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#501
June 9th 04, 01:50 AM
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"LaDonna Wyss" wrote in message om... Yes, you contacted me, and offered to post the FBI information on the Internet. Then you sent me a follow-up email to "verify" I was the person in this message board. THEN you failed to send your mailing address. What should I infer from that? I've already sent you a valid mail address. I'll see if you're really interested in promiting the truth if I receive relevant documents within the week. 
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#502
June 9th 04, 02:01 AM
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On 8 Jun 2004 14:13:15 -0700, (LaDonna Wyss)
wrote: and I notice you STILL have not stepped out of anal-retentiveness long enough to address the perjurous comments made to Congress by Borman ....There's only one comment by Borman that applies to this: quit your ****ing witch hunt and let the program continue. Don't fly your broom into any power lines, eh? OM -- "No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society - General George S. Patton, Jr
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#503
June 9th 04, 02:02 AM
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On 8 Jun 2004 14:06:30 -0700, (LaDonna Wyss)
wrote: If all of the "evidence" Jay Whindley has is the "Hill Report" ....Hmmm. Uses the same insult twist on Jay's name as "scott" did. Interesting. OM -- "No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society - General George S. Patton, Jr
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#505
June 9th 04, 05:12 AM
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OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote in message . ..
On 7 Jun 2004 06:45:26 -0700, (LaDonna Wyss) wrote: **sigh** You don't pay attention, do you? ...Neither do you, you herpes-infected whore. TRIM YOUR GODDAMN QUOTES! OM Woof.
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#506
June 9th 04, 05:33 AM
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On 8 Jun 2004 21:12:03 -0700, (LaDonna Wyss)
wrote: OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote in message . .. On 7 Jun 2004 06:45:26 -0700, (LaDonna Wyss) wrote: **sigh** You don't pay attention, do you? ...Neither do you, you herpes-infected whore. TRIM YOUR GODDAMN QUOTES! Woof. ....Ok, so you've admitted you're a dog as well as a bitch. Now roll over and play dead. OM -- "No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society - General George S. Patton, Jr
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#507
June 9th 04, 06:34 AM
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"LaDonna Wyss" wrote:.
Ummm, since you have "worked with electricity for a long time" then you must realize that on a circuit containing such a short, a fire can start at the point of the short, or at any place along that circuit, or in multiple places along the circuit. You are assuming the fire started behind Panel 8 behind or around the A/C roll switch. Why would anyone assume the fire started behinf MDC Panel 8? The physical evidence supports no such conclusion. It did not. (As a side note, have you been to Scott's website and seen the picture of that microswitch? It is clear something rather powerful blew through that circuit.) "Powerful"? and "blew through"? that circuit? The one at S11? This one? http://www.apollo1.info/images/Apollo1microswitch.jpg I see a nice shiny metallic colored switch that is so clean that I can read the word "MICROSWITCH" (black on silver) that is a size 10 font or smaller. I see a toggle switch that was physically on the heat exposed side of the MDC panel 8 that has suffered moderate heat damage. How about this angle? http://www.apollo1.info/Apollo1RearS11Wires.htm Look at those wires. If they are teflon then they melt at about 550º F. You would see soot covered copper if they had been exposed to significant heat. How about the paint? No blistering, no bubbling, no discoloration and once again we can read something too "S11". In fact the photo is good enough that you can actually see where the microswitch front surface touched that paint because there is a bit of soot surrounding that ring. Look closely. Now the proof is always in the control isn't it? So here is a control photograph that proves the S11 toggle switch is no different than its neighbors. http://www.apollo1.info/Apollo1Front...RollSwitch.htm I see some soot laden MDC 8 metal. I also see moderately heat damaged toggle switches. I see words on the sooted MDC Panel 8. I see clean metal behind the switch 11 finger guard. I see a lock washer impression where switch 11 was once installed. Now I don't see any tell-tale discolored metal consistent with overheating, nor white alpha aluminum oxide deposits. I don't see any evidence of molten metal flow. The fire actually started in the +yaw thruster of the Service Module, and the fire started 22 minutes before NASA claims it did. What part of the RCS was energized? Was it the solenoids? What are the solenoids made of? Which ones? Did any metal melt or burn? Aluminum? Stainless steel? This is important. Where did the smoke escape to from this RCS fire? Remember there were a few open Service Module access panels to facilitate ground equipment access. Did anyone witness this aluminum or stainless steel smoking? What about that wiring in the Service Module? Surely it would have smoked up a storm and escaped the Service Module onto the platforms at levels A7 and A8? The ones where the witnesses were working. Let's follow this to a logical conclusion. Please do explain. Again, if you ever find your way to the National Archives, you will find multiple documents discussing fire damage to Sector One of the Service Module, damage technicians were at a loss to explain. Surely it could not have been caused by the catastrophic failure of the heat shield in multple locations in the middle of a flash fire that burned and smoldered in the ECU area? Further, if you get a copy of the voice transcript, you will find that +yaw thruster misfired the first time Gus pulsed it; he was forced to fire it a second time. He did not fire any RCS thrusters LaDonna. The Service Module RCS wasn't even wired to the CM MDC. Neither was the Command Module RCS. Instead NASA wired the Command Module MDC electronics that command the RCS to "load boxes" and "A14-275 quad simulators" right? Or is this inconvenient part of the report just part of the big coverup too? Oh and it's pages 1139-1140 and 1237 if you don't believe me. Three minutes later, Roger pointed something out to Gus. The transcript is chopped up at this point, but given the crew's next actions it is rather plain Roger saw smoke: And he just stared blankly at the smoke after smelling the suspicious potting material odor earlier all the while knowing he was in a 90+% O2 environment right? Immediately after Roger points something out to Gus, Roger and Gus both open their faceplates and keep them open for approximately a minute. So during this minute of quiet examination of the cabin atmosphere they mime their discussion so Mission Control won't know that they think there could be this significant problem of smoke in the cabin? Reminds me of SCUBA diving when you want to say something you do it with sign language. At 6:24 another crew member opens his faceplate again (ECU data indicates this; no one was speaking at the time so we do not know whose visor it was.) At 6:30:85 Gus opened his faceplate a third time, this time keeping it open THROUGH THE FIRST CALL OF FIRE, which came from Gus, not Roger (this according to Bell Lab's voice tape analysis.) Why is everyone playing musical visors? Think about it for a second and the answer is clear: They are trying to smell what Roger saw: Smoke. Unfortunately, due to the outflow of oxygen from the suits they were unable to do so. It is amazing that through all of the musical visors, no one ever says a word about what they are doing or why. Finally, as I said, go look at the picture of the microswitch. It speaks for itself. Indeed it does. Daniel
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#508
June 9th 04, 06:42 AM
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"Scott Hedrick" wrote in message .. .
"LaDonna Wyss" wrote in message om... I think Scott handled this one just fine. He gets lots of practice from his mom. Shut the hell up about Betty. She's had quite enough grief in 37 1/2 years of NASA bull****.
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#509
June 9th 04, 06:52 AM
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Herb Schaltegger wrote in message ...
In article , (LaDonna Wyss) wrote: Herb Schaltegger wrote in message ... In article , (Scott Grissom) wrote: the joke is on you......she's all yours, mosley. hlol. Well, look who finally showed up. Do you have answers to Jay Windley's questions yet? If all of the "evidence" Jay Whindley has is the "Hill Report" . . . Why don't you go back about a year and read all of "scott's" replies to Jay's questions before you ask uninformed ones such as the one above? And while you're at is, how about you answer my questions about LiOH canister testing? Or respond to Scott Hedrick's questions regarding your "teammates?" Or respond to rk's questions and comments regarding the electrical loads, impedances, resistances and cabling, and Michael Gardner's comments as well, regarding your conclusory statements made earlier? How am I uninformed? I spend several days in here listening to people babble on about the "Hill Report" (which there is no such thing); then I find out what you're really talking about is Sensenbrenner's follow-up to the Grissoms after he ate NASA's b.s. from Heffernan hook-line-and-sinker. You people don't even know the difference between a "report" and a freaking letter! Now, I'm supposed to be answering questions from Michael Gardner (which if he posted I'm very sorry but Google doesn't post in order and I haven't seen his post as yet), when not ONE of you has had ANYTHING intelligent to say about the ten different perjurous statements NASA made before Congress. Hello, are you people paying me to waste my time spoon-feeding you? Do your homework; read the posts, and when you have an intelligent comment I will be happy to respond.
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#510
June 9th 04, 08:10 AM
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"Charleston" wrote:
"LaDonna Wyss" wrote:. Correction of previous post. Surely it could not have been caused by the catastrophic failure of the heat shield in multiple locations in the middle of a flash fire that burned and smoldered in the ECU area? "heat shield" should be "aft bulkhead" and "flash fire" should be "aggressive fire" -- Daniel http://www.challengerdisaster.info Mount Charleston, not Charleston, SC
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