Westbound Satellite?

On 08.09.2003 22:01, in article
, "Al Gerharter"
wrote:


I have never heard of a westbound satellite for obvious Delta V reasons.
I am an airline pilot, and am better than average at recognizing aircraft.
Anyone have any thoughts?


On Sunday morning 07SEP03 between 0533-0538 PDT (UT -7) the satellite
OV1-2 (#1613 / 1965-078-A) passed almost directly overhead of me here
in Las Vegas, Nevada (N36.193 x W115.022) travelling almost exactly
due East to West. This was just prior to sunrise (Sun was -9 deg) at
the time. So I guess they do travel East to West. This satellite is
quite old, launch date of Oct.05,'65.
Tony

On 08.09.2003 22:01, in article
, "Al Gerharter"
wrote:


I have never heard of a westbound satellite for obvious Delta V reasons.
I am an airline pilot, and am better than average at recognizing aircraft.
Anyone have any thoughts?


On Sunday morning 07SEP03 between 0533-0538 PDT (UT -7) the satellite
OV1-2 (#1613 / 1965-078-A) passed almost directly overhead of me here
in Las Vegas, Nevada (N36.193 x W115.022) travelling almost exactly
due East to West. This was just prior to sunrise (Sun was -9 deg) at
the time. So I guess they do travel East to West. This satellite is
quite old, launch date of Oct.05,'65.
Tony

The Israelis have also launched several satellites, which for
obvious reasons have to head west. However none of these
"Ofeq" are currently in orbit.

Actually there is one:

OFEQ 5 2.3 1.2 0.0 7.0 d 2.2
1 27434U 02025A 03258.45293357 .00018465 00000-0 47577-3 0 5763
2 27434 143.4432 231.6162 0130040 134.6088 226.5094 15.28626704 72134


Cheers.
Don Gardner 39.1799 N, 76.8406 W, 100m ASL
Homepage: http://hometown.aol.com/mir16609/

The Israelis have also launched several satellites, which for
obvious reasons have to head west. However none of these
"Ofeq" are currently in orbit.

Actually there is one:

OFEQ 5 2.3 1.2 0.0 7.0 d 2.2
1 27434U 02025A 03258.45293357 .00018465 00000-0 47577-3 0 5763
2 27434 143.4432 231.6162 0130040 134.6088 226.5094 15.28626704 72134


Cheers.
Don Gardner 39.1799 N, 76.8406 W, 100m ASL
Homepage: http://hometown.aol.com/mir16609/

Excuse me for being stupid, but what are the "OBVIOUS" reasons for this???

"Don Gardner" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
The Israelis have also launched several satellites, which for
obvious reasons have to head west. However none of these
"Ofeq" are currently in orbit.

Actually there is one:

OFEQ 5 2.3 1.2 0.0 7.0 d 2.2
1 27434U 02025A 03258.45293357 .00018465 00000-0 47577-3 0 5763
2 27434 143.4432 231.6162 0130040 134.6088 226.5094 15.28626704 72134


Cheers.
Don Gardner 39.1799 N, 76.8406 W, 100m ASL
Homepage: http://hometown.aol.com/mir16609/

Excuse me for being stupid, but what are the "OBVIOUS" reasons for this???

"Don Gardner" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
The Israelis have also launched several satellites, which for
obvious reasons have to head west. However none of these
"Ofeq" are currently in orbit.

Actually there is one:

OFEQ 5 2.3 1.2 0.0 7.0 d 2.2
1 27434U 02025A 03258.45293357 .00018465 00000-0 47577-3 0 5763
2 27434 143.4432 231.6162 0130040 134.6088 226.5094 15.28626704 72134


Cheers.
Don Gardner 39.1799 N, 76.8406 W, 100m ASL
Homepage: http://hometown.aol.com/mir16609/

elmo wrote:

Excuse me for being stupid, but what are the "OBVIOUS" reasons for this???

First, there's the political situation--almost any other direction will
have an Israeli rocket overfly a Muslim nation right after launch. Most
of them aren't fond of Israel, and they might see a launch as a
pre-emptive attack.

Politics aside, almost any direction but west will put a rocket over
inhabited territory; that's a dangerous situation. A western launch
puts the vehicle over the Mediterranean, which is a safer place to
crash.
Mark Wade's Space Encyclopedia (at http://www.astronautix.com )
says that launches from the Palmachim site south of Tel Aviv are
restricted to launches between an azimuth of 142 and 144 degrees.

I originally wrote:

The Israelis have also launched several satellites, which for
obvious reasons have to head west. However none of these
"Ofeq" are currently in orbit.

Actually there is one:

OFEQ 5 2.3 1.2 0.0 7.0 d 2.2
1 27434U 02025A 03258.45293357 .00018465 00000-0 47577-3 0 5763
2 27434 143.4432 231.6162 0130040 134.6088 226.5094 15.28626704 72134

My (belated) thanks to Don Gardner for pointing this out.

--Bill Thompson

elmo wrote:

Excuse me for being stupid, but what are the "OBVIOUS" reasons for this???

First, there's the political situation--almost any other direction will
have an Israeli rocket overfly a Muslim nation right after launch. Most
of them aren't fond of Israel, and they might see a launch as a
pre-emptive attack.

Politics aside, almost any direction but west will put a rocket over
inhabited territory; that's a dangerous situation. A western launch
puts the vehicle over the Mediterranean, which is a safer place to
crash.
Mark Wade's Space Encyclopedia (at http://www.astronautix.com )
says that launches from the Palmachim site south of Tel Aviv are
restricted to launches between an azimuth of 142 and 144 degrees.

I originally wrote:

The Israelis have also launched several satellites, which for
obvious reasons have to head west. However none of these
"Ofeq" are currently in orbit.

Actually there is one:

OFEQ 5 2.3 1.2 0.0 7.0 d 2.2
1 27434U 02025A 03258.45293357 .00018465 00000-0 47577-3 0 5763
2 27434 143.4432 231.6162 0130040 134.6088 226.5094 15.28626704 72134

My (belated) thanks to Don Gardner for pointing this out.

--Bill Thompson

Unfriendly neighbours to the east, who get nervous when rockets fly over
their territory, and even more so when spent stages fall on them.

In message , Elmo
writes
Excuse me for being stupid, but what are the "OBVIOUS" reasons for this???

"Don Gardner" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
The Israelis have also launched several satellites, which for
obvious reasons have to head west. However none of these
"Ofeq" are currently in orbit.

Actually there is one:

OFEQ 5 2.3 1.2 0.0 7.0 d 2.2
1 27434U 02025A 03258.45293357 .00018465 00000-0 47577-3 0 5763
2 27434 143.4432 231.6162 0130040 134.6088 226.5094 15.28626704 72134

--
"It is written in mathematical language"
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Unfriendly neighbours to the east, who get nervous when rockets fly over
their territory, and even more so when spent stages fall on them.

In message , Elmo
writes
Excuse me for being stupid, but what are the "OBVIOUS" reasons for this???

"Don Gardner" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
The Israelis have also launched several satellites, which for
obvious reasons have to head west. However none of these
"Ofeq" are currently in orbit.

Actually there is one:

OFEQ 5 2.3 1.2 0.0 7.0 d 2.2
1 27434U 02025A 03258.45293357 .00018465 00000-0 47577-3 0 5763
2 27434 143.4432 231.6162 0130040 134.6088 226.5094 15.28626704 72134

--
"It is written in mathematical language"
Remove spam and invalid from address to reply.