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Astronomy - not religious pollution
Cut the religious bull**** and pollution.
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Astronomy - not Atheist pollution
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008, "Atheist Joe" wrote:
sci.astro.amateur drop message-id:*news.webpartner.dk* On Wed 02 Apr 2008 wrote: CALL YOUR THEATER. BUY GROUP TICKETS. RENT A THEATER. Here's How: 1. Identify your local movie theater's corporate affiliation (Regal, AMC, Cinemark, etc.) by looking in the newspaper for their ads. 2. Call the corporate headquarters (see the list below) and tell them to book EXPELLED at your local theater (give them your state and home town.) 3. Visit http://www.expelledthemovie.com and download a free poster. 4. Call or stop by your local theater and ask for the manager. Tell him that your school, church, or organization wants to see EXPELLED. Ask about group rates and/or renting the theater for a night. Leave a note with the EXPELLED poster. We will contact you: Leave a message on our Group Sales Hotline at: 800-705-0485, send an email to Please forward this email to friends and contacts! _________________________________________________ __________________________________ Company Phone Company Phone AMC (800) 262-4849 Malco Theatres (AK, MS, KT, MO)..(866) 528-1589 Carmike Cinemas (706) 576-3400 Malco Theatres (Memphis).........(901) 761-3480 Century Theatres (415) 448-8422 Mann Theatres....................(818) 380-8212 Cinemark (800) Cinemark Mescop Theatres..................(715) 362-2800 Classic Cinemas (630) 968-1600 MJR Theatres.....................(248) 548-8282 x116 Cleveland Cinemas (440) 349-3306 Muvico Theatres..................(954) 564-6550 x1284 Drexel Theatres Gr (614) 222-0947 Rave Motion Pictures.............(972) 692-1700 Easter Federal (800) 394-7368 Regal Cinemas/Edwards/UA.........(800) 792-8244 x328 GKC Theatres (217) 528-4981 Rouman Cinemas...................(715) 362-2800 x107 Harkins Theatres (480) 627-7777 Santikos Theatres................(210) 496-1300 x12 Kerasotes Theatres (217) 788-5200 Star Theatres (608) 326-5449 Krikorian Theatres (866) 250-2320 UltraStar Cinemas (760) 597-5777 x14 Lone Star Theatres (512) 353-7077 _________________________________________________ __________________________________ 'EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed' In Theaters Nationwide, Friday April 18th http://www.expelledthemovie.com __________________________________________________ ________________ On Tue, 08 Apr 2008, Gabriel wrote: Yet more evidence of how anyone who dares question evolutionism or point out how the evidence points much more accurately towards intelligent design. =============================================== = https://www.icr.org/article/3766/ Intelligence Expelled by Christine Dao* "Ideas have consequences." With these words, Premise Media CFO Ralph Manning summarized Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed at an early screening event in Fort Worth, Texas. The new film, starring stoic funnyman Ben Stein, has stirred up a lot of controversy in recent months--and that appears to be its goal. "Ben Stein is an ardent defender of the sanctity of life and has come to see Darwinian evolution as an important issue in the culture war," Manning explained. The film, he said, attempts to bring the underlying issues surrounding the origins debate to the attention of an otherwise apathetic public. Shot in ten countries on four continents, Expelled chronicles the economist, actor, lawyer, columnist, and former presidential speechwriter's search for answers as he conducts interviews with both proponents and dissenters of the scientific theory of Darwinian evolution. His destinations include universities, museums, and even the Nazi extermination camp of Dachau, located in southern Germany near Munich. Expelled, set to open in approximately 1,000 theatres nationwide on April 18, challenges conventional thought and exposes the systematic suppression of academic freedom and free speech that the scientific community has conducted under the guise of "science." Stein injects his signature humor into an otherwise grave matter, at first providing comical counterpoints to evolutionary claims, but then gradually revealing the serious consequences of allowing politics and personal agendas to muzzle the free marketplace of ideas. The film dips into the ideology behind the theories of evolution and intelligent design. Viewers are treated to a model animation and scientific explanation of DNA and cellular systems. With advances in molecular biology and nanotechnology, scientists are discovering the amazing intricacies and complexities of the human cell, most of which were unknown in Darwin's time. But the main focus is the oppression of scientists and educators who have been fired, denied tenure, or otherwise shunned because they dared to question Darwinism. Journalist and author Larry Witham told Stein that among his years of reporting on the evolution debate, he found that people can't question the "paradigm" if they want to advance in science. After all, grant money and teaching positions are controlled by the evolutionary elitists, barring most dissenting scientists from conducting research that might oppose evolution. Many scientists' identities had to be shielded in the film for fear of persecution and/or retribution. Guillermo Gonzalez, an eminent astronomer who was denied tenure at Iowa State University, said that scientists will use intelligent design to do their research, but will not publicly talk about or admit it. The film employs imagery of the Berlin Wall to illustrate this suppression. Academic freedom is only allowed on one side of the wall, Stein explains, and any ideas from the "other side" must be eliminated. His sobering visits to Dachau and the Hadamar "mental hospital"-- where more than 14,000 "patients" met their demise under Nazism's racial purity policies--painted an eerie picture of what happens to humanity when a few elitists take it upon themselves to help along the evolutionary process. According to From Darwin to Hitler author Richard Weikart, Hitler saw World War II as a Darwinian struggle for existence, and he justified the practice of eugenics by saying that mankind had "transgressed the law of natural selection" by allowing inferior beings to survive and propagate (Mein Kampf, 1925). Darwinism's proponents are given ample time to state their case. Biologist Richard Dawkins and National Center for Science Education executive director Eugenie Scott make appearances, though their comments don't so much present evidence for Darwinism as reveal their own biases. Scott proudly displays a push-pin map of the United States showing areas where the NCSE is making efforts to quell opposition to Darwinism. The film concludes with a one-on-one interview between Dawkins and Stein, a discussion that is sure to surprise audiences on either side of the "wall." A variety of reviews, blogs, and judgments circulated the web even before the movie's release. Some compared Expelled to the works of Michael Moore, and others denied that Stein ever interviewed Dawkins at all. If the film stirred up this much controversy before hitting the big screen, then it has certainly been successful thus far in promoting its primary message: "Ideas have consequences." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I hope this movie has the impact its producers are hoping for, that the general theory of ID does in fact get included along- side the (officially since 1947) monopolistic theory of EV in the curriculum of accredited universities across America, and this in the very near future, like starting next year in 2009. Meanwhile, the Atheists continue mocking the film, believing that it will have no effect at all. Sadly, they may be right, especially since the bible explicitly says they won't repent, not to the bitter end. If history is any judge...enough said. Armageddon Cometh, Daniel Joseph Min http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQA/AwUBR/5ju5ljD7YrHM/nEQLfsgCfewP46wk5LvEcFogFDltx42yyV94AoM4J 5DadE2NxxtrkmMnJEFGoe3yA =JdfD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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On Thu, 10 Apr 2008, "Atheist Joe" wrote:
sci.astro.amateur drop message-id:*news.webpartner.dk* On Wed 02 Apr 2008 wrote: CALL YOUR THEATER. BUY GROUP TICKETS. RENT A THEATER. Here's How: 1. Identify your local movie theater's corporate affiliation (Regal, AMC, Cinemark, etc.) by looking in the newspaper for their ads. 2. Call the corporate headquarters (see the list below) and tell them to book EXPELLED at your local theater (give them your state and home town.) 3. Visit http://www.expelledthemovie.com and download a free poster. 4. Call or stop by your local theater and ask for the manager. Tell him that your school, church, or organization wants to see EXPELLED. Ask about group rates and/or renting the theater for a night. Leave a note with the EXPELLED poster. We will contact you: Leave a message on our Group Sales Hotline at: 800-705-0485, send an email to Please forward this email to friends and contacts! _________________________________________________ __________________________________ Company Phone Company Phone AMC (800) 262-4849 Malco Theatres (AK, MS, KT, MO)..(866) 528-1589 Carmike Cinemas (706) 576-3400 Malco Theatres (Memphis).........(901) 761-3480 Century Theatres (415) 448-8422 Mann Theatres....................(818) 380-8212 Cinemark (800) Cinemark Mescop Theatres..................(715) 362-2800 Classic Cinemas (630) 968-1600 MJR Theatres.....................(248) 548-8282 x116 Cleveland Cinemas (440) 349-3306 Muvico Theatres..................(954) 564-6550 x1284 Drexel Theatres Gr (614) 222-0947 Rave Motion Pictures.............(972) 692-1700 Easter Federal (800) 394-7368 Regal Cinemas/Edwards/UA.........(800) 792-8244 x328 GKC Theatres (217) 528-4981 Rouman Cinemas...................(715) 362-2800 x107 Harkins Theatres (480) 627-7777 Santikos Theatres................(210) 496-1300 x12 Kerasotes Theatres (217) 788-5200 Star Theatres (608) 326-5449 Krikorian Theatres (866) 250-2320 UltraStar Cinemas (760) 597-5777 x14 Lone Star Theatres (512) 353-7077 _________________________________________________ __________________________________ 'EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed' In Theaters Nationwide, Friday April 18th http://www.expelledthemovie.com __________________________________________________ ________________ On Tue, 08 Apr 2008, Gabriel wrote: Yet more evidence of how anyone who dares question evolutionism or point out how the evidence points much more accurately towards intelligent design. =============================================== = https://www.icr.org/article/3766/ Intelligence Expelled by Christine Dao* "Ideas have consequences." With these words, Premise Media CFO Ralph Manning summarized Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed at an early screening event in Fort Worth, Texas. The new film, starring stoic funnyman Ben Stein, has stirred up a lot of controversy in recent months--and that appears to be its goal. "Ben Stein is an ardent defender of the sanctity of life and has come to see Darwinian evolution as an important issue in the culture war," Manning explained. The film, he said, attempts to bring the underlying issues surrounding the origins debate to the attention of an otherwise apathetic public. Shot in ten countries on four continents, Expelled chronicles the economist, actor, lawyer, columnist, and former presidential speechwriter's search for answers as he conducts interviews with both proponents and dissenters of the scientific theory of Darwinian evolution. His destinations include universities, museums, and even the Nazi extermination camp of Dachau, located in southern Germany near Munich. Expelled, set to open in approximately 1,000 theatres nationwide on April 18, challenges conventional thought and exposes the systematic suppression of academic freedom and free speech that the scientific community has conducted under the guise of "science." Stein injects his signature humor into an otherwise grave matter, at first providing comical counterpoints to evolutionary claims, but then gradually revealing the serious consequences of allowing politics and personal agendas to muzzle the free marketplace of ideas. The film dips into the ideology behind the theories of evolution and intelligent design. Viewers are treated to a model animation and scientific explanation of DNA and cellular systems. With advances in molecular biology and nanotechnology, scientists are discovering the amazing intricacies and complexities of the human cell, most of which were unknown in Darwin's time. But the main focus is the oppression of scientists and educators who have been fired, denied tenure, or otherwise shunned because they dared to question Darwinism. Journalist and author Larry Witham told Stein that among his years of reporting on the evolution debate, he found that people can't question the "paradigm" if they want to advance in science. After all, grant money and teaching positions are controlled by the evolutionary elitists, barring most dissenting scientists from conducting research that might oppose evolution. Many scientists' identities had to be shielded in the film for fear of persecution and/or retribution. Guillermo Gonzalez, an eminent astronomer who was denied tenure at Iowa State University, said that scientists will use intelligent design to do their research, but will not publicly talk about or admit it. The film employs imagery of the Berlin Wall to illustrate this suppression. Academic freedom is only allowed on one side of the wall, Stein explains, and any ideas from the "other side" must be eliminated. His sobering visits to Dachau and the Hadamar "mental hospital"-- where more than 14,000 "patients" met their demise under Nazism's racial purity policies--painted an eerie picture of what happens to humanity when a few elitists take it upon themselves to help along the evolutionary process. According to From Darwin to Hitler author Richard Weikart, Hitler saw World War II as a Darwinian struggle for existence, and he justified the practice of eugenics by saying that mankind had "transgressed the law of natural selection" by allowing inferior beings to survive and propagate (Mein Kampf, 1925). Darwinism's proponents are given ample time to state their case. Biologist Richard Dawkins and National Center for Science Education executive director Eugenie Scott make appearances, though their comments don't so much present evidence for Darwinism as reveal their own biases. Scott proudly displays a push-pin map of the United States showing areas where the NCSE is making efforts to quell opposition to Darwinism. The film concludes with a one-on-one interview between Dawkins and Stein, a discussion that is sure to surprise audiences on either side of the "wall." A variety of reviews, blogs, and judgments circulated the web even before the movie's release. Some compared Expelled to the works of Michael Moore, and others denied that Stein ever interviewed Dawkins at all. If the film stirred up this much controversy before hitting the big screen, then it has certainly been successful thus far in promoting its primary message: "Ideas have consequences." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I hope this movie has the impact its producers are hoping for, that the general theory of ID does in fact get included along- side the (officially since 1947) monopolistic theory of EV in the curriculum of accredited universities across America, and this in the very near future, like starting next year in 2009. Meanwhile, the Atheists continue mocking the film, believing that it will have no effect at all. Sadly, they may be right, especially since the bible explicitly says they won't repent, not to the bitter end. If history is any judge...enough said. Armageddon Cometh, Daniel Joseph Min http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQA/AwUBR/5ju5ljD7YrHM/nEQLfsgCfewP46wk5LvEcFogFDltx42yyV94AoM4J 5DadE2NxxtrkmMnJEFGoe3yA =JdfD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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-BUT-,- BUT- ,-BUT. No one alse will listen to me.
"Astronomy Joe" wrote in message ... Cut the religious bull**** and pollution. This is an astronomy newsgroup. Hank. |
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-BUT-,- BUT- ,-BUT. No one alse will listen to me. And besides... is not astronimy itself a religious act: the ultimate form of "adoration of the heavens..."? -dave w "Astronomy Joe" wrote in message ... Cut the religious bull**** and pollution. This is an astronomy newsgroup. Hank. |
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Mark F. wrote:
-BUT-,- BUT- ,-BUT. No one alse will listen to me. "Astronomy Joe" wrote in message ... Cut the religious bull**** and pollution. This is an astronomy newsgroup. Hank. I really like that one.. That made for a good day.. Thanks, Steve |
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On Apr 10, 12:28 pm, "Astronomy Joe" wrote:
Cut the religious bull**** and pollution. This is an astronomy newsgroup. Unfortunately, the people posting that stuff here do not listen to our complaints. John Savard |
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On Apr 11, 1:14*am, David Weinshenker wrote:
"Mark F." wrote: -BUT-,- BUT- ,-BUT. No one alse will listen to me. And besides... is not astronimy itself a religious act: the ultimate form of "adoration of the heavens..."? -dave w "Astronomy Joe" wrote in message .. . Cut the religious bull**** and pollution. This is an astronomy newsgroup. Hank.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You have your own unintelligent design going on there,it is called the Ra/Dec system applied to heliocentric reasoning,it looks like this - http://www.opencourse.info/astronomy...phere_anim.gif Of course you adore that celestial sphere geometry when you look out on the heavens - http://www.belugalakeobservatory.com...py_700x700.jpg Yourselves and the creationists are well suited,the first time I saw 'intelligent design' appear in the newsgroups I knew what was coming.I actually tried to increase the intellectual standard applied to astronomy in order to counter what will be nothing more than overheated junk from both sides - http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...758f83f565520f I am a Christian and recognise that those of the lowest intelllectual standards will relish the upcoming phony 'debate' on both sides whereas true belief and true science will remain quite apart.I have always promoted the latter and will continue to do so. |
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Anonymous Remailer wrote:
I hope this movie has the impact its producers are hoping for, that the general theory of ID does in fact get included along- side the (officially since 1947) monopolistic theory of EV in the curriculum of accredited universities across America, and this in the very near future, like starting next year in 2009. Meanwhile, the Atheists continue mocking the film, believing that it will have no effect at all. Sadly, they may be right, especially since the bible explicitly says they won't repent, not to the bitter end. If history is any judge...enough said. "If history is any judge...enough said." The official archives of history is always recorded and/or excluded by those in charge. Of Zionist and Hitler would not have wanted it any other way. Our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) is further proof-positive of whatever goes into history is the born-again words as only their God sees fit. .. - Brad Guth |
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"Astronomy Joe" skrev i en meddelelse ... Cut the religious bull**** and pollution. This is an astronomy newsgroup. Hank. I really like that one.. That made for a good day.. Thanks, Steve Unfortunately, the people posting that stuff here do not listen to our complaints. John Savard Hi guys.. Yes, sadly astronomy talk in here gradually seems to be an exception to the religious rule. But these religious mental-shortcuts continue rattling off, They should get into their own groups, that goes to newsgroups as well.... perhaps something like brainwash.nowiamabeliever.tocomornotto.com Any other suggestions ;-) Hank |
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