EINSTEIN ZOMBIES AND DIFFICULT MATHEMATICS

Einstein zombies know that, as light travels in a gravitational field,
its frequency, speed and wavelength obey initially the equation

f = c/L /1/

and finally the equation

f' = c'/L' /2/

Zombies also know (Pound and Rebka have proved) that f' and f are
related by

f' = f(1+V/c^2) /3/

where V is the gravitational potential. For almost a century zombies
have been trying to combine /1/, /2/ and /3/ and see how c' varies
with V (they know c' does vary with V). Some hypnotists in Einstein
criminal cult have suggested a solution:

http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae13.cfm
"So, it is absolutely true that the speed of light is _not_ constant
in a gravitational field [which, by the equivalence principle, applies
as well to accelerating (non-inertial) frames of reference]. If this
were not so, there would be no bending of light by the gravitational
field of stars....Indeed, this is exactly how Einstein did the
calculation in: 'On the Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of
Light,' Annalen der Physik, 35, 1911. which predated the full formal
development of general relativity by about four years. This paper is
widely available in English. You can find a copy beginning on page 99
of the Dover book 'The Principle of Relativity.' You will find in
section 3 of that paper, Einstein's derivation of the (variable) speed
of light in a gravitational potential, eqn (3). The result is,
c' = c0 ( 1 + V / c^2 )
where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the
speed of light c0 is measured."

http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-gcont.asp "The first confirmation of a
long range variation in the speed of light travelling in space came in
1964. Irwin Shapiro, it seems, was the first to make use of a
previously forgotten facet of general relativity theory -- that the
speed of light is reduced when it passes through a gravitational
field....Faced with this evidence, Einstein stated:"In the second
place our result shows that, according to the general theory of
relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in
vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the
special theory of relativity and to which we have already frequently
referred, cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of
light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light
varies with position."......Today we find that since the Special
Theory of Relativity unfortunately became part of the so called
mainstream science, it is considered a sacrilege to even suggest that
the speed of light be anything other than a constant. This is somewhat
surprising since even Einstein himself suggested in a paper "On the
Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der
Physik, 35, 1911, that the speed of light might vary with the
gravitational potential. Indeed, the variation of the speed of light
in a vacuum or space is explicitly shown in Einstein's calculation for
the angle at which light should bend upon the influence of gravity.
One can find his calculation in his paper. The result is c'=c(1+V/c^2)
where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the
measurement is taken. 1+V/c^2 is also known as the GRAVITATIONAL
REDSHIFT FACTOR."

However more powerful criminals in Einstein cult teach Einstein's 1911
equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) is wrong because it is dangerously equivalent
to the equation c'=c+v, where v is the relative speed of the light
source and the observer in the absence of a gravitational field. So
zombies continue to combine /1/, /2/ and /3/ and hope one day to find
a solution different from c'=c(1+V/c^2).

Pentcho Valev

On 2 Aug, 16:47, Sam Wormley wrote:
Pentcho Valev wrote:
Einstein's 1911
equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) is wrong because it is dangerously equivalent
to the equation c'=c+v, where v is the relative speed of the light
source and the observer in the absence of a gravitational field.

No c'=c(1+V/c^2) is wrong because that's not the way nature behaves.
End of story!

Wormley Wormley stories end in this way only in Einstein zombie world.
In other worlds, when someone claims an equation is wrong, he/she
immediately gives the correct equation. But you cannot even imagine
other worlds can you?

Pentcho Valev

On 3 Aug, 17:16, Sam Wormley wrote:
Pentcho Valev wrote:
On 2 Aug, 16:47, Sam Wormley wrote:
No c'=c(1+V/c^2) is wrong because that's not the way nature behaves.
End of story!

Wormley Wormley stories end in this way only in Einstein zombie world.
In other worlds, when someone claims an equation is wrong, he/she
immediately gives the correct equation. But you cannot even imagine
other worlds can you?

Pentcho Valev

Pentcho -- You have to realize that Einstein rejected this c'=c(1+V/c^2)
foolishness and moved on.

Whoever told you that Wormley Wormley. Einstein always claimed the
speed of light varies with the gravitational potential, and all your
masters agree. True, half of your masters claim the speed of light
varies with the gravitational potential in accordance with Einstein's
1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2), the other half claim the equation is
wrong. Accordingly, half of the zombies repeat the first claim, the
other half repeat the second claim. No contradiction in Einstein
zombie world. The problem is: If the speed of light varies with the
gravitational potential but not in accordance with Einstein's 1911
equation c'=c(1+V/c^2), then in accordance with what equation does the
speed of light vary with the gravitational potential? In other words
Wormley Wormley, just give the function c'=f(V).

Pentcho Valev

On Aug 3, 12:57 pm, Pentcho Valev wrote:
On 3 Aug, 17:16, Sam Wormley wrote:

Pentcho Valev wrote:
On 2 Aug, 16:47, Sam Wormley wrote:
No c'=c(1+V/c^2) is wrong because that's not the way nature behaves.
End of story!

Wormley Wormley stories end in this way only in Einstein zombie world.
In other worlds, when someone claims an equation is wrong, he/she
immediately gives the correct equation. But you cannot even imagine
other worlds can you?

Pentcho Valev

Pentcho -- You have to realize that Einstein rejected this c'=c(1+V/c^2)
foolishness and moved on.

Whoever told you that Wormley Wormley. Einstein always claimed the
speed of light varies with the gravitational potential, and all your
masters agree. True, half of your masters claim the speed of light
varies with the gravitational potential in accordance with Einstein's
1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2),

No, not half. Only YOU say that. Did you ever notice that the "1911"
equation is from..... 1911. Time waits for no man, time "keeps on
slippin', slippin', slippin ', into the future." and scientists fix
their mistakes. If Einstein can move on, why can't you?

the other half claim the equation is
wrong. Accordingly, half of the zombies repeat the first claim, the
other half repeat the second claim. No contradiction in Einstein
zombie world. The problem is: If the speed of light varies with the
gravitational potential but not in accordance with Einstein's 1911
equation c'=c(1+V/c^2), then in accordance with what equation does the
speed of light vary with the gravitational potential? In other words
Wormley Wormley, just give the function c'=f(V).

Have you ever posted once where you didn't harp on the fact that the
1911 equation was wrong?



Pentcho Valev

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Pentcho Valev a écrit :
Einstein zombies know that, as light travels in a gravitational field,
its frequency, speed and wavelength obey initially the equation


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