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Earth evacuation
{{Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 00:10:19 GMT
From: Joann Evans And there'd still be the lesser problem of evacuating what could be a very large and densely popoulated area (if ground zero is, say, the US east coast, or central Europe) to somewhere that any practical shelter could hold up.}} I'm sure there are enough motor vehicles (cars, busses, taxis, vans, sport-utility vehicles) in the Eastern USA that we could evacuate the entire population. It takes only a week or so to drive all the way from ground zero to a safe distance. Under martial law, any vehicle driving toward ground zero (to fetch a new passenger load) would be allowed to have only one driver, no passenger, while any vehicle driving away from ground zero would be required to be fully loaded, not just regular loading with seat belts, but extra people (mostly children) lying across the laps of the seated passengers. Underdeveloped areas where hardly anybody has any transportation faster than an elephant or water buffalo or ox might be harder to evacuate. The really nice train system in India for example probably couldn't move much of the population even given a year or two to do it. Central Africa or China would probably be the hardest to evacuate. How would Islands such as Japan fare? Assuming good weather, would large numbers of rafts/ferries and fishing/whaling boats be available and effective? |
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blowing up KBOs (was Earth evacuation)
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...we sit and watch the fireworks of the first, as it punches a hole through the center of the KBO and shock waves pulverize most of the rest of the KBO, then the rubble pile collapses under self-gravity... Uh, note that KBOs probably are not rubble piles. The rubble-pile theory gets hyped too much. It is far from certain that even the lighter asteroids are rubble piles -- there *are* other theories for their low density. There is clear evidence that Eros in particular is *not* a rubble pile; probably few or none of the denser asteroids are. Furthermore, the KBOs almost certainly have a very different history than inner-system asteroids, with far fewer collisions. And they probably have very different compositions too. And the proposed 320km object is, in any case, probably too large to be a rubble pile -- it will have enough gravity to compact itself. Oh yes, and an impactor won't "punch a hole through" an asteroid. At such velocities, intuitive models of impact dynamics based on human experience at low speed are simply wrong. The impact is primarily an *explosion*. It will blow out a crater and throw out ejecta; if it is big enough, it will break up the larger body entirely. -- MOST launched 1015 EDT 30 June, separated 1046, | Henry Spencer first ground-station pass 1651, all nominal! | |
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Earth evacuation
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... {{Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 00:10:19 GMT From: Joann Evans And there'd still be the lesser problem of evacuating what could be a very large and densely popoulated area (if ground zero is, say, the US east coast, or central Europe) to somewhere that any practical shelter could hold up.}} I'm sure there are enough motor vehicles (cars, busses, taxis, vans, sport-utility vehicles) in the Eastern USA that we could evacuate the entire population. It takes only a week or so to drive all the way from ground zero to a safe distance. Under martial law, any vehicle driving toward ground zero (to fetch a new passenger load) would be allowed to have only one driver, no passenger, while any vehicle driving away from ground zero would be required to be fully loaded, not just regular loading with seat belts, but extra people (mostly children) lying across the laps of the seated passengers. Most people would want to bring their stuff with them. I drive a Nissan Sentra and the basic essentials would fill up my car. If I'm expecting a major disaster, I wouldn't trust a moving company. U-Haul will run out of trailers real fast. They could pay people to drive trailers towards the disaster zone. Underdeveloped areas where hardly anybody has any transportation faster than an elephant or water buffalo or ox might be harder to evacuate. Many people are capable of walking 3000 miles in a year. Finding food along the way would be difficult. The government would have to set up free restaurants along the road (or pay existing restaurants). If you only have time to cover 200 miles, then people in the center of the blast zone will be toast, but people farther away may have time to move to safer ground. What happens if two countries build bomb shelters and then it is discovered that one of them will be destroyed? People in that country will want to move to the other country. |
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