NASA 'Scramjet' Launched on Mach 10 Try

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 04:08:12 -0600, Pat Flannery
wrote:

Wouldn't that look great in the Smithsonian Air & Space museum with
their X-15 on the pylon?

....Probably if they just used the wing, it wouldn't be too bad a fit.

OM

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Gordon Tisher wrote:

Are you sure they weren't Seabird Seekers?
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...d/iraq/aac.htm

They look sorta the same if you squint hard enough.



You caught me- they were indeed Seabird Seekers.
You know, that almost looks like a landbased derivative of the Seabee;
did somebody rip off the design?

Pat

OM wrote:

...Probably if they just used the wing, it wouldn't be too bad a fit.


I had a more radical idea; split the B-52 in half vertically down its
centerline, so that people can see the whole innards of the aircraft
from one side, and then hang the X-15 from the starboard wing pylon-
with one of the engine nacelles dissected so that you can see all the
inner workings of the turbojets. The high pressure air driven electrical
power system of the aircraft would be fascinating to see, and you could
even hang a little something nasty in the bomb bay- say one of these:
http://mt.sopris.net/mpc/military/v/...omb.mark17.jpg

Pat

I had a more radical idea; split the B-52 in half vertically down its
centerline, so that people can see the whole innards of the aircraft
from one side, and then hang the X-15 from the starboard wing pylon-
with one of the engine nacelles dissected so that you can see all the
inner workings of the turbojets. The high pressure air driven electrical
power system of the aircraft would be fascinating to see, and you could
even hang a little something nasty in the bomb bay- say one of these:
http://mt.sopris.net/mpc/military/v/...omb.mark17.jpg

What, no grafitti written on the bomb? "Hi There" "Dear John"

"Robert Casey" wrote in message
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rk wrote:

NASA 'Scramjet' Launched on Mach 10 Try

LOS ANGELES (AP) - A tiny unmanned NASA "scramjet" soared above the
Pacific
Ocean Tuesday at nearly 10 times the speed of sound, or almost 7,000
mph, in a
successful demonstration of a radical new engine technology

Heard a news report saying something about this technology
might be used in commercial aviation. But if the SST bombed
(expensive and a fuel hog) how would this scramjet airliner
"fly"? A ticket can't cost more than regular airfare plus
maybe, as an upper limit, $30 an hour of time saved by getting
there faster. $30 being what the average business travler's
time would be worth.
It probably isn't for the average business traveler, but for the high-priced
one. Remember that the labor cost is not just salary, but includes fringe
etc. If the traveler is billing for hours, it also includes overhead. A
contracting consultant engineer often costs $100 or more per hour. I
recently flew out to California for a three hour meeting. I ended up putting
about 13 hours of travel time in, plus a hotel stay.

With a flight time across the atlantic of a little over an hour, the
scramjet allows you to schedule same-day meetings, which avoids jet lag
(mostly.) One of the problems with the SST was that it just wasn't that much
faster than a conventional jet. The scramjet is.

As a scenario, suppose that you need an overseas meeting over two days and
that being there in person is a must. With the scramjet, you have maybe four
hours of extra travel time, so you lose at most a half-day of work.
(Assuming that you charge travel and don't end up working extra hours.) With
a conventional jet you end up with two extra days of "work" on the plane.
That's $1600 right there.

Another issue is that probably all the seats on the Scramjet will be full
fare.

In article ,
"Neil Gerace" writes:
There were some DC-3s still in RAAF service in the late 1990s. I don't know
how old they were though.

NASA still has at least 1 DC-3. All this summer there's been sume sort
of joint NASA/NOAA project flying out of Pease International Tradeport
(Formerly Pease AFB) up t' Portsmouth, NH. The main mission aircraft
are a DC-8 and a P-3, with a King Air and a DC-3 for logistical
support.

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