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Dragon to cost about $140 million per launch
http://www.spacex.com/press.php?page=20111020
"Now that the Space Shuttle program has ended, the United States relies on the Russian Soyuz spacecraft for astronaut transport, costing American taxpayers as much as $62 million a seat. By comparison, Dragon is designed to carry seven astronauts at a time for an unparalleled $20 million per seat." Roughly one-tenth the cost of STS. |
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Dragon to cost about $140 million per launch
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:49:16 +1100, Alan Erskine
wrote: http://www.spacex.com/press.php?page=20111020 "Now that the Space Shuttle program has ended, the United States relies on the Russian Soyuz spacecraft for astronaut transport, costing American taxpayers as much as $62 million a seat. By comparison, Dragon is designed to carry seven astronauts at a time for an unparalleled $20 million per seat." Roughly one-tenth the cost of STS. Of course, Shuttle lugged along 50,000 lbs. of goodies in the payload bay... Brian |
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Dragon to cost about $140 million per launch
I would remind you that its actually only believable when its working
reliably. There is a history of promises of cheaper flights for human cargo, and yet, as yet, its not actually made it to the real world. In the main, the private companies are going to start by doing it cheap and attempt to corner any market and then rise the cost to cover their loses once the industry becomes relient on them, in much the same way as private contractors have in the past, but as sub contractors. All you are doing is adding another layer of contractor. In theory, it should be cheaper to do it with the clout of a government agency, but the real problems have come from the organisation as being the only game in town, there was never any incentive for the parts to be competitive. Be interesting to see just how much waste there was. However if the Shuttle had been private it might never have happened at all. Brian -- Brian Gaff - Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! "Jeff Findley" wrote in message ... In article . com, says... http://www.spacex.com/press.php?page=20111020 "Now that the Space Shuttle program has ended, the United States relies on the Russian Soyuz spacecraft for astronaut transport, costing American taxpayers as much as $62 million a seat. By comparison, Dragon is designed to carry seven astronauts at a time for an unparalleled $20 million per seat." Roughly one-tenth the cost of STS. If SpaceX can achieve this cost, we can finally give both the Russian Progress (cargo) and Soyuz (crew) each a big, American, single finger salute. ;-) Jeff -- " Ares 1 is a prime example of the fact that NASA just can't get it up anymore... and when they can, it doesn't stay up long. " - tinker |
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On 25/10/2011 10:39 AM, Brian Thorn wrote:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:49:16 +1100, Alan Erskine wrote: http://www.spacex.com/press.php?page=20111020 "Now that the Space Shuttle program has ended, the United States relies on the Russian Soyuz spacecraft for astronaut transport, costing American taxpayers as much as $62 million a seat. By comparison, Dragon is designed to carry seven astronauts at a time for an unparalleled $20 million per seat." Roughly one-tenth the cost of STS. Of course, Shuttle lugged along 50,000 lbs. of goodies in the payload bay... Brian It never (or very rarely) carried that much. What was the heaviest payload _actually_ carried? |
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On 25/10/2011 5:10 PM, JF Mezei wrote:
Alan Erskine wrote: on the Russian Soyuz spacecraft for astronaut transport, costing American taxpayers as much as $62 million a seat. But if they travelled as space tourists, it would only cost $20 million :-) is that $62m/seat figure trustable or just some exageration ? Does a Soyuz launch really cost $186 million dollars ? (3*62) Might include specialised training. |
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On 25/10/2011 10:39 AM, Brian Thorn wrote:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:49:16 +1100, Alan Erskine wrote: http://www.spacex.com/press.php?page=20111020 "Now that the Space Shuttle program has ended, the United States relies on the Russian Soyuz spacecraft for astronaut transport, costing American taxpayers as much as $62 million a seat. By comparison, Dragon is designed to carry seven astronauts at a time for an unparalleled $20 million per seat." Roughly one-tenth the cost of STS. Of course, Shuttle lugged along 50,000 lbs. of goodies in the payload bay... Brian Even if it was for cargo and crew, it's still hugely expensive compared to Falcon 9. Hell, a Falcon Heavy would still only be $742 million per flight (53 tonnes/10 [rough payload of Falcon 9] x $140) and would be able to launch the proposed HL42 (bigger brother to the HL20) with capacity to spare. |
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"JF Mezei" wrote in message
eb.com... Alan Erskine wrote: on the Russian Soyuz spacecraft for astronaut transport, costing American taxpayers as much as $62 million a seat. But if they travelled as space tourists, it would only cost $20 million :-) The $20M price was years ago. Reportedly it's higher now, but I've never seen firm numbers. is that $62m/seat figure trustable or just some exageration ? Does a Soyuz launch really cost $186 million dollars ? (3*62) Cost? Or price. I'm sure it doesn't COST the Russians that much. They're just good capitalists who currently have a monopoly on the market. -- Greg D. Moore President Green Mountain Software http://www.greenms.com Help honor our WWII Veterans: http://www.honorflight.org/ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur. |
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Dragon to cost about $140 million per launch
In article , bthorn64
@suddenlink.net says... On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:49:16 +1100, Alan Erskine wrote: http://www.spacex.com/press.php?page=20111020 "Now that the Space Shuttle program has ended, the United States relies on the Russian Soyuz spacecraft for astronaut transport, costing American taxpayers as much as $62 million a seat. By comparison, Dragon is designed to carry seven astronauts at a time for an unparalleled $20 million per seat." Roughly one-tenth the cost of STS. Of course, Shuttle lugged along 50,000 lbs. of goodies in the payload bay... So you launch cargo on a Dragon cargo flight. But comparing apples to apples, you'd need to compare the *contents* of an MPLM to the contents of a Dragon cargo mission. The only time the MPLM was a useful payload, in and of itself, was when it became a *Permanent* Logistics Module. That happened just *one* time in all of the flights of MPLM's to ISS. So a shuttle mission could be compared to multiple Dragon cargo and taxi flights. The math is a bit more complex, but I'm pretty sure that in the end, Falcon and Dragon flights still beat a shuttle flight with an MPLM on cost. Jeff -- " Ares 1 is a prime example of the fact that NASA just can't get it up anymore... and when they can, it doesn't stay up long. " - tinker |
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