Alien Robots?

Any Alien race that we ever come in to contact with will have built
technology either in the shape of spaceship or a radio.

If a Alien race builds machines, it is only a matter of time before the
machines are more sophisticated than the creatures that built them. I think
it is likely that the machines will far out live their masters and go on to
build their own civilization.

The mental psyche of a machine is pure guess work, if the machines decided
to propagate themselves, they could start a colonization drive of nearby
planets. This machine Empire would grow slowly at first, but at a geometric
rate (i.e. 2,4,8,16,32,) and in a short amount of time (only a few million
years) the machine Empire would populate the known universe. Which,
although big, the universe is only growing at a numetric rate (1,2,3,4,5,6).

A geometric growth rate will always far out perform a numetric one. Since
the Universe is billions of years old, at this point it should have been
fully colonized by now. Emplty planets like mars should be extremely rare.
(I believe that the presence of empty planets are an early indication that
we are infact alone.)

I believe that it is far more likely that we will meet a machine race than a
biological one.

Wasn't it phil360 who wrote:
Any Alien race that we ever come in to contact with will have built
technology either in the shape of spaceship or a radio.

If a Alien race builds machines, it is only a matter of time before the
machines are more sophisticated than the creatures that built them. I think
it is likely that the machines will far out live their masters and go on to
build their own civilization.

The mental psyche of a machine is pure guess work, if the machines decided
to propagate themselves, they could start a colonization drive of nearby
planets. This machine Empire would grow slowly at first, but at a geometric
rate (i.e. 2,4,8,16,32,) and in a short amount of time (only a few million
years) the machine Empire would populate the known universe. Which,
although big, the universe is only growing at a numetric rate (1,2,3,4,5,6).

A geometric growth rate will always far out perform a numetric one. Since
the Universe is billions of years old, at this point it should have been
fully colonized by now. Emplty planets like mars should be extremely rare.
(I believe that the presence of empty planets are an early indication that
we are infact alone.)

I believe that it is far more likely that we will meet a machine race than a
biological one.

Firstly: I would suspect that any species capable of building self-
replicating machines that are more sophisticated than the guys that
built them would be aware that it would be a terribly dangerous thing to
do, and would build in some strict safeguards to limit their development
and population.

Secondly: I can't see any reason why a machine civilisation would last
any longer than an organic one, or have a faster population growth. In
fact, I can imagine machines being logical enough to decide that 100 or
1000 planets is enough and deciding to limit their population to a fixed
level using renewable resources. Organic civilisations are more likely
to be driven by an illogical biological imperative to reproduce and
therefore regularly need to move into fresh real estate.

--
Mike Williams
Gentleman of Leisure

Wasn't it phil360 who wrote:
Any Alien race that we ever come in to contact with will have built
technology either in the shape of spaceship or a radio.

If a Alien race builds machines, it is only a matter of time before the
machines are more sophisticated than the creatures that built them. I think
it is likely that the machines will far out live their masters and go on to
build their own civilization.

The mental psyche of a machine is pure guess work, if the machines decided
to propagate themselves, they could start a colonization drive of nearby
planets. This machine Empire would grow slowly at first, but at a geometric
rate (i.e. 2,4,8,16,32,) and in a short amount of time (only a few million
years) the machine Empire would populate the known universe. Which,
although big, the universe is only growing at a numetric rate (1,2,3,4,5,6).

A geometric growth rate will always far out perform a numetric one. Since
the Universe is billions of years old, at this point it should have been
fully colonized by now. Emplty planets like mars should be extremely rare.
(I believe that the presence of empty planets are an early indication that
we are infact alone.)

I believe that it is far more likely that we will meet a machine race than a
biological one.

Firstly: I would suspect that any species capable of building self-
replicating machines that are more sophisticated than the guys that
built them would be aware that it would be a terribly dangerous thing to
do, and would build in some strict safeguards to limit their development
and population.

Secondly: I can't see any reason why a machine civilisation would last
any longer than an organic one, or have a faster population growth. In
fact, I can imagine machines being logical enough to decide that 100 or
1000 planets is enough and deciding to limit their population to a fixed
level using renewable resources. Organic civilisations are more likely
to be driven by an illogical biological imperative to reproduce and
therefore regularly need to move into fresh real estate.

--
Mike Williams
Gentleman of Leisure

"phil360" wrote in message
...
Any Alien race that we ever come in to contact with will have built
technology either in the shape of spaceship or a radio.

If a Alien race builds machines, it is only a matter of time before the
machines are more sophisticated than the creatures that built them. I
think
it is likely that the machines will far out live their masters and go on
to
build their own civilization.

......

I believe that it is far more likely that we will meet a machine race than
a
biological one.


We might not be able to tell the difference (that we are dealing with
a machine or a naturally evolved species).

"phil360" wrote in message
...
Any Alien race that we ever come in to contact with will have built
technology either in the shape of spaceship or a radio.

If a Alien race builds machines, it is only a matter of time before the
machines are more sophisticated than the creatures that built them. I
think
it is likely that the machines will far out live their masters and go on
to
build their own civilization.

......

I believe that it is far more likely that we will meet a machine race than
a
biological one.


We might not be able to tell the difference (that we are dealing with
a machine or a naturally evolved species).

Well what ever you think about evoloution, design is a lot better.

Firstly: I would suspect that any species capable of building self-
replicating machines that are more sophisticated than the guys that
built them would be aware that it would be a terribly dangerous thing to
do, and would build in some strict safeguards to limit their development
and population.

Secondly: I can't see any reason why a machine civilisation would last
any longer than an organic one, or have a faster population growth. In
fact, I can imagine machines being logical enough to decide that 100 or
1000 planets is enough and deciding to limit their population to a fixed
level using renewable resources. Organic civilisations are more likely
to be driven by an illogical biological imperative to reproduce and
therefore regularly need to move into fresh real estate.

--
Mike Williams
Gentleman of Leisure

Well what ever you think about evoloution, design is a lot better.

Firstly: I would suspect that any species capable of building self-
replicating machines that are more sophisticated than the guys that
built them would be aware that it would be a terribly dangerous thing to
do, and would build in some strict safeguards to limit their development
and population.

Secondly: I can't see any reason why a machine civilisation would last
any longer than an organic one, or have a faster population growth. In
fact, I can imagine machines being logical enough to decide that 100 or
1000 planets is enough and deciding to limit their population to a fixed
level using renewable resources. Organic civilisations are more likely
to be driven by an illogical biological imperative to reproduce and
therefore regularly need to move into fresh real estate.

--
Mike Williams
Gentleman of Leisure

Well what ever you think about evoloution, design is a lot better.

And evolution has already proved you wrong on that count.


Proved me wrong?
In what way?

Well what ever you think about evoloution, design is a lot better.

And evolution has already proved you wrong on that count.


Proved me wrong?
In what way?

phil360 wrote:
Well what ever you think about evoloution, design is a lot better.

And evolution has already proved you wrong on that count.


Go forth and multiply
(Note the pun(s)... (;-))

Cheers,
Martin


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