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  #21  
Old June 20th 11, 12:47 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
Brad Guth[_3_]
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Default Gravity is done by force messengers -not by curved space !!

On Jun 15, 9:59*pm, "Y.Porat" wrote:
On Jun 15, 11:01*pm, "hanson" wrote:









... ahahahaha... This is rich!... ahahahaha... AHAHAHA....


Deranged Kike "jacob navi-ass" wrote: *------------------


From Israel Yehiel, Y.Porat a crit :
a very nice story that we learned
at secondary school in trigonometry
yet Sammi Wormley
a nice story is a nice story for itself but
what is its relevance to out OP *op issue
*in short Sami please tell us 'tachless'
is gravity done by curved space time
or by FORCE MESSENGERS ??
TIA -- Y.Porat


Kike Navi-ass wrote:


snip recital about which Einstein himself said that it was wrong


*I am sure that the antisemitic Einstein haters in this group will
appreciate this news.


hanson wrote:


ahahahaha... and I am sure that Yehiel Porat, who was born
in Israel & who said that he was a proud Zionist will appreciate
that you call him "antisemitic"... ahahahaha.. AHAHAHAHA...


You are some dismal turd, juif Naviass, you are even
worse then "Karandash Dono", who like you is only good
at generating & spreading Anti-Semitism... ahahahaha....


Thanks for the laughs, you dreideling Shaggitz, .... ahahaha
ahahaha... ahahahanson


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BTW *Hanson
to be *frank i and most of nonreligious jews * in Israel
do not 'very *much like (in a big understatement *)--

the *most extremist ' HAREDIM'
*ie people that are more religious than religious
not much for their beliefs * but their aggressive behavior *to *impose
their believes *on others

and worse than that
they are most of them
parasites that do not work !!
yet
that is not all Jews in Isreal
it is i think less than 10 percent
(and mind you *extremists of *other religions are *not much better
in understatement )..

ATB
Y.Porat
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Another contribution from: William Mook
Unfortunately you appear to be right on many of your points. The
owners of the world's central banks control the Federal Reserve. The
Federal Reserve controls Wall Street. Wall Street controls the CIA.
Many of the owners of the central banks identify themselves as Jewish,
and exploit the traditions of Judaism for their own ends. This misuse
of the trust afforded among the members of this community is not a
fault of Judaism, it is the fault of those who abuse that community's
trust.

Also, please recall that 80% of Jews are Ashkenazi Jews and believe in
the religious precepts of the Jewish religion.

Ashkenazi Jews, also known as Ashkenazic Jews or Ashkenazim are the
Jews descended from the medieval Jewish communities along the Rhine in
Germany from Alsace in the south to the Rhineland in the north.

Ashkenaz is the medieval Hebrew name for this region and thus for
Germany. Thus, Ashkenazim or Ashkenazi Jews are literally "German
Jews." Later, Jews from Western and Central Europe came to be called
"Ashkenaz" because the main centers of Jewish learning were located in
Germany.

Many Ashkenazi Jews later migrated, largely eastward, forming
communities in non German-speaking areas, including Hungary, Poland,
Belarus, Lithuania, Russia, Ukraine, Eastern Europe, and elsewhere
between the 11th and 19th centuries.

Although in the 11th century, they composed only 3 percent of the
world's Jewish population, at their peak in 1931, Ashkenazi Jews
accounted for 92 percent of the world's Jews. Today they make up
approximately 80 percent of Jews worldwide. Most Jewish communities
with extended histories in Europe are Ashkenazim, with the exception
of those associated with the Mediterranean region. The majority of the
Jews who migrated from Europe to other continents in the past two
centuries are Ashkenazim, Eastern Ashkenazim in particular.

Yemenite Jews are those Jews who live, or whose recent ancestors
lived, in Yemen. Their definition of Judaism is that of bloodline in
this world, with no religious sentiment whatever. This is the
bloodline that the world's central bank owners claim. Religion for
them is merely a pretext to hide the racial, or bloodline, aspect.
They believe themselves to be superior to all other people and all
others - including other Jews - to be inferior to them, to be
animals.

Between June 1949 and September 1950, the overwhelming majority of
Yemen's Jewish population was transported to Israel in Operation Magic
Carpet. Most Yemenite Jews now live in Israel, with some others in the
United States, and fewer elsewhere. Only a handful remain in Yemen,
mostly elderly.

Yemenite Jews have a unique tradition based on bloodline that marks
them out as separate from Ashkenazi, Sephardi and other Jewish groups
which are more religious and even within this tradition the central
bank owners claim to hold a special place.

It was the Yemenite Jews in Zionist Palestine that brokered the
Transfer Agreement with Germany which refused to admit Ashkenazi Jews
to Palestine preferring to use Hitler as a tool to 'cleanse' Judaism
of 'excessive Ashkenazi influence' while providing Jews a 'seat at the
table' in a post-war world. It was Hitler's hope in 1933 that he
could rid Germany of Zionist influence by transferring all Jews out of
Germany. It was the Yemenite Jews, and the Rothschilds specifically,
that stood in the way of that sentiment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3we8....israel/2005-1...

This is the sort of people we are dealing with and the sort of people
that rule our world.

  #22  
Old June 21st 11, 03:18 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro,sci.math
1treePetrifiedForestLane
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Default Gravity is done by force messengers -not by curved space !!

I already stated,
the curvature of space (not spacetime,
which is merely phase-space, as used in electronics e.g.) was
verified experimentally by Eratosthenes (bce) and
Gauss (with his theodolite, working for France
in the disputed border of Alssace-Lorraine).

some would say, that is just common sense.
  #23  
Old June 21st 11, 09:10 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro,sci.math
Y.Porat[_2_]
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Default Gravity is done by force messengers -not by curved space !!

On Jun 21, 4:18*am, 1treePetrifiedForestLane
wrote:
I already stated,
the curvature of space (not spacetime,
which is merely phase-space, as used in electronics e.g.) was
verified experimentally by Eratosthenes (bce) and
Gauss (with his theodolite, working for France
in the disputed border of Alssace-Lorraine).

some would say, that is just common sense.


----------------
so how does it makes a diverting force on mass
to divert it from its straight line path

the mass in a straight line is a Vector with
straight direction forwards

in order to divert it you need a momentum perpendicular to that first
vector
so
what is the momentum ability of space to do it
2
what about the
CONSERVATION LAW OF MOMENTUM ??
how it is conserved there

or may be you want to claim that
there is no existence to the
very basic law of physics about
conservation of momentum in Gravity process
2
is it possible that the above question was not ever asked in your
text books ?? (:-)
TIA
Y.Porat
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  #24  
Old June 21st 11, 07:29 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
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Default Gravity is done by force messengers -not by curved space !!

Jail-bird G=EMCF^2" "Nazier"
aka Hebe-Herbie Trebert Nazier, whose friend Eli Sharon,
aka El, determined that "herbert has the IQ of a "herb", to
which Hebe-Herbie said: "I have no formal education".
So therefore, 1st things first: Glazier, you are not "Jews".
You are a Kike & a Jail-bird who was in Sheriff Bob
Hansell's Jail where 6 deputies beat the **** out of you
for your domestic terrorism... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAH....
Now that we have your formal introduction behind us let
us belabor your Herbal Tripe he

"herbert glazier" wrote:
Muslim is humankinds worse religion Reason is this "Blow yourself
up and kill non-Muslim's and in heaven you get 72 virgins" O ya It
begs the question. How many virgins did the Muslims get that blew up
the Twin Towers. Was it 72X 3,000 Only their God knows. Praise to
Allah and pass the bombs. TreBert

hanson wrote:
Well, Hebe Herbie, it is true what you said, BUT--- BUT ---
the Muslim Religion would NOT exist (& neither Xtianity) if
it weren't for the initial idiocy of your own Jewish ilk, that
started all this Monotheistic ****, some 35 centuries ago.

After all these eons, your sorry current day ilk still reveres,
as their Patriarch", the psychopath Abe, who had VD and a
disobedient teen age son. Both drove Abe bonkers, to the
point where Abe heard voices in his head.
So Arab Abe circumcised himself with a Flintstone & then
Abe attempted to burn & kill his son on a barbeque.

Abe did belong to the criminal out-cast gang of the Arab
Habaroo (hebrew), a gang that roamed the outskirts of
Ur in Caldea of Arabia. Then Abraham, went to Egypt,
but was kicked out of Egypt where he was pimping his
wife Sarah, after she gave some Egyptian leaders V.D. ...

So, Hebe Herbie stop bagging onto other religions
when you carry religious baggage, as show above (all
directly out of the Torah)... you hated filled olde kacker...

I said that you were right, because it does not bestow
much credit onto the Christians, who signed on to
your spiritual crap, and much less so the Muslims.
But it does NOT mean that -- Jewish **** don;t stink! --


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Old June 22nd 11, 12:41 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro,sci.math
1treePetrifiedForestLane
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Default Gravity is done by force messengers -not by curved space !!

conservation of momentum is not violated by relativity. anyway,
you didn't get what Gauss discoverd, or at least confirmed
on a limited part of Eaaarth.

you believe in Galileo's "kinetic energy equals mopmentum
equals mass times velocity," two?
  #26  
Old June 22nd 11, 05:22 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro,sci.math
Y.Porat[_2_]
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Default Gravity is done by force messengers -not by curved space !!

On Jun 22, 1:41*am, 1treePetrifiedForestLane
wrote:
conservation of momentum is not violated by relativity. *anyway,

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it is against GR !!
ie
you still didnt understood my argument!!

lest take for simplicity and to amke it more tasngible and obvious --a
big mass or a small mass its the same

a bi mass if not acted by any force
is moving in a straight line right
and it has a momentum directed exactly forwards
right ??

now
in order to divert ITS DIRECTION
in order to divert its direction
AND IN ORDER KEEP THE LAW OF CONSERVATION OF MOMENTUM
you need some external Momentum to divert its direction
right ??
2
who AND HOW supplied that external Momentum -

in order to keep the law of
CONSERVATION OF MOMENTUM !!
3
do you believe that
**conservation of momentum**
is one of the supper
acknowledged conventioned basics of physics laws
(or may be -not by you ??)

(i know that this simple question was surprisingly enough
never written in any your text books )...
(:-)
TIA
Y.Porat
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so if we find that its direction was diverted
you didn't get what Gauss discoverd, or at least confirmed
on a limited part of Eaaarth.

you believe in Galileo's "kinetic energy equals mopmentum
equals mass times velocity," two?


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Old June 23rd 11, 01:33 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro,sci.math
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Default Gravity is done by force messengers -not by curved space !!

there is no violation of conservation
of momentum of lightwaves, or particles,
with KE = mvv; momentum is mv. however,
waves of light are transfers of momentum
from atom to atom in the medium of space,
not the momentum of "zero-dimensional masslessness,"
which is just a contradiction of terminology.
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Old June 23rd 11, 03:20 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro,sci.math
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Default Gravity is done by force messengers -not by curved space !!

yes, the electron will be
in whatever elctromagnetic field is in the space;
ever seen a buuble-track photo
of electrons and positrons in Eaaarth's field?... oh,
that right; your teeny theory has no antimatter, alas.

nevermind. there's also no antimatter
in the Big Bang theory, and that's totally mainstream
(or, as I refer to it,
the Department of Einsteinmania, the Musical Dept.,
with an obnoxious drone from Phillip Glass,
or a program).
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Old June 23rd 11, 08:00 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro,sci.math
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Default Gravity is done by force messengers -not by curved space !!

On Jun 23, 4:20*am, 1treePetrifiedForestLane
wrote:
yes, the electron will be
in whatever elctromagnetic field is in the space;
ever seen a buuble-track photo
of electrons and positrons in Eaaarth's field?... *oh,
that right; your teeny theory has no antimatter, alas.

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you start with your demagogic tricks ?
not with me !!

did you ever saw from me that i say that there is not antimatter ??
so jsut be careful with attempts to obfuscate issues
while you deel with me
i am 73 years old !! (:-) (not a little child
2
ok smarty

lets take a tiny peace of dust
moving in completely empty space
ie far away from any mass

will curved space divert its
straight line path ??

TIA
Y.Porat
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----------------------

nevermind. *there's also no antimatter
in the Big Bang theory, and that's totally mainstream
(or, as I refer to it,
the Department of Einsteinmania, the Musical Dept.,
with an obnoxious drone from Phillip Glass,
or a program).


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Old June 24th 11, 02:11 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.particle,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro,sci.math
Y.Porat[_2_]
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Default Gravity is done by force messengers -not by curved space !!

On Jun 23, 9:00*am, "Y.Porat" wrote:
On Jun 23, 4:20*am, 1treePetrifiedForestLane
wrote: yes, the electron will be
in whatever elctromagnetic field is in the space;
ever seen a buuble-track photo
of electrons and positrons in Eaaarth's field?... *oh,
that right; your teeny theory has no antimatter, alas.


---------------------
you start with * your demagogic tricks *?
not with *me !!

did you ever saw from me that i say that there is not antimatter ??
so jsut be careful with attempts to obfuscate issues
while you deel with *me
i am 73 years old * !! (:-) (not a little child
2
ok smarty

lets take a tiny *peace of dust
moving in completely *empty space
ie far away from any mass

will curved space *divert its
straight line path ??

TIA
Y.Porat
----------------------
----------------------









nevermind. *there's also no antimatter
in the Big Bang theory, and that's totally mainstream
(or, as I refer to it,
the Department of Einsteinmania, the Musical Dept.,
with an obnoxious drone from Phillip Glass,
or a program).


---------------------
so ??

MR anonymous??

do you as well fade away while asked ''difficult questions ''
just tell us
how a momentum VECTOR
can change its direction just by itself !!!

TIA
Y.Porat
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