jan, 00:04, "Androcles" wrote:
Examine this simple distance/time graph. *http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF Photons are emitted at regular intervals (dt) at the bottom and travel through space with the velocity c+v.cos(yaw).cos(pitch) to arrive at the top with a separation of dT, where yaw is 0 to 2pi and pitch is the fixed angle of inclination of the star's orbit. By inspection it is clear that the rate of photon arrival is inversely proportional to dT, so luminosity = omicron * dt/dT. You know the title to this thread is unfortunate, because there cannot be a more risible word in physics than the word "constant" - (the worst of which, incidentally, is the so-called "cosmological constant" which is made to sound even funnier because of the alliteration). What is it you're actually trying to describe/explain anyway? |
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Androcles' correct
Androcles wrote:
Examine this simple distance/time graph. http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF I'd be much more interested in seeing Androcles correct more often! A much rarer event. |
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"Jim Newman" wrote in message ... Androcles wrote: Examine this simple distance/time graph. http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF Photons are emitted at regular intervals (dt) at the bottom and travel through space with the velocity c+v.cos(yaw).cos(pitch) to arrive at the top with a separation of dT, where yaw is 0 to 2pi and pitch is the fixed angle of inclination of the star's orbit. By inspection it is clear that the rate of photon arrival is inversely proportional to dT, so luminosity = omicron * dt/dT. I'd be much more interested in seeing Androcles correct more often! A much rarer event. I'd be much more interested in seeing snipping lid keep the same name for more than day, but at least he acknowledges my correctness. |
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Androcles' constant
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:04:20 -0000, "Androcles"
wrote: Examine this simple distance/time graph. http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF Photons are emitted at regular intervals (dt) at the bottom and travel through space with the velocity c+v.cos(yaw).cos(pitch) to arrive at the top with a separation of dT, where yaw is 0 to 2pi and pitch is the fixed angle of inclination of the star's orbit. By inspection it is clear that the rate of photon arrival is inversely proportional to dT, so luminosity = omicron * dt/dT. I realise you are looking for an argument by publishing this nonsense. You have LOST THE PLOT! Henry Wilson... ........provider of free physics lessons |
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"Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in message ... On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:04:20 -0000, "Androcles" wrote: Examine this simple distance/time graph. http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF Photons are emitted at regular intervals (dt) at the bottom and travel through space with the velocity c+v.cos(yaw).cos(pitch) to arrive at the top with a separation of dT, where yaw is 0 to 2pi and pitch is the fixed angle of inclination of the star's orbit. By inspection it is clear that the rate of photon arrival is inversely proportional to dT, so luminosity = omicron * dt/dT. I realise you are looking for an argument by publishing this nonsense. You have LOST THE PLOT! Not I. It is in fact what I used in the Excel version, any nonsense is all in your drink. http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...Lightcurve.xls You are jealous because you don't have a constant named for you. Omicron is MINE! Bwhahahahahaha! |
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Androcles' constant
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:54:13 -0000, "Androcles"
wrote: "Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in message .. . On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:04:20 -0000, "Androcles" wrote: Examine this simple distance/time graph. http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF Photons are emitted at regular intervals (dt) at the bottom and travel through space with the velocity c+v.cos(yaw).cos(pitch) to arrive at the top with a separation of dT, where yaw is 0 to 2pi and pitch is the fixed angle of inclination of the star's orbit. By inspection it is clear that the rate of photon arrival is inversely proportional to dT, so luminosity = omicron * dt/dT. I realise you are looking for an argument by publishing this nonsense. You have LOST THE PLOT! Not I. It is in fact what I used in the Excel version, any nonsense is all in your drink. http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...Lightcurve.xls You are jealous because you don't have a constant named for you. Omicron is MINE! Bwhahahahahaha! I have three planets....Wilsonias 1, 2 and 3 Now seriously, what were you trying to say in your OM? Henry Wilson... ........provider of free physics lessons |
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"Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in message ... On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:54:13 -0000, "Androcles" wrote: "Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in message . .. On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:04:20 -0000, "Androcles" wrote: Examine this simple distance/time graph. http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF Photons are emitted at regular intervals (dt) at the bottom and travel through space with the velocity c+v.cos(yaw).cos(pitch) to arrive at the top with a separation of dT, where yaw is 0 to 2pi and pitch is the fixed angle of inclination of the star's orbit. By inspection it is clear that the rate of photon arrival is inversely proportional to dT, so luminosity = omicron * dt/dT. I realise you are looking for an argument by publishing this nonsense. You have LOST THE PLOT! Not I. It is in fact what I used in the Excel version, any nonsense is all in your drink. http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...Lightcurve.xls You are jealous because you don't have a constant named for you. Omicron is MINE! Bwhahahahahaha! I have three planets....Wilsonias 1, 2 and 3 You can have all the planets you like except Androcles, Cassandra and Wendy. http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Wendy/Wendy.htm I have a luminosity constant omicron as well, that's all. Now seriously, what were you trying to say in your OM? Photons bunch together when bright or spread apart when dim. Therefore a lot of them arrive in a very short time when the star appears bright, few arrive over a longer time when the star appears dim. So there is an inverse relationship between the time between photons arriving and the apparent brightness, and a direct relationship if more are sent each second. Hence luminosity = omicron * dt/dT. You still need to apply the logarithm to display it as magnitude, but that's only because our eyes are logarithmic. |
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On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:10:26 -0000, "Androcles"
wrote: "Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in message .. . On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:54:13 -0000, "Androcles" Examine this simple distance/time graph. http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF Photons are emitted at regular intervals (dt) at the bottom and travel through space with the velocity c+v.cos(yaw).cos(pitch) to arrive at the top with a separation of dT, where yaw is 0 to 2pi and pitch is the fixed angle of inclination of the star's orbit. By inspection it is clear that the rate of photon arrival is inversely proportional to dT, so luminosity = omicron * dt/dT. I realise you are looking for an argument by publishing this nonsense. You have LOST THE PLOT! Not I. It is in fact what I used in the Excel version, any nonsense is all in your drink. http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...Lightcurve.xls You are jealous because you don't have a constant named for you. Omicron is MINE! Bwhahahahahaha! I have three planets....Wilsonias 1, 2 and 3 You can have all the planets you like except Androcles, Cassandra and Wendy. http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Wendy/Wendy.htm I have a luminosity constant omicron as well, that's all. I think Algol is a genuine eclipsing star. The BaTh curves have a slight downward curvature between the two major 'dips', as in http://www.scisite.info/ucep.jpg Now seriously, what were you trying to say in your OM? Photons bunch together when bright or spread apart when dim. This is another way of looking at ADoppler. If you consider the whole photon stream as resembling a wave, the 'wavelength' bunches together in the same way as th photons. Therefore the wavelength curve should resemble the brightness curve...which is what is observed in many instances. See this: http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/f...00275.000.html written before Einstein stuffed up the world. (Top of page and previous page) Therefore a lot of them arrive in a very short time when the star appears bright, few arrive over a longer time when the star appears dim. So there is an inverse relationship between the time between photons arriving and the apparent brightness, and a direct relationship if more are sent each second. Hence luminosity = omicron * dt/dT. Presumably, the star's luminosity is constant....and so is the rate at which photons are sent. You still need to apply the logarithm to display it as magnitude, but that's only because our eyes are logarithmic. Henry Wilson... ........provider of free physics lessons |
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"Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in message ... On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:10:26 -0000, "Androcles" wrote: "Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in message . .. On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:54:13 -0000, "Androcles" Examine this simple distance/time graph. http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF Photons are emitted at regular intervals (dt) at the bottom and travel through space with the velocity c+v.cos(yaw).cos(pitch) to arrive at the top with a separation of dT, where yaw is 0 to 2pi and pitch is the fixed angle of inclination of the star's orbit. By inspection it is clear that the rate of photon arrival is inversely proportional to dT, so luminosity = omicron * dt/dT. I realise you are looking for an argument by publishing this nonsense. You have LOST THE PLOT! Not I. It is in fact what I used in the Excel version, any nonsense is all in your drink. http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...Lightcurve.xls You are jealous because you don't have a constant named for you. Omicron is MINE! Bwhahahahahaha! I have three planets....Wilsonias 1, 2 and 3 You can have all the planets you like except Androcles, Cassandra and Wendy. http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Wendy/Wendy.htm I have a luminosity constant omicron as well, that's all. I think Algol is a genuine eclipsing star. If you saw someone in a red suit you are daft enough to ask him if the elves were busy making toys and has Rudolph got over his cold yet? Here's why Santa CANNOT come down chimneys: http://www.dkimages.com/discover/pre...3/65018019.JPG The BaTh curves have a slight downward curvature between the two major 'dips', as in http://www.scisite.info/ucep.jpg As in my 1992 version of Copernicus.exe under "Samples", which you've managed to duplicate after many years of struggling. Here's why Algol CANNOT be eclipsing: http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...golEclipse.JPG In 1850, the French astronomer E. A. Roche (1820 - 1883) stated "no satellite can exist closer to a planet than 2.44x its radius or 1.44x from its surface." If a satellite or comet that is held together solely by its gravitational force (no tensile strength) passes within the planet's Roche limit, it will break apart. Our two stars have no tensile strength, they are gases. The surface to surface separation is 2.56 radii. Now seriously, what were you trying to say in your OM? Photons bunch together when bright or spread apart when dim. This is another way of looking at ADoppler. If you consider the whole photon stream as resembling a wave, the 'wavelength' bunches together in the same way as th photons. Therefore the wavelength curve should resemble the brightness curve...which is what is observed in many instances. See this: http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/f...00275.000.html written before Einstein stuffed up the world. (Top of page and previous page) Those curves are the correct shape but misleading, they are not actually in phase even though they've been drawn as if they are. Ask yourself this. As seen from Earth, which part of the star's orbit has the greatest c+v velocity? Think carefully, don't knee-jerk. Now that you are thinking in terms of waves, W Sag has more than one planet. This demo has fixed end points, but it easily demonstrates why: http://tinyurl.com/cugpd Turn on the 3rd, 4th and 5th harmonics only, 1st and 2nd OFF. As the wave moves, at one point you should see the curve of W Sag. Perhaps now you'll understand why I'm picky about end-points, they need to connect together and allowed to float up and down. If you bodge and take shortcuts it'll come back and bite you in the arse. Therefore a lot of them arrive in a very short time when the star appears bright, few arrive over a longer time when the star appearsdim. So there is an inverse relationship between the time between photons arriving and the apparent brightness, and a direct relationship if more are sent each second. Hence luminosity = omicron * dt/dT. Presumably, the star's luminosity is constant....and so is the rate at which photons are sent. Correct, but they don't arrive at a constant rate. http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF That is why V 1493 Aql is important. It's 1999 belch (or one like it) was predicted, by me in 1987, twelve years before it happened. I was working on SN 1987 at the time and my program was DOS. I scrapped it because I didn't think I could reproduce Algol, but I was WRONG and I did that in 1992 in Windows, with the program you have now, Copernicus.exe - 18 years old and still going strong. http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...s/image021.jpg And it was an 18-year-old kid that stuffed up Einstein... John Goodricke, dead at age 22. "This night looked at Beta-Persei (Algol) and was much amazed to find its brightness altered. It now appears to be fourth magnitude... I observed it diligently for about an hour upwards...hardly believing that it changed its brightness, because I had never heard of any star varying so quick in its brightness. I thought it might be perhaps owing to an optical illusion, a defect in my eyes or bad air, but the sequel will show that its change is true and that it was not mistaken." (John Goodricke, journal entry November 12, 1782) Goodricke invented the binary. That's how errors propagate. |
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