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Old July 18th 07, 03:15 AM posted to sci.skeptic,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,alt.astronomy.solar,uk.philosophy.atheism,uk.sci.misc
sdr
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Default Proof Of Evolution.

Proof Of Evolution.

On Jul 15, 2:36 am, Pastor Dave
wrote to someone:

You have given zero proof of macroevolution
and that is what you need to prove and can't.
Bugs staying bugs does not equal "goo to you".
Nor does falsely labeling me do anything but
prove your true intent. Pastor Dave


Everything that exists is an evolution.
From ideas to creatures to rocks to atoms and

stars: Everything without a single exception.

This is how it is possible to KNOW that any
and all proposals which exclude the evolutionary
process from ANYTHING is self-evident proof
in-and-of-itself that such a proposal is flawed
AND therefore partly or entirely wrong.

Existence is absolutely deterministic. Otherwise
physical impossibilities become not only possible
but almost inevitable. We become a realm of magic!

I know that theists believe in nothing BUT magic.
And that therefore reason and logic, even the most
obvious and self-evident proofs & facts are of no
use to counter their mental illness (for it is not
unlike a madness, this unreasonable conviction
that deists have that existence is everywhere awash
in evidence of magic all around us). This sickness
even permeates into science and retards/thwarts it.

The classical historical example is when Galileo
showed his telescope to the Pope. Dogma said that
the heavens were perfect and only the earth was
corrupt... and that because we were God's special
creation the universe circled the earth:

IF but looking upon the truth were enough to
convince one of its rightness, surely the Pope would
be instantly convinced when he looked through his
telescope and saw the pox-faced Moon... and all
sorts of heavenly bodies circling NOT the earth but
Jupiter and other mere planets!

But, the Pope looked, and the Pope saw, and the
Pope had to admit to Galileo that he was seeing what
he was seeing. And then, as we all know, the Pope
showed Galileo the instruments of torture which he
threatened to use on him if he did not publicly say
that it was Dogma that was true and NOT what their
eyes were seeing.

It is a social sickness, a mental illness from which
human beings suffer no end.

But I will persist, none-the-less, and mention in
passing the evolution of pathogens which is killing
a whole lot of atheists and theists alike: By the
simplest laws of Darwinian adaptation of the fittest
pathogens which used to kill us in great numbers
were "conquered" by our discovery of antibiotics.

We literally "flushed" the deadly pathogens from
our system and kept them out by a great flood of
antibiotics... forgetting that evolution and not God
or even all our human efforts is what rules the
universe.

Well, we DID kill most of the deadly pathogens, but
the survivors "adapted" to the new environment of
antibiotics. And now the "evolved" pathogens are
returning the state of affairs to the way it used to
be before our discovery of antibiotics--With an ironic
twist: because the newly evolved pathogens actually
thrive in a body flushed with antibiotics, giving
those antibiotics to people sickened with such
pathogens actually makes things worst than were
they not given any antibiotics at all! (We can still
invent newer antibiotics, of course, but evolution
will ensure that the matter will always rest where it
has always rested: in a never-ending arms-race
between living organisms to see which wins the
reproduction race. I have my money on the worst
bugs, whether that turn out to be they or us.)

Ignore the truth of evolution at your own peril.

In the case of H.I.V. research, there was also a
curious instance in which evolution can be seen
playing a quite dramatic role:

Researchers were able to kill off a large percentage
of the AIDS virus (it doesn't matter which for this
example) with a heavy concoction of drugs, and
patients seemed to thrive. But then they began to
sicken again. Stubborn as people are, and doctors
are people too, they persisted on the regimen of
drugs being administered. With sad consequences.

Then some patients decided, on their own, to stop
taking the cocktail of drugs; and actually improved
without any drugs. But it was not magic, it was
evolution at work:

The original viruses were killed (suppressed) by the
cocktail of drugs... leaving only those viruses best
"adapted" to an environment flushed with the drugs
cocktail to "reproduce." Then, when the drugs were
removed, those viruses "best adapted" to live in an
environment without the drugs "replaced" the newly-
evolved viruses. And we go back to the same old
arms-race that evolution has unleashed upon this
earth since its beginnings, worlds without end.

But don't despair: Life is impossible without death.
It may be a great tragedy to the individual, but
death ensures that every generation of creatures is
the best adapted to survive in whatever existence
this planet offers--Something which is completely
unpredictable: Therefore, were it the case that life
depended on some well-thought-out plan, instead of
on blind evolution, I simply cannot imagine how on
earth life might have avoided some catastrophically
stupid blunder long before now and killed itself...
rather than waiting for something to kill it (as it
now does with simply stunning success). [sic.]

S D Rodrian
http://poems.sdrodrian.com
http://physics.sdrodrian.com
http://mp3s.sdrodrian.com

All religions are local.
Only science is universal.

  #2  
Old July 19th 07, 09:33 AM posted to sci.skeptic,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,alt.astronomy.solar,uk.philosophy.atheism,uk.sci.misc
Rudolf Drabek
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Default Proof Of Evolution.

On 18 Jul., 04:15, sdr wrote:
Proof Of Evolution.

On Jul 15, 2:36 am, Pastor Dave
wrote to someone:

You have given zero proof of macroevolution
and that is what you need to prove and can't.
Bugs staying bugs does not equal "goo to you".
Nor does falsely labeling me do anything but
prove your true intent. Pastor Dave


Everything that exists is an evolution.From ideas to creatures to rocks to atoms and

stars: Everything without a single exception.

This is how it is possible to KNOW that any
and all proposals which exclude the evolutionary
process from ANYTHING is self-evident proof
in-and-of-itself that such a proposal is flawed
AND therefore partly or entirely wrong.

Existence is absolutely deterministic. Otherwise
physical impossibilities become not only possible
but almost inevitable. We become a realm of magic!

I know that theists believe in nothing BUT magic.
And that therefore reason and logic, even the most
obvious and self-evident proofs & facts are of no
use to counter their mental illness (for it is not
unlike a madness, this unreasonable conviction
that deists have that existence is everywhere awash
in evidence of magic all around us). This sickness
even permeates into science and retards/thwarts it.

The classical historical example is when Galileo
showed his telescope to the Pope. Dogma said that
the heavens were perfect and only the earth was
corrupt... and that because we were God's special
creation the universe circled the earth:

IF but looking upon the truth were enough to
convince one of its rightness, surely the Pope would
be instantly convinced when he looked through his
telescope and saw the pox-faced Moon... and all
sorts of heavenly bodies circling NOT the earth but
Jupiter and other mere planets!

But, the Pope looked, and the Pope saw, and the
Pope had to admit to Galileo that he was seeing what
he was seeing. And then, as we all know, the Pope
showed Galileo the instruments of torture which he
threatened to use on him if he did not publicly say
that it was Dogma that was true and NOT what their
eyes were seeing.

It is a social sickness, a mental illness from which
human beings suffer no end.

But I will persist, none-the-less, and mention in
passing the evolution of pathogens which is killing
a whole lot of atheists and theists alike: By the
simplest laws of Darwinian adaptation of the fittest
pathogens which used to kill us in great numbers
were "conquered" by our discovery of antibiotics.

We literally "flushed" the deadly pathogens from
our system and kept them out by a great flood of
antibiotics... forgetting that evolution and not God
or even all our human efforts is what rules the
universe.

Well, we DID kill most of the deadly pathogens, but
the survivors "adapted" to the new environment of
antibiotics. And now the "evolved" pathogens are
returning the state of affairs to the way it used to
be before our discovery of antibiotics--With an ironic
twist: because the newly evolved pathogens actually
thrive in a body flushed with antibiotics, giving
those antibiotics to people sickened with such
pathogens actually makes things worst than were
they not given any antibiotics at all! (We can still
invent newer antibiotics, of course, but evolution
will ensure that the matter will always rest where it
has always rested: in a never-ending arms-race
between living organisms to see which wins the
reproduction race. I have my money on the worst
bugs, whether that turn out to be they or us.)

Ignore the truth of evolution at your own peril.

In the case of H.I.V. research, there was also a
curious instance in which evolution can be seen
playing a quite dramatic role:

Researchers were able to kill off a large percentage
of the AIDS virus (it doesn't matter which for this
example) with a heavy concoction of drugs, and
patients seemed to thrive. But then they began to
sicken again. Stubborn as people are, and doctors
are people too, they persisted on the regimen of
drugs being administered. With sad consequences.

Then some patients decided, on their own, to stop
taking the cocktail of drugs; and actually improved
without any drugs. But it was not magic, it was
evolution at work:

The original viruses were killed (suppressed) by the
cocktail of drugs... leaving only those viruses best
"adapted" to an environment flushed with the drugs
cocktail to "reproduce." Then, when the drugs were
removed, those viruses "best adapted" to live in an
environment without the drugs "replaced" the newly-
evolved viruses. And we go back to the same old
arms-race that evolution has unleashed upon this
earth since its beginnings, worlds without end.

But don't despair: Life is impossible without death.
It may be a great tragedy to the individual, but
death ensures that every generation of creatures is
the best adapted to survive in whatever existence
this planet offers--Something which is completely
unpredictable: Therefore, were it the case that life
depended on some well-thought-out plan, instead of
on blind evolution, I simply cannot imagine how on
earth life might have avoided some catastrophically
stupid blunder long before now and killed itself...
rather than waiting for something to kill it (as it
now does with simply stunning success). [sic.]

S D Rodrianhttp://poems.sdrodrian.comhttp://physics.sdrodrian.comhttp://mp3s.sdrodrian.com

All religions are local.
Only science is universal.


Agree on many lines of yr post.
Who has made the rules ?

But if you see no rules in nature, your life is not more that a random
event, which has no sense.
It would be interesting for me to hear from you what you think about
the sense of your life.

  #3  
Old July 19th 07, 09:36 AM posted to sci.skeptic,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,alt.astronomy.solar,uk.philosophy.atheism,uk.sci.misc
Rudolf Drabek
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Default Proof Of Evolution.

On 18 Jul., 04:15, sdr wrote:
Proof Of Evolution.

On Jul 15, 2:36 am, Pastor Dave
wrote to someone:

You have given zero proof of macroevolution
and that is what you need to prove and can't.
Bugs staying bugs does not equal "goo to you".
Nor does falsely labeling me do anything but
prove your true intent. Pastor Dave


Everything that exists is an evolution.From ideas to creatures to rocks to atoms and

stars: Everything without a single exception.

This is how it is possible to KNOW that any
and all proposals which exclude the evolutionary
process from ANYTHING is self-evident proof
in-and-of-itself that such a proposal is flawed
AND therefore partly or entirely wrong.

Existence is absolutely deterministic. Otherwise
physical impossibilities become not only possible
but almost inevitable. We become a realm of magic!

I know that theists believe in nothing BUT magic.
And that therefore reason and logic, even the most
obvious and self-evident proofs & facts are of no
use to counter their mental illness (for it is not
unlike a madness, this unreasonable conviction
that deists have that existence is everywhere awash
in evidence of magic all around us). This sickness
even permeates into science and retards/thwarts it.

The classical historical example is when Galileo
showed his telescope to the Pope. Dogma said that
the heavens were perfect and only the earth was
corrupt... and that because we were God's special
creation the universe circled the earth:

IF but looking upon the truth were enough to
convince one of its rightness, surely the Pope would
be instantly convinced when he looked through his
telescope and saw the pox-faced Moon... and all
sorts of heavenly bodies circling NOT the earth but
Jupiter and other mere planets!

But, the Pope looked, and the Pope saw, and the
Pope had to admit to Galileo that he was seeing what
he was seeing. And then, as we all know, the Pope
showed Galileo the instruments of torture which he
threatened to use on him if he did not publicly say
that it was Dogma that was true and NOT what their
eyes were seeing.

It is a social sickness, a mental illness from which
human beings suffer no end.

But I will persist, none-the-less, and mention in
passing the evolution of pathogens which is killing
a whole lot of atheists and theists alike: By the
simplest laws of Darwinian adaptation of the fittest
pathogens which used to kill us in great numbers
were "conquered" by our discovery of antibiotics.

We literally "flushed" the deadly pathogens from
our system and kept them out by a great flood of
antibiotics... forgetting that evolution and not God
or even all our human efforts is what rules the
universe.

Well, we DID kill most of the deadly pathogens, but
the survivors "adapted" to the new environment of
antibiotics. And now the "evolved" pathogens are
returning the state of affairs to the way it used to
be before our discovery of antibiotics--With an ironic
twist: because the newly evolved pathogens actually
thrive in a body flushed with antibiotics, giving
those antibiotics to people sickened with such
pathogens actually makes things worst than were
they not given any antibiotics at all! (We can still
invent newer antibiotics, of course, but evolution
will ensure that the matter will always rest where it
has always rested: in a never-ending arms-race
between living organisms to see which wins the
reproduction race. I have my money on the worst
bugs, whether that turn out to be they or us.)

Ignore the truth of evolution at your own peril.

In the case of H.I.V. research, there was also a
curious instance in which evolution can be seen
playing a quite dramatic role:

Researchers were able to kill off a large percentage
of the AIDS virus (it doesn't matter which for this
example) with a heavy concoction of drugs, and
patients seemed to thrive. But then they began to
sicken again. Stubborn as people are, and doctors
are people too, they persisted on the regimen of
drugs being administered. With sad consequences.

Then some patients decided, on their own, to stop
taking the cocktail of drugs; and actually improved
without any drugs. But it was not magic, it was
evolution at work:

The original viruses were killed (suppressed) by the
cocktail of drugs... leaving only those viruses best
"adapted" to an environment flushed with the drugs
cocktail to "reproduce." Then, when the drugs were
removed, those viruses "best adapted" to live in an
environment without the drugs "replaced" the newly-
evolved viruses. And we go back to the same old
arms-race that evolution has unleashed upon this
earth since its beginnings, worlds without end.

But don't despair: Life is impossible without death.
It may be a great tragedy to the individual, but
death ensures that every generation of creatures is
the best adapted to survive in whatever existence
this planet offers--Something which is completely
unpredictable: Therefore, were it the case that life
depended on some well-thought-out plan, instead of
on blind evolution, I simply cannot imagine how on
earth life might have avoided some catastrophically
stupid blunder long before now and killed itself...
rather than waiting for something to kill it (as it
now does with simply stunning success). [sic.]

S D Rodrianhttp://poems.sdrodrian.comhttp://physics.sdrodrian.comhttp://mp3s.sdrodrian.com

All religions are local.
Only science is universal.


who has made the rules?

  #4  
Old July 19th 07, 01:01 PM posted to sci.skeptic,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,alt.astronomy.solar,uk.philosophy.atheism,uk.sci.misc
Frederick Williams
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Default Proof Of Evolution.

Rudolf Drabek wrote:

...

who has made the rules?


Your question indicates, perhaps, a confusion: the kind of rules which
are laws of nature are not at all related to the kind that are laws of
man.

--
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"He that giveth to the poor lendeth to the Lord, and shall be repaid,"
said Mrs Fairchild, hastily slipping a shilling into the poor woman's
hand.
  #5  
Old July 19th 07, 08:03 PM posted to sci.skeptic,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,alt.astronomy.solar,uk.philosophy.atheism,uk.sci.misc
Mike
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Default Proof Of Evolution.

In article .com,
says...
Proof Of Evolution.

On Jul 15, 2:36 am, Pastor Dave
wrote to someone:

You have given zero proof of macroevolution
and that is what you need to prove and can't.
Bugs staying bugs does not equal "goo to you".
Nor does falsely labeling me do anything but
prove your true intent. Pastor Dave


Everything that exists is an evolution.
From ideas to creatures to rocks to atoms and

stars: Everything without a single exception.

This is how it is possible to KNOW that any
and all proposals which exclude the evolutionary
process from ANYTHING is self-evident proof
in-and-of-itself that such a proposal is flawed
AND therefore partly or entirely wrong.

Existence is absolutely deterministic. Otherwise
physical impossibilities become not only possible
but almost inevitable. We become a realm of magic!

I know that theists believe in nothing BUT magic.
And that therefore reason and logic, even the most
obvious and self-evident proofs & facts are of no
use to counter their mental illness (for it is not
unlike a madness, this unreasonable conviction
that deists have that existence is everywhere awash
in evidence of magic all around us). This sickness
even permeates into science and retards/thwarts it.

The classical historical example is when Galileo
showed his telescope to the Pope. Dogma said that
the heavens were perfect and only the earth was
corrupt... and that because we were God's special
creation the universe circled the earth:

IF but looking upon the truth were enough to
convince one of its rightness, surely the Pope would
be instantly convinced when he looked through his
telescope and saw the pox-faced Moon... and all
sorts of heavenly bodies circling NOT the earth but
Jupiter and other mere planets!

But, the Pope looked, and the Pope saw, and the
Pope had to admit to Galileo that he was seeing what
he was seeing. And then, as we all know, the Pope


Fellows...you can get embroiled with all of these relative arguments
back and forth but it won't resolve any of the issues, just make people
mad. I prefer to look at it from a simple viewpoint. As one example,
look at the structure of a cell, animal or plant. Look at the
complexity of the process of creating a protein. The tRNA (I think,
don't remember the specific name but you catch my drift) transcribes a
section of the DNA to aid in the creation of the protein. After it has
the code, it transports it to a ribosome outside of the nucleus. Once
there, other particles to throughout the cell to grab the specific
building blocks coded by the RNA strip. They then bring these back and
begin to assemble the protein section by section. Notice, these have to
go into a correct sequence otherwise the protein will be useless. After
the amino chain is constructed, it goes into a special area (don't
remember the name) where it folds itself into the correct pattern/shape
for use.

Ok...just looking at this small, microscopic process out of the
billions/trillions that occur 24/7/365...you can have the faith to say
that this is a product of evolution...from the primordial ooze, all of
these processes, after trial and error, happened to start working
correctly? In my mind, no logic or probability can even begin to
describe how impossible this is yet it exists. Ergo, logic tells me
this is much bigger than I can ever fathom! To quote from a famous
movie, there is more than meets the eye!

Mike
  #6  
Old July 19th 07, 09:05 PM posted to sci.skeptic,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,alt.astronomy.solar,uk.philosophy.atheism,uk.sci.misc
Quantum Singularity
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Default Proof Of Evolution.

On Jul 19, 7:01 am, Frederick Williams "Frederick
wrote:
Rudolf Drabek wrote:

...


who has made the rules?


Your question indicates, perhaps, a confusion: the kind of rules which
are laws of nature are not at all related to the kind that are laws of
man.

--
Remove "antispam" and ".invalid" for e-mail address.
"He that giveth to the poor lendeth to the Lord, and shall be repaid,"
said Mrs Fairchild, hastily slipping a shilling into the poor woman's
hand.


Please answer me this question...where did the 'rules' and or 'laws of
nature' come from?

  #7  
Old July 20th 07, 10:45 AM posted to sci.skeptic,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,alt.astronomy.solar,uk.philosophy.atheism,uk.sci.misc
Rudolf Drabek
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Default Proof Of Evolution.

On 19 Jul., 21:03, Mike wrote:
In article .com,
says...



Proof Of Evolution.


On Jul 15, 2:36 am, Pastor Dave
wrote to someone:


You have given zero proof of macroevolution
and that is what you need to prove and can't.
Bugs staying bugs does not equal "goo to you".
Nor does falsely labeling me do anything but
prove your true intent. Pastor Dave


Everything that exists is an evolution.
From ideas to creatures to rocks to atoms and

stars: Everything without a single exception.


This is how it is possible to KNOW that any
and all proposals which exclude the evolutionary
process from ANYTHING is self-evident proof
in-and-of-itself that such a proposal is flawed
AND therefore partly or entirely wrong.


Existence is absolutely deterministic. Otherwise
physical impossibilities become not only possible
but almost inevitable. We become a realm of magic!


I know that theists believe in nothing BUT magic.
And that therefore reason and logic, even the most
obvious and self-evident proofs & facts are of no
use to counter their mental illness (for it is not
unlike a madness, this unreasonable conviction
that deists have that existence is everywhere awash
in evidence of magic all around us). This sickness
even permeates into science and retards/thwarts it.


The classical historical example is when Galileo
showed his telescope to the Pope. Dogma said that
the heavens were perfect and only the earth was
corrupt... and that because we were God's special
creation the universe circled the earth:


IF but looking upon the truth were enough to
convince one of its rightness, surely the Pope would
be instantly convinced when he looked through his
telescope and saw the pox-faced Moon... and all
sorts of heavenly bodies circling NOT the earth but
Jupiter and other mere planets!


But, the Pope looked, and the Pope saw, and the
Pope had to admit to Galileo that he was seeing what
he was seeing. And then, as we all know, the Pope


Fellows...you can get embroiled with all of these relative arguments
back and forth but it won't resolve any of the issues, just make people
mad. I prefer to look at it from a simple viewpoint. As one example,
look at the structure of a cell, animal or plant. Look at the
complexity of the process of creating a protein. The tRNA (I think,
don't remember the specific name but you catch my drift) transcribes a
section of the DNA to aid in the creation of the protein. After it has
the code, it transports it to a ribosome outside of the nucleus. Once
there, other particles to throughout the cell to grab the specific
building blocks coded by the RNA strip. They then bring these back and
begin to assemble the protein section by section. Notice, these have to
go into a correct sequence otherwise the protein will be useless. After
the amino chain is constructed, it goes into a special area (don't
remember the name) where it folds itself into the correct pattern/shape
for use.

Ok...just looking at this small, microscopic process out of the
billions/trillions that occur 24/7/365...you can have the faith to say
that this is a product of evolution...from the primordial ooze, all of
these processes, after trial and error, happened to start working
correctly? In my mind, no logic or probability can even begin to
describe how impossible this is yet it exists. Ergo, logic tells me
this is much bigger than I can ever fathom! To quote from a famous
movie, there is more than meets the eye!

Mike


You have taken an impressing example. For me the logic lies in the
simple every day experience, that nothing happens without a plan. Are
you going for holidays at random?
Evolutionists waste their thinking for nothing, because there is no
sense for anything.

For me, also we can for sure be alone in our "bubble".
If you find 99 reasons each with a probability of 10%, we are for sure
alone. This number is greater than all subparticles together in space.
Some speak of 10 ^31.

I, for me, have found all answers, but it took nearly a lifetime.
And nothing is full deterministic, look into the nature. from macro to
femto.

  #8  
Old July 20th 07, 01:15 PM posted to sci.skeptic,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,alt.astronomy.solar,uk.philosophy.atheism,uk.sci.misc
Mark N.
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Default Proof Of Evolution.

On Jul 19, 4:36 am, Rudolf Drabek wrote:

who has made the rules?


To understand the answer to this question, you should phrase it as
"What caused the law of cause and effect?"

In order to be a genuine cause, the cause must precede the effect. For
the law of cause and effect to have a cause, that cause must have
existed before there was a law of cause and effect. But if there is no
law of cause and effect, then the "cause" is not really related to the
"effect" in any causal sense. Which means that the "cause" of the law
of cause and effect didn't really cause it. So what caused the law of
cause and effect?

m

  #9  
Old July 20th 07, 03:29 PM posted to sci.skeptic,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,alt.astronomy.solar,uk.philosophy.atheism,uk.sci.misc
Frederick Williams
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Default Proof Of Evolution.

Quantum Singularity wrote:

On Jul 19, 7:01 am, Frederick Williams "Frederick
wrote:
Rudolf Drabek wrote:

...


who has made the rules?


Your question indicates, perhaps, a confusion: the kind of rules which
are laws of nature are not at all related to the kind that are laws of
man.

--
Remove "antispam" and ".invalid" for e-mail address.
"He that giveth to the poor lendeth to the Lord, and shall be repaid,"
said Mrs Fairchild, hastily slipping a shilling into the poor woman's
hand.


Please answer me this question...where did the 'rules' and or 'laws of
nature' come from?


Did they come from anywhere? If they did, I don't know.

--
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"He that giveth to the poor lendeth to the Lord, and shall be repaid,"
said Mrs Fairchild, hastily slipping a shilling into the poor woman's
hand.
  #10  
Old July 20th 07, 03:37 PM posted to sci.skeptic,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,alt.astronomy.solar,uk.philosophy.atheism,uk.sci.misc
Christopher A.Lee
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Default Proof Of Evolution.

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:29:10 GMT, Frederick Williams "Frederick
wrote:

hand.

Please answer me this question...where did the 'rules' and or 'laws of
nature' come from?


Did they come from anywhere? If they did, I don't know.


They are descriptive, not proscriptive.

Why do these idiots imagine they had to come from anywhere?
 




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