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fake physics offerings and who has time to point out their fakery if Dirac had the Atom Totality
"John C. Polasek" wrote in message
... On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 20:17:40 -0800, "FrediFizzx" wrote: "John C. Polasek" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 13:28:23 -0800, "FrediFizzx" wrote: "John C. Polasek" wrote in message m... On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 18:21:34 -0800, "FrediFizzx" wrote: choppo Do a googlegroup search on my handle and your name. You should be able to figure it out from the vacuum expectation value of about 246 GeV. "The vacuum expectation value" is defined how? From the Fermi Coupling Constant, G_F/(hbar*c)^3 = 1.16637 ×10^-5 GeV^-2 Your theory so far totally ignores this constant. It can't be ignored in any sensible theory that deals with the "vacuum". There is more to the "vacuum" than just eps0 and mu0. The Fermi Coupling Constant is proof of that. Fredi I gave it a shot, looked up Fermis CC and find no substantive description of its function. Of course first I had to find out what Gf was and could not find it so I solved for it: Gf = 1.378e-62 J m^3= 8.6*10^-53 m^3 GeV What do you make of this? Always something interesting going on in QED, but unfortunately not science. . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi's_interaction If you had yourself a good particle physics book, you would know what to make of it. But since you might be trying, here it is. You will have to swallow the cgs pill as I am not going to convert it to SI. You can do that on your own. If you get stuck, ask for help. G_F is pretty much obtainable from the decay of a muon and muon mass and lifetime. The muon lifetime equation is, tau = 192*pi^3*hbar^7/(G_F^2*m_u^5*c^4) Where tau is the muon lifetime and m_u is muon mass. The rest are obvious. Since the muon's mass and lifetime are determined experimentally, we can plug those values in and obtain a value for Fermi's constant, G_F. The Wiki page is in natural units and has left out the (hbar*c)^3. In cgs it is, G_F = sqrt(2)/8 (g_w/M_W*c^2)^2 (hbar*c)^3 ~= 1.28E-52 m^3 GeV You must have made a mistake in your calc above. Since the mass of the W boson is known, then the weak coupling constant can be computed from the above expression. It comes out that g_w ~= 0.66. But anywise, what does this all have to do with the "vacuum"? Well, it is easy to see in the expression above that we have (hbar*c)^3 which is quantum "vacuum" charge, sqrt(hbar*c), to the sixth power! So it must be related to the quantum "vacuum". The "vacuum" is not just electromagnetic. It is "electroweak". If you really have the gumption, you could get corresponding "vacuum" constant values for the electroweak "vacuum" for what eps0 and mu0 would be in SI units. Then after you do that, the QCD sector should also have corresponding "vacuum" constants also. Then you will have a more complete picture of the quantum "vacuum". Your lesson for today: Now see if you can find out how G_F is related to the vev = 246 GeV. It is posted online in quite a few places. I will continue with it tomorrow if you get stuck. Thanks Fredi, I worked your tau = 192*pi^3*hbar^7/(G_F^2*m_u^5*c^4) as tau = 2.9us vs 2.2us using my bogus value for GF. I didn't want you to go through all that work. I like to work from scratch and I'm danged if I would continue if I started wading into terms like pi^3, hb^7, mu^5 and c^4. I'd be too suspicious. I like the 192 though. We could maybe salvage something there. Oops, sorry. Your value was right. I had 1.6637 instead of 1.16637. Dropped a one there. What can I tell you? The decay of the muon is worked out *from scratch* using QM and the Standard Model in any good particle physics textbook and that expression is the result and matches experimental evidence. You should do yourself a favor and take a look to see where all the terms come from. ;-) It is only about 3 1/2 pages long. Not too bad. OK, guess you got stuck on finding out how G_F is related to vev ~= 246 GeV. It is very simple. Here it is, G_F/(hbar*c)^3 = 1/(sqrt(2)(vev)^2) Solve and get vev ~= 246.22 GeV FrediFizzx Quantum Vacuum Charge papers; http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/qu...uum_charge.pdf or postscript http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/qu...cuum_charge.ps http://www.arxiv.org/abs/physics/0601110 http://www.vacuum-physics.com |
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does life or biology give an example of the nested function? if experiments prove to us that the vacuum is teaming full of energy, then why not believe that protons, electrons, quarks have atoms inside themselves
Physics of the Atom Totality gives the most exquisite example wherein
an electron can contain galaxies, stars and planets and Earth. And this is the most profound difference between Atom Totality theory and Big Bang. There really is nothing controversial about the Big Bang theory and it will lead to its trashcanning. In mathematics there is this nested function in that the numbers are all nested into the number 1. Now I am told that in physics there is another nested function in holograms. I am told that if you have a hologram and cut a tiny piece off, that this tiny piece has the entire whole hologram within it. At least that is what I am told but have never witnessed this. Now does life or biology have a nested function? I think it does, only not as exquisite as the Atom Totality but a subdued nested function. I speak of the fact that animal and plant bodies are composed of cells. And can we think of the entire body as a gigantic cell. So that if we were to pluck a few cells off the whole body, it is a smaller body in and of itself, and can grow to be the larger whole body. It is good that I spend some time on this topic of nested function because I did not spend much time during the 1990s. And it is the most profound feature of the Atom Totality theory. In the 1990s I had a discussion with a Stanford physicist who believed the resolution scale difference between quantum mechanics and astro physics was the heart of solving both. And the Atom Totality theory addresses the scale difference. And it is the heart of the theory, in that an atom held in a hand is the same as the entire Universe itself. That is both bizarre and profound. And causes the scale problems. But as I said in an earlier post today, if you can accept the fact that Experimental Physics of the 20th century already proved that the vacuum of Space is teeming full of energy and of positrons, then you can easily accept the idea that a proton or electron or quark is teeming full of atoms. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |
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part-whole identity of Quantum Mechanics and is it equivalent to particle wave duality?
I mentioned many times on the Internet in the 1990s what I thought of
philosophy and religion compared to science. I thought that philosophy and religion are pre-science. Subjects that address issues when no science exists on those issues. Sort of like explorers for the truth. Once science gets into a subject it reveals the truth of the subject and philosophy and religion are first explorers whose findings seldom attain real truth. Now I called this feature of the Atom Totality theory a nested function of where the whole universe is one big atom the same as a atom of 231Pu held in the hand. And the feature that a electron is composed of many atoms. I called it nested function but I do not like that label. Better yet is to call it part-whole identity. So I am on the very foundation of Quantum Mechanics by asking whether this feature of part-whole identity is equivalent to a well known feature of Quantum Mechanics -- particle wave duality? So I am like a philosopher of Quantum Mechanics at this moment by asking whether I can derive part-whole identity from particle-wave duality? I am exploring the most basic and fundamental ideas of Quantum Mechanics-- particle wave duality and wondering if it yields part-whole identity? In 20th century physics, particle wave duality was the most basic and fundamental idea in Quantum Mechanics. But with the Atom Totality theory, there is a new fundamental idea. The idea that the entire observable Universe of night sky with galaxies and stars and planets are all bits and pieces of the last 6 electrons of 231Pu. So how can an electron be composed of atoms? This is part-whole identity. Does it come from particle wave duality or is it independent? And which is the more basic and fundamental? Does particle wave duality arise from part-whole identity? In the 1990s I also emphasized in many posts to the Internet that I thought of particle wave duality as the existence function of Quantum Mechanics. That you need two items in order for either one to exist. You need something in order to talk about nothing. You need nothing in order to talk about something. You need wave in order to see a particle and you need a particle in order to make out a wave. So if particle wave duality is the existence function for Quantum Mechanics, what is the whole-part identity? If it is another existence function, then those two (particle-wave and whole-part) are equivalent. But if it is a different serving function then they are not equivalent. To me, whole-part identity is a building block of the Universe. If I built a concrete block house, then the building block are individual concrete block. To build a Universe, atoms are the building block, but why should the entire Universe itself be the same as a number of its parts? And why should a subatomic particle consist of atoms? I can say this much with some assurance, that if I were some God with the task of building a Universe from scratch, and I was a God with simplicity in mind, then the most simple Universe to construct would be one in which the Whole was the same as its parts. I mean you cannot make a more simple design than that, for every other Universe would have to be markedly more complex and complicated. I think perhaps the answer my lie within the Maxwell Equations. Notice that 2 of the equations are static and 2 are in motion or dynamic. And look at the particle-wave duality, is it not a static principle telling us that existence occurs when things come in complementary pairs. And look at the whole-part-identity, for is that a dynamic feature. Is that not a feature telling us how the Universe is built and constructed. Now of course in building a concrete house, the house will not be or look like a individual block when finished. But it could look and be a big block if one had a mind of building a big block from smaller blocks. What I am trying to get at, or probe or penetrate is the idea that a Quantum Mechanics principle or feature of part-whole-identity is a dynamic mechanism for which to grow or build the universe. If its Whole is the same as some of its parts, then its reason for existence is to grow and build some more. Now I am well aware that the above is philosophical ramblings by me, but once an experiment or reference to older experiments relates to any of the above, then the above quickly becomes science and no longer philosophical ramblings. And let us bring into the conversation that of life. Is not the idea that the human body is composed of cells while the whole body, although it does not look like a cell, could be construed as a cell. And so what would be the "benefit" to life to have such a system where the parts of the whole resemble one another? Is it because whenever parts and whole resemble one another that the system has the maximum growth or maximum increase? I need to explore more. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |
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whether the Cosmos needs 2 monopoles Dirac's page 46 Directions in Physics and why it is important to have the existence of monopoles
Now I am not sure if all of Space as a Sea of Positrons is considered a
monopole of + charge, I am not sure that the Universe needs a second monopole existing somewhere. Whether all the electrons of the Atom Totality would constitute a second monopole as - charged. You see, the theory that Dirac spells out on his page 46 Directions in Physics enunciates the existence of at least one monopole in all the Universe. Whether 2 monopoles are required is not elucidated by Dirac. I suppose I can look upon the observational data as for any clue. If there is some vast matter to antimatter annihilation taking place in the Cosmos would point to the existence of 2 monopoles. Perhaps this is what is occurring in the case of quasar energies. That quasars are so gravitationally dense stars that they begin to envelope the Space in which they occupy and thus bring into contact positrons of the Space in annihilation with electrons of mass of the quasar star. So the energy of quasars are likely to be matter-antimatter annihilation due to strong gravity. If that is true, then the Cosmos has at least 2 monopoles-- Sea of Positrons that constitues Space itself and secondly all the mass and matter we see is part of another monopole. I would hazard to guess that there must exist at least 2 monopoles. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |
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P.B. Price lexan experiments for monopole and is Price still alive? Dirac's page 46 Directions in Physics and why it is important to have the existence of monopoles
a_plutonium wrote: I read further on where Dirac describes a Price experiment with Lexan etchings to see if monopole trail can be discovered. And Dirac called Alvarez over this Price experiment but Alvarez was skeptical. Perhaps Alvarez at that moment in his life was more focused on meteors extincting dinosaurs than on fundamental physics. I do not know how the Price Lexan experiment ever turned out. --- quoting http://prola.aps.org/abstract/PRL/v35/i17/p1167_1 --- Phys. Rev. Lett. 35, 1167 - 1169 (1975) [Issue 17 - October 1975] Comments on the Reported Observation of a Monopole M. W. Friedlander McDonnell Center for Space Sciences and Department of Physics, Washington University, St. Louis, Missouri 63130 Received 25 August 1975 It is shown that the cosmic-ray event recently interpreted as the track of a Dirac monopole can instead be plausibly described in terms of the interaction of an ultraheavy cosmic-ray nucleus, having Z~96 and velocity ~0.72c. Original: P. B. Price, E. K. Shirk, W. Z. Osborne, and L. S. Pinsky, Evidence for Detection of a Moving Magnetic Monopole, Phys. Rev. Lett. 35, 487 (1975) --- end quoting http://prola.aps.org/abstract/PRL/v35/i17/p1167_1 --- Funny, Dirac did not give the full name of Price in his book so had to search it up. I wonder if Price is still alive. I know Dirac is deceased. But if Price is still alive and in good thinking condition, whether someone can put the question to him--- suppose Space is the Dirac Sea of Positrons and would that Space being all + charged, constitute a magnetic monopole? Then put this question to Price, given an Atom Totality theory where all mass and matter that we see in stars and galaxies and planets is all parts and pieces of the electron mass of the Atom Totality, and would that constitute another magnetic monopole, that is a negative charged magnetic monopole? It is best to ask the old guard of physics who actually worked and had history on the subject. And I suppose Alvarez is also deceased. But the book also mentions a professor George in Syndey. Are all these people deceased? Surely there must be someone alive who is carrying on the search for magnetic monopoles. Because according to the Atom Totality theory, a magnetic monopole is not to be found amoung the stars and galaxies but is to be found as a cosmic phenomenon, and involving the vastness of Space itself. That Space is a magnetic monopole. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |
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Sun perhaps already provides us with the answer Experiment that proves gravity does not exist in nuclear regions of atoms
I wrote a few minutes ago:
(huge snips) So you can kind of see where I am going. That you need a tiny bit less energy to build a new atom of higher atomic number, say hydrogen going into helium, and quite a bit more energy when we want to split apart an atom into smaller atomic numbered atoms, say helium into hydrogen atoms. The more or less energy is to compensate for the force of gravity (if it exists in the nucleus). Our modern day physics devices should be amply refined to be able to distinguish whether this tiny bit more or less energy is involved in building or breaking up of nuclei. I am not aware of any numbers data but I suspect the above experiment has already been performed and no attention paid to the fact that a tiny amount of energy was never accounted for. It was sweep under the carpet and said that it was within "experimental error". But if a good team of experimental physicists would reopen this issue of whether gravity exists inside the nucleus or does not exist, then I think some great new physics will be opened. I reposted to sci.astro because the Sun already is a huge experiment that would prove one way or the other. Previous post I included sci.physics.particle thinking that a particle accelerator or even fusion tokamak machines may be able to pinpoint the small amount of less or greater than energy accounting. But I think the Sun itself in a simple observational physics test can provide the answer. You see, if gravity does not exist in the nucleus of atoms, then the amount of helium in our Sun is biased in favor of more helium than in hydrogen given the time of the Sun's fusion process. If gravity does not exist in nuclei of atoms would favor the larger buildup of helium rather than the reverse of breakup of helium into hydrogen atoms. For it is easier and less energy for hydrogen atoms to buildup into a helium atom than for a helium atom to split apart into hydrogen atoms. If gravity exists in the nuclei of atoms then there is no favoritism, but if gravity does not exist then there is a slight favoritism to buildup heavier nuclei than for there is to split apart. So by careful examination of the Sun or Stars what we should find is a tiny slight increase of helium atoms for which all the other theories cannot account for, except this idea that gravity does not exist in the nuclei of atoms. And there is another experiment involving uranium. The amount of uranium in the Universe is a large amount compared to the preceding elements. The cosmic abundance of uranium is a conundrum. However, if one considers the amount of cosmic abundance of Ac before thorium and of Pa before uranium would suggest that if no gravity exists in the nuclear region of atoms then these abundances make sense. But I think the Sun is our best lab, and to find out if there is a small number of more helium atoms than that accounted for by stellar dynamics. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |
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ratio of helium to hydrogen in Sun indicates gravity does not exist in the nucleus Sun perhaps already provides us with the answer Experiment that proves gravity does not exist in nuclear regions of atoms
In other words, if gravity exists in the nucleus of atoms, then the proportion of helium to hydrogen should be largely in favor of an increased amount of helium nuclei over that of hydrogen nuclei. The reason being very obvious that gravity is a ancillary sideshow phenomenon that Space is a Sea of Positrons. And since a sea of positrons does not exist in the nuclei of atoms, there is no gravity there. Gravity only exists as a force in electron-space-regions of atoms and because our observable universe is the electron space region of the Atom Totality we see gravity. So a careful analysis of the proportion of helium to hydrogen in our Sun or other stars should reveal the fact that there is no "surplus of helium". If gravity existed in nuclei of atoms, the Sun should have a surplus of helium versus hydrogen. And we should be able to perform an experiment where we turn hydrogen into helium and the reverse of where we turn helium into hydrogen. And if, a big if, gravity exists then it should be a tiny bit easier to turn hydrogen into helium and a tiny bit more difficult to turn helium into hydrogen. The difference in energy would be the accounting of gravity. But as far as I know there is no such difference and because there is no difference in energy means that the nuclei of atoms does not have a force of gravity. Gravity does not exist in the nuclei of atoms. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |
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volume of Universe is 10^80 m^3 why gravity as a Coulomb force is 10^40 weaker
a_plutonium wrote: In other words, the piece of paper that holds iron filings with the bar magnet placed below and where we see the nice round outline of the Coulomb force upon the iron filings. What we see on that sheet of paper of its iron filings is 10-40 of the Coulomb force that the bar magnet actually produces. Correction: 10^-40 So any intelligent life form throughout the Cosmos, as they see and observe the force of gravity, are seeing only 1/10^40 of the Sea of Positrons as Space that forms the force of gravity. A close approximation of the volume of the Universe with our present knowledge is about 10^80 m^3 My point of the previous message is that if you look at the iron filings on a sheet of paper with the bar magnet held below then one can envision that the iron filings is only 10^40 of the full strength of the bar magnet. In other words the iron filings is a cross section of the magnetic force of the bar magnet, in which 10^40 other cross sections added would include all the magnetic force of the bar magnet. In a similar argument, when we put the Sea of Positrons that constitutes Space at the nucleus of the Atom Totality and where Sun and planets comprise one cross section of the entire Cosmos, then there are 10^40 more cross sections to comprise the entire Universe. And it may mean that the force of gravity varies with distance in the cosmos at large, just as the iron filings on a sheet of paper vary in magnetic intensity depending on how far away the bar magnet is held to the sheet of paper. So that in the late 1990s when astronomers reported an acceleration of the Cosmic expansion in distant stars, may not be the case, but rather we are seeing a different gravitational intensity in the region of those stars. And if it is found that gravity varies with distance across the Cosmos, may be a help to the mapping of the stars and galaxies in the Universe. At present we have alot of voids and alot of clustering of galaxies (Great Wall), but if gravity intensity varies, then a review of the Cosmic distribution of galaxies my reveal a quantization such that almost every galaxy is arranged in a perfect pattern spaced equidistant. I forget the names of the lead researchers mapping the galaxies of the Cosmos (Huchra comes to mind but memory is not good on this). Anyway, alot of voids and clustering is now seen, but if gravity varies with distance, then a recalibration of all the galaxies may turn out that they are equidistantly spaced with mass as a factor. And so the case maybe that the Earth and Sun and Milky Way galaxy lie in a region of the Cosmos where the cross section of gravity is a 10^40 weaker than EM force and the length of the Cosmos in terms of total number of cross sections is 10^40 and thus the volume of the Cosmos is 10^80. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |
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StrongNuclear confined to nucleus AND, gravity confined to electron-space region; Huchra & Geller is outline of Atom Totality
a_plutonium wrote: (snipped) Maybe our science equipment or instruments are still too primitive to find the alleged gravitational energy residing inside the nuclear region. But that only postpones these experiments until the day we are more advanced in technology. Because the question at stake here, is that all of the science community believes and expects there to be a force of gravity of protons to neutrons or neutrons to neutrons or protons to other protons. But I believe there is no force of gravity in the nucleus of atoms. Just as the StrongNuclear force resides only inside the nuclear region, I surmized from the Atom Totality theory that gravity only resides outside the nuclear region of atoms, and specifically -- in the space where the electron dot cloud resides. So if StrongNuclear force is restricted to only nuclear regions, then we need the experimental proof that gravity either does not reside in the nuclear region or does. Now here is a ascii art work of what the 231Pu Atom Totality looks like. It has 6 lobes represented by the 6 lines and the galaxies would be uniformly spaced but would be more dense and concentrated towards the nucleus and would be sparsed and thinned out as you go a distance from the nucleus. ::\ ::|:: /:: ::\::|::/:: _ _ (:Y - - ::/::|::\:: ::/ ::|:: \:: Now here is a picture from the work of Huchra and Geller of the galactic distribution. http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/~huchra/zcat/ If you look carefully you can see that it is 3 lobes because it is only the northern hemisphere. If the southern hemisphere were mapped then you would probably (not sure) see the continuation of the 3 lobes. The voids, in other words are the demarking of the lobes of the Atom Totality. Now what would be fun to do, is to enter the Huchra & Geller mapping into a supercomputer which is asked to apply a mathematical function. The function being that what would the Huchra & Geller mapping end up as if every galaxy is equidistant with a distance from the nucleus function. You see what I am saying. That the Huchra & Geller mapping is a version of my diagram above. You remember the old puzzles we used to get as young kids when we had dots on a page and once we connected the dots then the outline of the "object" was revealed. Same thing with the Huchra & Geller map above, in that the Universe is a uniform structure because it is an Atom Totality and that the pattern is 6 lobes with galaxies evenly spaced with a distance function. On the subject of StrongNuclear Force with its confinement to the nuclear region. We do not expect to see the StrongNuclear Force outside the nucleus of atoms. Why is this? Because the StrongNuclear force occurrs only when the nuclear-electrons spill out of the neutrons inside the nucleus of atoms and these nuclear-electrons run around holding together all the protons in the nucleus. Nuclear-Electrons are different from the electrons that surround outside the nucleus of atoms, and let me call them Regular-electrons. Regular-Electrons are held to atoms by the Coulomb force and these electrons have a SPACE. And that space is a sea-of-positrons which yields the force we know of as gravity. So, my point is this, we well know that the StrongNuclear force is confined to the nuclear region of atoms due to the characteristics of the Nuclear-Electron. And thus, the Regular-Electron that is outside the nucleus and floats around in a Space outside the nucleus and gives rise to the force of gravity--- that gravity does not exist in the nucleus but only exists where this sea-of-positron Space exists. So we have a completed symmetry of our forces of physics. That the StrongNuclear is confined to only the nucleus and has no gravity within the nucleus, whereas the force of Gravity is confined to only outside the nucleus. Now, when a supercomputer verifies that the above Huchra mapping is a 3 lobed pattern of the northern hemisphere with galaxies equidistant spacings, then the supercomputer would turn around and act as a predictor of where the next unmapped galaxy in fact exists before the observers actually see the galaxy. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies |
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