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Fudging Our Sun + Solar System
In our present spacetime we have a pretty good structure of our solar
system all the way out to Pluto. This does not seem to change our thoughts on how it came to be. We still have no really good answers to hard questions. We still fudge. Just knowing how hydrogen and helium gas acts in the vacuum of space,and then having gravity compressing these two gases to a point when fusion starts needs much more good thinking. I can think of so many more questions that have such weak theories relating to our solar system it makes me laugh. Bert |
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". This does not seem to change our thoughts on how it came to be. Who's thoughts? Do NOT lump me in with the rest of humanity! Mark |
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On Apr 26, 4:59 am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
In our present spacetime we have a pretty good structure of our solar system all the way out to Pluto. This does not seem to change our thoughts on how it came to be. We still have no really good answers to hard questions. We still fudge. Just knowing how hydrogen and helium gas acts in the vacuum of space,and then having gravity compressing these two gases to a point when fusion starts needs much more good thinking. I can think of so many more questions that have such weak theories relating to our solar system it makes me laugh. Bert We do not even have an honest freaking clue as to ice of any sort coexisting in 1AU space, much less upon our double-IR toasty or otherwise frozen to death moon. Why is the peer replicated physics and hard measured science of ice in space still so hocus-pocus, as though taboo/nondisclosure rated? What about all of that hot sodium coming off our gamma and X-ray saturated moon? .. - Brad Guth |
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Fudging Our Sun + Solar System
Brad Hocus pocus goes well with humankind's thinking when answers can't
be found for how the universe is structured. Anthropic theories come in. Religion jumps in. Fairy tales that start with "Once upon a time" Sad but true Go figure Bert |
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Fudging Our Sun + Solar System
What is the force of Sun's gravity on Pluto? bert
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On Apr 28, 4:58 am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
What is the force of Sun's gravity on Pluto? bert http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2...onsofpluto.htm “These are tiny moons. Their estimated diameters lie between 40 and 125 miles (64 and 200 kilometers). Charon, for comparison, is about 730 miles (1170 km) wide, while Pluto itself has a diameter of about 1410 miles (2270 km).” Pluto = 2.125e-3 earth = 1.27e22 kg (not including it’s three planetoids/moons) Pluto average distance = 5.91352e12 m Avg. orbital velocity = 4.74e3 m/s Centripetal Force = Tidal Binding Force(TBF) or Binding Energy(TBE) http://www.mill-creek-systems.com/se/SEGravity.htm centripetal force = 48.2519e15 Newtons/sec (10.848e15 lbs/sec) Impressive, isn't it. Better yet if we included the local mass of those three little moons. . - Brad Guth |
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On Apr 27, 5:56 am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
Brad Hocus pocus goes well with humankind's thinking when answers can't be found for how the universe is structured. Anthropic theories come in. Religion jumps in. Fairy tales that start with "Once upon a time" Sad but true Go figure Bert And best of all, if you don't happen to like whatever someone is saying or thinking, you can always put them of a stick for another one of those faith-based PR stunts, then continually deny having anything whatsoever to do with it. Otherwise there's always witch and book burnings. Isn't intelligent life on Earth good, or what! .. - Brad Guth |
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Fudging Our Sun + Solar System
Rogue stars, planets and those pesky icy proto-moons do exist, as
somewhat created on the fly (so to speak). It’s likely where our passive sun came from, as well as for a few of our planets and associated moons that don’t seem to fit the Old Testament interpretation as the one and only holy grail of what’s mainstream status quo, or bust. Tidal binding force of a given solar system is rather impressive, but almost nothing compared to the cosmic tidal binding force of entire galaxies that host such SMBH cores in addition to all else combined, and especially offering an extended tidal grasping reach between those galaxies mutually attracting upon one another. Pluto = 2.125e-3 earth = 1.27e22 kg (not including it’s three planetoids/moons) Pluto average distance = 5.91352e12 m Avg. orbital velocity = 4.74e3 m/s Centripetal Force = Tidal Binding Force(TBF) or Binding Energy(TBE), is the same exact worth as the following. http://www.mill-creek-systems.com/se/SEGravity.htm centripetal force = 48.2519e15 Newtons/sec (10.848e15 lbs/sec) http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2...onsofpluto.htm “These are tiny moons. Their estimated diameters lie between 40 and 125 miles (64 and 200 kilometers). Charon, for comparison, is about 730 miles (1170 km) wide, while Pluto itself has a diameter of about 1410 miles (2270 km).” Even Sedna at its furthest reach and of such little mass hasn’t a chance at escaping the mutual binding worth of tidal grasp without help, at least not until our Sun as consumed much of itself, having gone into its red giant phase, thus leaving behind a mere spent brown dwarf of a sun that hasn’t sufficient mass to even hold onto the likes of Earth, much less Sedna. . – Brad Guth Before the supposed singular BB, there was supposedly just our one and only SMBH (aka God fart or Semitic Massive Black Hole) surrounded in all possible directions by less than one messily atom per cubic light year, without any other photons or gravitons anywhere in sight. (ideal faith-based mindset) OOPS!, talk about cosmic shrinkage and having another one of those bad God days. Here’s a few faith testing images of galactic encounters, of the worse possible kind. (a series of God oops resets, as recorded by team Hubble) The best of 59 examples of cosmic hell busting lose, not that many other than these relatively old Hubble images of the anti-big-bang exist. Each of these galaxies has a fairly horrific gravity/tidal radius of several thousand light years (perhaps at least as great as 64r, if not 256r), not to mention the mutual attraction of whatever a pair or more of these bad boys has to work with, whereas you might like to further reconsider the mutual gravity/tidal binding grasp of two or more such encounters is perhaps worth 4X the individual tidal radius. (hard to avoid gravity, especially when it’s the only game in town) http://www.sciam.com/gallery_directo...32672098BE3984 http://www6.comcast.net/news/science...deshow/view/1/ What is the mutual cosmic gravity/tidal binding reach of our Milky Way and that of Andromeda? (1024r?) Try to remember that our moon and Earth represents an impressive mutual tidal grasp of 2e20 N at better than 60r, and our Sun/Pluto average tidal reach is obviously worth 10,060r, not to mention whatever Sedna might suggest. Obviously, if this mutual tidal radius of binding force wasn’t there to behold, we’d be losing our grip on such wussy little items as Pluto and Sedna, especially when our solar system trekked anywhere near the 3X solar mass of Sirius would become capable of adding or subtracting items (aka cosmic foreign exchange, so to speak). . – BG On Apr 26, 4:59 am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote: In our present spacetime we have a pretty good structure of our solar system all the way out to Pluto. This does not seem to change our thoughts on how it came to be. We still have no really good answers to hard questions. We still fudge. Just knowing how hydrogen and helium gas acts in the vacuum of space,and then having gravity compressing these two gases to a point when fusion starts needs much more good thinking. I can think of so many more questions that have such weak theories relating to our solar system it makes me laugh. Bert |
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