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Neil Gerace wrote:
I just have a pet hate about the use of the word 'bandwidth' in this sense. But then, I studied Fourier transforms at uni, so I know what the difference is between frequency and speed. (Doubtless most people here do too.) Of course. This is a technical group. But as used in this thread, it is a traditional shorthand with a long history. I went hunting in the RFCs for a response to Mary's contention that trimming was never about bandwidth, and it is used in this context quite frequently. As for what trimming is about, all the references I found--including the nanae-FAQ--cite bandwidth as the reason for trimming quotes. But what I searched for were references to trimming and bandwidth, so all it means is I found what I was looking for, which may or may not be the answer. Me, I trim my quotes pretty carefully, and I get annoyed by people who don't. Other than that, it's hard for me to remember what this is all about because the post Mary responded to is nearly a month old, and I'm an old lady, with a spotty memory that doesn't go back that far. rl |
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"Mary Pegg" wrote in message ... [Just going through an old thread I never finished reading] Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote: but I do have a question: does anyone really pay premium prices for bandwidth anymore? If so, then the Yes. People on satellite phones, for instance. Not so common, but they exist. There's still people on pay-as-you-go by-the-minute dial-up. And there's people on Antarctic stations and research ships who have a personal bandwidth allowance. In England, at least a few years ago, you couldn't even get a flat-rate dial-up. (According to my cousin, at least, who ran a Chaplaincy office.) |
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On 2005-06-08, Ami Silberman wrote:
Yes. People on satellite phones, for instance. Not so common, but they exist. There's still people on pay-as-you-go by-the-minute dial-up. And there's people on Antarctic stations and research ships who have a personal bandwidth allowance. In England, at least a few years ago, you couldn't even get a flat-rate dial-up. (According to my cousin, at least, who ran a Chaplaincy office.) Per-minute connections were common until ~2000. The first flat-rate dialup I remember (ie, pay £X per month, no call charges) turned up about 2001; before that, the big development was Freeserve (and its ilk) in 1999 which offered no monthly charge but a per-minute local call rate. I misremember exactly when this development was, as I was at university at the time. (The USian practice of effectively free local-rate calls never took off here) -- -Andrew Gray |
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Andrew Gray writes:
Lots of people in hotels (less so now, with wide provision of access points, but until the last year or so very common) need to use cellphones for external net access; these are often a) running expensive per-minute rates and b) act as horribly slow modems. Basically, back to 1993 as far as the connection goes. Why? I don't know of any local hotel where you can't find an open WiFi in under 60 sec! -- Paul Repacholi 1 Crescent Rd., +61 (08) 9257-1001 Kalamunda. West Australia 6076 comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked. EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be. |
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Pat Flannery wrote:
[too much, perhaps, but that's our Pat] The Irish version is considered by many to be the single most difficult of the world's musical instruments to play well; so difficult in fact that no one has ever accomplished this feat: http://www.taramusic.com/features/uilleann.htm "Paddy Moloney" |
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
... The Irish version is considered by many to be the single most difficult of the world's musical instruments to play well; so difficult in fact that no one has ever accomplished this feat: http://www.taramusic.com/features/uilleann.htm If someone does manage to play it well, how will anyone know? |
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Neil Gerace wrote: If someone does manage to play it well, how will anyone know? People won't scream and run as soon as the first few notes are played. They tend to do that now. :-) Actually it can be played well, but it's a rare instrument to seen being played, and apparently fiendishly difficult to master. It's basically a bagpipe, but instead of blowing into the bag to inflate it, you pump a bellows under your arm. Trying to do that at the same time you are fingering the holes in the pipes is supposed to be like trying to pat your head and rub your stomach simultaneously. The number of really competent players is said number a few dozen worldwide. Pat |
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 02:03:50 +0800, "Neil Gerace" wrote:
"Pat Flannery" wrote in message ... The Irish version is considered by many to be the single most difficult of the world's musical instruments to play well; so difficult in fact that no one has ever accomplished this feat: http://www.taramusic.com/features/uilleann.htm If someone does manage to play it well, how will anyone know? It would help if he could hear the previews on Amazon that Pat's link leads us to. But on the various sites, clicking on the song titles just downloads something called "hurl.exe". That doesn't sound good. Dale It doesn't run, either |
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 03:32:54 -0700, I wrote:
It would help if he could hear... Errr..."we"... Dale Found a page with audio clips. Not that unpleasant- sorta like a flock of gay geese- http://www.pipersgathering.org/Audio...io%20Clips.htm |
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Dale wrote: Found a page with audio clips. Not that unpleasant- sorta like a flock of gay geese- http://www.pipersgathering.org/Audio...io%20Clips.htm It does sound distinctly different from the Scottish pipes, doesn't it? Pat |
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