Origin of the Universe

nightbat wrote

Nightphoenix wrote:

Can experts now explain the origin of the universe? Many
scientists, uncomfortable with the idea that the universe was created
by a higher intelligence, speculate that by some mechanism it created
itself out of nothing. Does that sound reasonable to you? Such
speculations usually involve some variation of a theory (inflationary
universe model) conceived in 1979 by physicist Alan Guth. Yet, more
recently, Dr. Guth admitted that his theory "does not explain how the
universe arose from nothing." Dr. Andrei Linde was more explicit in a
Scientific American article: "Explaining this initial
singularity—where and when it all began—still remains the most
intractable problem of modern cosmology."

By the way the inflation theory speculates as to what happened a
fraction of a second after the beginning of the universe. Advocates of
inflation hold that the universe was initially submicroscopic and then
inflated faster than the speed of light, a claim that cannot be tested
in a laboratory just like evolution as the origin of man. Inflation
remains a debated theory.

nightbat

Key word used in post above is speculates, nuff said about Alan
Guth. On the other hand the nightbat pre Universe premise remains in
mathematical proof.

ponder on,
the nightbat

Nightbat There is no place for the meaning of "nothing" in our
universe. The universe has 'everything" It can have the greatest
density of energy and matter,as inside a black hole or the leased amount
as to be found in deep space between the galaxies. Reality is the space
between the stars is more dynamic than the core fusion of the stars.
Going back before the big bang there was only the intrinsic energy of
space,and the force of gravity,and just look what gravity accomplished
since then as of "now" TreBert

nightbat wrote

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:

Nightbat There is no place for the meaning of "nothing" in our
universe. The universe has 'everything" It can have the greatest
density of energy and matter,as inside a black hole or the leased amount
as to be found in deep space between the galaxies. Reality is the space
between the stars is more dynamic than the core fusion of the stars.
Going back before the big bang there was only the intrinsic energy of
space,and the force of gravity,and just look what gravity accomplished
since then as of "now" TreBert

nightbat

Correct my presently confused split mental profound Officer
student, energy was there before all and will always be. Big Bang
nullified, and there are no black holes only in some sci fi induced
minds, shoot some say I even got Hawking to switch after 30 years didn't
I. Energy can never be nothing even if we presently can't detect it in
the sub quantum, but it's there. Energy is the dimension we live in just
like the little fishes in the great sea just ask Officer oc. Your
Officer Bert body days are number Trebert
enjoy them while you can.

carry on,
the nightbat