For Rand

On 18 Sep 2003 19:29:30 -0700, in a place far, far away,
(Al Jackson) made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

You know , I expressed this before,
and I don't know who make the quote,

Some idiot.

"The United States,
is the only country , in history,
to go from
Frontier,
to Decadence,
without going through ,
Enlightenment."

And Rand, can take that, and stick it where the 'sun does not shine.'!

Gee, how polite.

Because you will never give me a rational argument why it is not true!

First, one would have to provide a rational argument why it is true,
rather than simply repeating someone else's blather. I'm at a loss as
to why the burden should be on me to prove the negative.

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On 19 Sep 2003 06:50:37 -0700, in a place far, far away,
(Al Jackson) made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

Because you will never give me a rational argument why it is not true!

First, one would have to provide a rational argument why it is true,
rather than simply repeating someone else's blather. I'm at a loss as
to why the burden should be on me to prove the negative.

Welp, you all ways seem not to notice that there is a burden of proof on you
for the short , no analysis, answers you give most of the time. I know you
get a lot of messages to answer, still , would like to see a rational argument.

A rational argument against *what*?

If you're going to spout off some trite mal mot, the burden is on you
to defend it, not on me to rebut it, when neither I (nor probably
anyone else here) even knows what it means, or what your point is.

When you can put up a rational argument in its defense, then someone
might have a chance of (and be interested in) arguing against it, but
until then, it's just a bunch of blather.

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h (Rand Simberg) wrote in message . ..
On 19 Sep 2003 06:50:37 -0700, in a place far, far away,
(Al Jackson) made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

Because you will never give me a rational argument why it is not true!

First, one would have to provide a rational argument why it is true,
rather than simply repeating someone else's blather. I'm at a loss as
to why the burden should be on me to prove the negative.

Welp, you all ways seem not to notice that there is a burden of proof on you
for the short , no analysis, answers you give most of the time. I know you
get a lot of messages to answer, still , would like to see a rational argument.

A rational argument against *what*?

If you're going to spout off some trite mal mot, the burden is on you
to defend it, not on me to rebut it, when neither I (nor probably
anyone else here) even knows what it means, or what your point is.

When you can put up a rational argument in its defense, then someone
might have a chance of (and be interested in) arguing against it, but
until then, it's just a bunch of blather.

Well the thought is not blather,
it speaks for itself,
but our conversation is blather!
You answer too many messages here!

On 19 Sep 2003 15:11:31 -0700, in a place far, far away,
(Al Jackson) made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

When you can put up a rational argument in its defense, then someone
might have a chance of (and be interested in) arguing against it, but
until then, it's just a bunch of blather.

Well the thought is not blather,
it speaks for itself,

Not to me.

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Al Jackson wrote:

Well the thought is not blather, it speaks for itself,

And it says 'Al Jackson is an idiot'.

Paul

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:08:03 -0500, in a place far, far away, "Paul F.
Dietz" made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a
way as to indicate that:

Al Jackson wrote:

Well the thought is not blather, it speaks for itself,

And it says 'Al Jackson is an idiot'.

Gee, someone more blunt than me.

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on 18 Sep 2003 19:29:30 -0700, Al Jackson sez:
` You know , I expressed this before,
` and I don't know who make the quote,
`
` "The United States,
` is the only country , in history,
` to go from
` Frontier,
` to Decadence,
` without going through ,
` Enlightenment."
`

Well, I have no idea who said that, perhaps someone suffering from
emphasema, but a rather similar quip, without all the commas, was
made by Oscar Wilde some time around the turn of the 20th century
after his visit.


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Pete Vincent
Disclaimer: all I know I learned from reading Usenet.

"Paul F. Dietz" wrote in message ...
Al Jackson wrote:

Well the thought is not blather, it speaks for itself,

And it says 'Al Jackson is an idiot'.

Paul

You really mean that?

Actually the quote is:

"America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence
without civilization in between."

--Oscar Wilde

I thought the rephrasing 'enlightment' was better, tho, I did not make
it
up, I am not sure who did.
(Could have been HL Mencken.)
I don't see any idiocy in the phrase. I seems to have come true.
Tho if the planet lasts , America will go through enlightment, it is
coming.

By the by , we know each other , I think, ... you don't want to be as
rude
as I was!? Do you!?

Al Jackson wrote:

(pete) wrote in message ...
on 18 Sep 2003 19:29:30 -0700, Al Jackson sez:
` You know , I expressed this before,
` and I don't know who make the quote,
`
` "The United States,
` is the only country , in history,
` to go from
` Frontier,
` to Decadence,
` without going through ,
` Enlightenment."
`

Well, I have no idea who said that, perhaps someone suffering from
emphasema, but a rather similar quip, without all the commas, was
made by Oscar Wilde some time around the turn of the 20th century
after his visit.

You are right, tho , someone, not me, reformulated it.


And even accepting for the moment that it's true, what's it got to do
with anything here?

(Al Jackson) wrote in message . com...
Actually the quote is:

"America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence
without civilization in between."

--Oscar Wilde

Oscar Wilde was a wit whose one-liners were never
intended to be taken at face value, and in
dead earnest.

Two other quotes from him may elucidate this point:
"A little sincerity is a dangerous thing, and a great deal
of it is absolutely fatal."

And:
"Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong."