"President Must Answer to Downing Street Memo"

JazzMan wrote:

Scott Lowther wrote:


wrote:



http://tinyurl.com/9ts2x

"America's credibility, its conscience and soul, stand at a crossroad.




Indeed. If Bush gives in to the bleating retards who want the US to
abandon the war, then not only will he doom his presidency, but also the
future of America.

"Giving aid and comfort to the enemy" used to be a crime.



But making the world a more dangerous place, especially
for US interests, isn't a crime? Perhaps it should be...


Then the Left would have rather a lot to answer for, wouldn't they.

Herb Schaltegger wrote:


Don't bother to reply, Lowther

Perfect summation of the political Left. "La-la-la-la I can't hear you
la-la-la..."

Rand Simberg wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:35:12 -0500, in a place far, far away, Herb
Schaltegger made the
phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:



"Giving aid and comfort to the enemy" used to be a crime.


I regret that fooling with my killfile let me see a post by Lowther,
but . . .

Going to war under knowingly false pretenses,



Why does this bizarre delusion persist



Simple: politics. The United States in a state of collapse is what the
Left likes best; so if they can't actually have that collpase, they'll
pretend that it's there in the hopes that they can depress everyone.

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:35:12 -0500, in a place far, far away, Herb
Schaltegger made the
phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

"Giving aid and comfort to the enemy" used to be a crime.

I regret that fooling with my killfile let me see a post by Lowther,
but . . .

Going to war under knowingly false pretenses,

Why does this bizarre delusion persist, in the wake of all of the
investigations that show otherwise?

On 18 Jun 2005 09:36:00 -0700, in a place far, far away,
" made the phosphor on my
monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

Rand Simberg wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:35:12 -0500, in a place far, far away, Herb
Schaltegger made the
phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

Going to war under knowingly false pretenses,

Why does this bizarre delusion persist, in the wake of all of the
investigations that show otherwise?

In your mind only, it apparently exists because you won't take the time
to listen to the 6.5 minute audio available he

http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=6515

Among other things, McGovern states that, "Ye shall know the truth, and
the truth shall make you free," is chiseled into the stone of CIA
Headquarters.

McGovern is an anti-semitic nutcase, who thinks that the purpose of
the war was to allow Israel to take over the Middle East. I can see
why you like him.

Scott Lowther wrote:


Indeed. If Bush gives in to the bleating retards who want the US to
abandon the war, then not only will he doom his presidency, but also
the future of America.

"Giving aid and comfort to the enemy" used to be a crime.



It is...in wartime...we haven't legally declared war on anyone yet; if
we had, then all those poor shmucks down at Guantanamo Bay would be POWs
and subject to their rights under the Geneva Conventions...and we
wouldn't want that, would we?

Pat

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:53:36 -0500, in a place far, far away, OM
om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org made
the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 19:09:11 GMT, h (Rand
Simberg) wrote:

Going to war under knowingly false pretenses,

Why does this bizarre delusion persist, in the wake of all of the
investigations that show otherwise?

...The delusion comes from one point of order and one point alone: the
WMDs were *not* found.

He used the word "knowingly." Is it his (or your) claim that the
administration *knew* that the WMD wouldn't be found? How stupid
would that have been?

On 18 Jun 2005 10:10:43 -0700, in a place far, far away,
" made the phosphor on my
monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

Among other things, McGovern states that, "Ye shall know the truth, and
the truth shall make you free," is chiseled into the stone of CIA
Headquarters.

McGovern is an anti-semitic nutcase, who thinks that the purpose of
the war was to allow Israel to take over the Middle East. I can see
why you like him.

We're all Americans, Rand, whether you like it or not.

I must have missed the post where I said otherwise. Though in fact,
there are many in this newsgroup, some of them highly respected, who
aren't Americans. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I'll not waste
time defending my archived posts against your baseless insinuation.

I have many more Jewish friends than Jewish enemies. Furthermore, I've
seen nothing to indicate that your labeling of McGovern is in any way
correct.

If you want logic, I suggest you stick to it. Provide a reference.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...601570_pf.html

"The session took an awkward turn when witness Ray McGovern, a former
intelligence analyst, declared that the United States went to war in
Iraq for oil, Israel and military bases craved by administration
'neocons' so 'the United States and Israel could dominate that part of
the world.' He said that Israel should not be considered an ally and
that Bush was doing the bidding of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel
Sharon.

'Israel is not allowed to be brought up in polite conversation,'
McGovern said. 'The last time I did this, the previous director of
Central Intelligence called me anti-Semitic.' "

Gee, imagine that...

h (Rand Simberg) wrote:

Pat Flannery made
Scott Lowther wrote:

Indeed. If Bush gives in to the bleating retards who want the US to
abandon the war, then not only will he doom his presidency, but also
the future of America.

"Giving aid and comfort to the enemy" used to be a crime.

It is...in wartime...we haven't legally declared war on anyone yet; if
we had, then all those poor shmucks down at Guantanamo Bay would be POWs
and subject to their rights under the Geneva Conventions.

No, they wouldn't. They're unlawful combatants. And they are being
treated according to Geneva despite that.

They are not being hanged as would have been customary in previous conflicts.

Scott Lowther wrote:

Perfect summation of the political Left. "La-la-la-la I can't hear you
la-la-la..."

In terms of Challenger, that's ironic -- to say the least. Your last
three posts to this thread appear to consign everyone who differs with
you to "the Left."

It's a pity that you've never assigned the emphasis of a capital 'L' to
Challenger's left booster. Like so many others here, you've always
deemed only the right one worthy of carrying the Reagan/Bush torch.

Challenger's Ghost