red wine and relativity

On 3 Aug, 03:18, Tom Roberts wrote:
Ben Rudiak-Gould wrote:
http://www.physics.utah.edu/~mohit/quarks.jpg

Great cartoon! An instant hit on my cube wall at Fermilab.

Tom Roberts

The greatest ever Fermilab hit (no red wine at all):

http://www.iit.edu/~bcps/database/se...culty_web_page
http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.ph...4dc146100e32c?
Tom Roberts: "If it is ultimately discovered that the photon has a
nonzero mass (i.e. light in vacuum does not travel at the invariant
speed of the Lorentz transform), SR would be unaffected but both
Maxwell's equations and QED would be refuted (or rather, their domains
of applicability would be reduced)."

Pentcho Valev

On 3 AUG, 08:32, Sam Wormley wrote:
Pentcho Valev wrote:
On 3 Aug, 03:18, Tom Roberts wrote:
Ben Rudiak-Gould wrote:
http://www.physics.utah.edu/~mohit/quarks.jpg
Great cartoon! An instant hit on my cube wall at Fermilab.

Tom Roberts

The greatest ever Fermilab hit (no red wine at all):

http://www.iit.edu/~bcps/database/se...culty_web_page
http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.ph...4dc146100e32c?
Tom Roberts: "If it is ultimately discovered that the photon has a
nonzero mass (i.e. light in vacuum does not travel at the invariant
speed of the Lorentz transform), SR would be unaffected but both
Maxwell's equations and QED would be refuted (or rather, their domains
of applicability would be reduced)."

Pentcho Valev

We are fortunate that Tom Roberts take some time to post on sci.physics.
Thank you, Tom

Master Tom Roberts wants you to THINK, Wormley, not just thank him. So
far he has only loved zombies who just thank him and sing "Divine
Einstein" but from now on he will love zombies who THINK as well. For
unknown reasons. So Master Tom Roberts has two suprises for you:

http://www.iit.edu/~robertst/Colloquium_Apr_27.ppt
Master Tom Roberts:
"A deeper look at some experiments that appear to refute SR
Group velocity c (in anomalously dispersive media)
Visibly superluminal astronomical sources
Michelson and Morley (!)
Dayton Miller's heroic repetition of the MMX
A surprise: the aether is not dead, it is just irrelevant"

Wormley Wormley Master Tom Roberts wants you to explain: (1) why the
Michelson-Morley experiment appears to refute special relativity; (2)
what "the aether is not dead, it is just irrelevant" mean.

Pentcho Valev

On Aug 2, 10:18 pm, Pentcho Valev wrote:
[...]

Be quiet.

On Aug 3, 1:18 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
On 3 AUG, 08:32, Sam Wormley wrote: Pentcho Valev wrote:
On 3 Aug, 03:18, Tom Roberts wrote:
Ben Rudiak-Gould wrote:
http://www.physics.utah.edu/~mohit/quarks.jpg
Great cartoon! An instant hit on my cube wall at Fermilab.

Tom Roberts

The greatest ever Fermilab hit (no red wine at all):

http://www.iit.edu/~bcps/database/se...owse_frm/threa...

Tom Roberts: "If it is ultimately discovered that the photon has a
nonzero mass (i.e. light in vacuum does not travel at the invariant
speed of the Lorentz transform), SR would be unaffected but both
Maxwell's equations and QED would be refuted (or rather, their domains
of applicability would be reduced)."

Pentcho Valev

We are fortunate that Tom Roberts take some time to post on sci.physics.
Thank you, Tom

Master Tom Roberts wants you to THINK, Wormley, not just thank him. So
far he has only loved zombies who just thank him and sing "Divine
Einstein" but from now on he will love zombies who THINK as well. For
unknown reasons. So Master Tom Roberts has two suprises for you:

http://www.iit.edu/~robertst/Colloquium_Apr_27.ppt
Master Tom Roberts:
"A deeper look at some experiments that appear to refute SR
Group velocity c (in anomalously dispersive media)
Visibly superluminal astronomical sources
Michelson and Morley (!)
Dayton Miller's heroic repetition of the MMX
A surprise: the aether is not dead, it is just irrelevant"

Wormley Wormley Master Tom Roberts wants you to explain: (1) why the
Michelson-Morley experiment appears to refute special relativity;

You might want to consider looking at the "deeper look" in Tom's talk
rather than just referring to a title slide or an abstract. Are you
lazy?

(2)
what "the aether is not dead, it is just irrelevant" mean.

Pentcho Valev

On 3 Aug, 15:52, PD wrote:
On Aug 3, 1:18 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:

On 3 AUG, 08:32, Sam Wormley wrote: Pentcho Valev wrote:
On 3 Aug, 03:18, Tom Roberts wrote:
Ben Rudiak-Gould wrote:
http://www.physics.utah.edu/~mohit/quarks.jpg
Great cartoon! An instant hit on my cube wall at Fermilab.

Tom Roberts

The greatest ever Fermilab hit (no red wine at all):

http://www.iit.edu/~bcps/database/se...Physics/Physic......

Tom Roberts: "If it is ultimately discovered that the photon has a
nonzero mass (i.e. light in vacuum does not travel at the invariant
speed of the Lorentz transform), SR would be unaffected but both
Maxwell's equations and QED would be refuted (or rather, their domains
of applicability would be reduced)."

Pentcho Valev

We are fortunate that Tom Roberts take some time to post on sci.physics.
Thank you, Tom

Master Tom Roberts wants you to THINK, Wormley, not just thank him. So
far he has only loved zombies who just thank him and sing "Divine
Einstein" but from now on he will love zombies who THINK as well. For
unknown reasons. So Master Tom Roberts has two suprises for you:

http://www.iit.edu/~robertst/Colloquium_Apr_27.ppt
Master Tom Roberts:
"A deeper look at some experiments that appear to refute SR
Group velocity c (in anomalously dispersive media)
Visibly superluminal astronomical sources
Michelson and Morley (!)
Dayton Miller's heroic repetition of the MMX
A surprise: the aether is not dead, it is just irrelevant"

Wormley Wormley Master Tom Roberts wants you to explain: (1) why the
Michelson-Morley experiment appears to refute special relativity;

You might want to consider looking at the "deeper look" in Tom's talk
rather than just referring to a title slide or an abstract. Are you
lazy?

I am. Did YOU have a deeper look? Did you find in Master Tom Roberts'
soul anything cleverer than this:

http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.ph...4dc146100e32c?
Tom Roberts: "If it is ultimately discovered that the photon has a
nonzero mass (i.e. light in vacuum does not travel at the invariant
speed of the Lorentz transform), SR would be unaffected but both
Maxwell's equations and QED would be refuted (or rather, their domains
of applicability would be reduced)."

Pentcho Valev

On Aug 3, 11:37 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
On 3 Aug, 15:52, PD wrote:





On Aug 3, 1:18 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:

On 3 AUG, 08:32, Sam Wormley wrote: Pentcho Valev wrote:
On 3 Aug, 03:18, Tom Roberts wrote:
Ben Rudiak-Gould wrote:
http://www.physics.utah.edu/~mohit/quarks.jpg
Great cartoon! An instant hit on my cube wall at Fermilab.

Tom Roberts

The greatest ever Fermilab hit (no red wine at all):

http://www.iit.edu/~bcps/database/se...Physics/Physic......

Tom Roberts: "If it is ultimately discovered that the photon has a
nonzero mass (i.e. light in vacuum does not travel at the invariant
speed of the Lorentz transform), SR would be unaffected but both
Maxwell's equations and QED would be refuted (or rather, their domains
of applicability would be reduced)."

Pentcho Valev

We are fortunate that Tom Roberts take some time to post on sci.physics.
Thank you, Tom

Master Tom Roberts wants you to THINK, Wormley, not just thank him. So
far he has only loved zombies who just thank him and sing "Divine
Einstein" but from now on he will love zombies who THINK as well. For
unknown reasons. So Master Tom Roberts has two suprises for you:

http://www.iit.edu/~robertst/Colloquium_Apr_27.ppt
Master Tom Roberts:
"A deeper look at some experiments that appear to refute SR
Group velocity c (in anomalously dispersive media)
Visibly superluminal astronomical sources
Michelson and Morley (!)
Dayton Miller's heroic repetition of the MMX
A surprise: the aether is not dead, it is just irrelevant"

Wormley Wormley Master Tom Roberts wants you to explain: (1) why the
Michelson-Morley experiment appears to refute special relativity;

You might want to consider looking at the "deeper look" in Tom's talk
rather than just referring to a title slide or an abstract. Are you
lazy?

I am. Did YOU have a deeper look? Did you find in Master Tom Roberts'
soul anything cleverer than this:

http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.ph...owse_frm/threa...
Tom Roberts: "If it is ultimately discovered that the photon has a
nonzero mass (i.e. light in vacuum does not travel at the invariant
speed of the Lorentz transform), SR would be unaffected but both
Maxwell's equations and QED would be refuted (or rather, their domains
of applicability would be reduced)."


I don't know how clever it is. It is right, though.