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Old August 14th 03, 02:14 AM
Hunter
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"Raymond Breakspear" wrote in message ...

"LJ93612" wrote:
My point is that the
Neo-Tech literature should be modified to a more perfect and accurate
state and I am willing to spend time and effort to prove my point.


** You are wasting you time here.


No doubt: he wants to inject mystical astrology into mystic-busting
Neo-Tech.


Neo-tech folks follow Wallace's party line with the same blindness
that others follow the various religious dogma.


A Neo-Tech person follows his or her own consciousness -- not anyone
else's consciousness.


Wallace's writings are no more than a money-making (for him) marketing
ploy.


The Neo-Tech writings have genuinely benefited hundreds of thousands
of people worldwide. See the comments at
http://www.neo-tech.com/feedback/index.php and the testimonials at
http://www.neo-tech.com/neotech/letters


Within N.T. are sound sound concepts - unfortunately Wallace takes
thousands and thousands of words to say something which could be written on
a couple of pages of A4 paper.


This is context dropping. You can condense Neo-Tech to four pages only
after studying it for years. People who have never heard of Neo-Tech
require the full matrix to grasp these unorthodox concepts and
theories.


He is himelf a neo-cheater.


He is a lifelong value producer, a PhD chemist, former Dupont research
scientist, author of a best-selling poker manual, founder of Neo-Tech
that sold 1.2 million copies and discoverer of the Zon constant (k).
This solves the Grand Unification Theory by placing mystic-free
consciousness as the controlling force of nature. This simple yet
elegant solution integrates Einstein's macro physics with Plank's
quantum mechanics to show how all of existence works from the smallest
elements of 10^-34 magnitude to the largest elements of 10^100^10
magnitude. Hopefully Dr. Wallace will win the Nobel Prize in Physics
for this discovery, although it will take a few decades for the
scientific community to fully grasp and assimilate this sweeping
breakthrough.


His devoted disciples take his every word as gospel and reject
everything else out of hand unless proof is provided.


The 114 Neo-Tech Advantages are fully backed by the 146 concepts,
tables and diagrams in the 1976 Neo-Tech Reference Encyclopedia. Those
146 concepts are firmly and clearly anchored in over 200 scholarly
books that are reviewed and critiqued in the Reference Encyclopedia.
And many of those books contain honest, sound and strikingly original
breakthroughs by authors including Kenneth Cooper, Robert Atkins,
Betty Freidan, Alex Comfort, Nathaniel Branden, Ayn Rand, Ludwig von
Mises, Ellen Peck, George H. Smith and more. In other words, Neo-Tech
is firmly anchored in reality and its roots can be traced by anyone.
The Neo-Tech concepts are valid and they work.


If proof is not provided, they then feel justified in saying that the
onus is on (in this instance) you to prove your assertions, conveniently
forgetting you are under no obligation to do any such thing. If the boot was
on the other foot they'd be saying the onus on is on youto prove them wrong.


The onus of proof concept comes from logic, which predates Neo-Tech by
many centuries. It says he who asserts a thing has the burden to prove
it. This is a healthy check that prevents people from making arbitrary
claims that cannot be backed up by sound reasoning and/or definitive
proof.


While atrology is not everything some folks may make it out to be, it
is certainly a valid, if not a precise, science.


Astrology has zero causal connections between the position of
celestial bodies and the course of events in people's lives. Astronomy
is a valid science that demonstrates clear causal connections between
cosmic events; astrology is a mystical hoax that cannot be sustained
by reason or the scientific method. People have debunked astrology
before and after the discovery of Neo-Tech including Carl Sagan
(http://www.carlsagan.com) and Michael Shermer
(http://www.skeptic.com).


And if you can define anything about me, astrologically from the
above - let me know. Just don't suggest I'm one of those damn Aquarians,
please!!!


Since you disregard causality, reject the onus of proof principle,
consider Neo-Tech as merely a ploy and you accept astrology, then I
can perform ghostology on you! lol There is an invisible ghost
hovering above your shoulder who says you will win the lottery soon
but first you have to sell all your assets and give me the proceeds…

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Old August 18th 03, 11:12 AM
ordosclan
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(Hunter) wrote in message . com...

No doubt: he wants to inject mystical astrology into mystic-busting
Neo-Tech.


Neo-tech folks follow Wallace's party line with the same blindness
that others follow the various religious dogma.


A Neo-Tech person follows his or her own consciousness -- not anyone
else's consciousness.


I forgot to post this previously but there were some studys on the
possible effect of planetary energys or collections of particles
thorough space (or whatever mumbo jumbo you want to use) from planets
effecting posterior structures of the brain. A study like this is
more objective than any of the two sides in this current discussion.
If these planetary conjunctions can effect the reptilian and limbic
systems of the brain (and perhaps the brain stem) then they could
indeed act as a stimuli for abberant behavior.

Uh, ask any cab driver or cop. Lots of weird stuff goes on with full
moons. You call it anecdotal? Isnt that what Empirical evidence is?
Did we not study Godel?

Point is, the forebrain (the god brain) can bleed overstimulation from
the posterior areas (clicking the amygdala).... Just one idea on that
study. Oh, I mentioned Stimulis... With the obvious connections of
Physics and not so obvious (or well hidden) influences of Empiricism
to Neo-drek I bring attention to that nice gem of tripe that was once
known as Behaviorism.

Cause = Effect
Stimulist = Response

If every cause has an effect. Does every stimulis have a response?
If every action has an equal and opposite reaction, is stimulis an
action and response a reaction?

Within N.T. are sound sound concepts - unfortunately Wallace takes
thousands and thousands of words to say something which could be written on
a couple of pages of A4 paper.


This is context dropping. You can condense Neo-Tech to four pages only
after studying it for years. People who have never heard of Neo-Tech
require the full matrix to grasp these unorthodox concepts and
theories.


This is pretty much covered in the primary and secondary philisophical
references mentioned in the neo-dreck literature. This "few pages of
A4" paper could have consisted of a recommented reading list. If the
individual exposed to Neo-dreck never had the impetious to go out on
their own and obtain these references, read them and integrate them on
their own AFTER reading neo-dreck, then I don think they were ready
for the responsibility to be a superzon in the first place. Now, if
they NEEDED to be primed by neo-tech FIRST, for the integrations to
occur.... well...

As far as context dropping. This is an interesting new terminology.
Doesnt sound like something that comes from Linguistic theorys.
Somehow the intervetning connection between elements in a
thought/speech stream dissapear and never to return..... oh where did
they go? Taking something OUT of context is a responsive defense
mechanism. Putting it back into context is a counter-intuititive
tactic.

However, CHANGING context is an action. "Mysticism is nothing" Wow,
so profound. This is what most mystical systems have been saying
since their inception. There are so many people in this world living
their lives in persuit of no objects. However, this is an existential
context. Not a linguistic distinction. I'm not going any farther
with this. I should save this for an offline project.

He is himelf a neo-cheater.


He is a lifelong value producer, a PhD chemist, former Dupont research
scientist, author of a best-selling poker manual, founder of Neo-Tech
that sold 1.2 million copies and discoverer of the Zon constant (k).
This solves the Grand Unification Theory by placing mystic-free
consciousness as the controlling force of nature. This simple yet


What dimention does consciousness operate in? Is wallace orienting
himself and his idea of space/time in a 1, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, or 6th
dimention?

elegant solution integrates Einstein's macro physics with Plank's
quantum mechanics to show how all of existence works from the smallest


And I can debunk planks theorm. No need really. Its been done many a
time in Trancendental physics. The theorm is true in some context.
Its a falsehood in another (postpositionally for example). Its JUST a
ratio (like a system of measurement). There are other ratios. The
ratios in western classical music are dissimilar to ones say in 8th
century china.

The ratio's used by greeks, babelonians, egyptians, vedics, chinese,
eskimos, ect are dissimilar (as is the values they produced). There
are 3,000+ years of vedic science missing from the minds of western
scientists. And there is a good reason for it. It starts with
language. Then it starts with the numbers 0 and 1.

Is consciousness empirically verifiable? Which part of the '4 forces'
of science do the mind and consciousness exist in? Isnt time just
symbolic of an experience of a processing sequence of 3+ dimentions of
space aligned linearly? If so, or in that area of thinking. Where is
this "space" represented by the number 0 and letter o and the decimal
..?

Julian jaynes brought up the ancient point that we cant think about
absolutes unless we spacialize them. How do we then reconcile the
contradictions of absolutes and abstractions in general such as space
and time; mind and body?

What aspects of language are abstract and which are more concrete?
And how does this plug into the thought process behind the thinking in
neodreck theorys. I mean, if one is mixing absolute concepts and
abstractions like this. Surely there must be a unifying theory behind
that. One that the greeks, romans, pythagorans, and gnostics (just to
name a few) were never able to achieve with they're bodys or words
alone. Those ancients were using GRAMMAR models not equations. The
romans didnt even HAVE vedic numerals.

TAP TAP TAP is this thing on?!!


elements of 10^-34 magnitude to the largest elements of 10^100^10
magnitude. Hopefully Dr. Wallace will win the Nobel Prize in Physics
for this discovery, although it will take a few decades for the
scientific community to fully grasp and assimilate this sweeping
breakthrough.


aturally.... (smirk)

They said the same thing about Dr. Flanagan.


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Old October 10th 03, 05:44 PM
Jason
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you spout so much drivel yourself - why don't you prove yourself. your
ramblings amount ot about as much proof as my paddington bear book does
about the existence of bears.




"Hunter" wrote in message
om...
"Raymond Breakspear" wrote in message

...

"LJ93612" wrote:
My point is that the
Neo-Tech literature should be modified to a more perfect and accurate
state and I am willing to spend time and effort to prove my point.


** You are wasting you time here.


No doubt: he wants to inject mystical astrology into mystic-busting
Neo-Tech.


Neo-tech folks follow Wallace's party line with the same blindness
that others follow the various religious dogma.


A Neo-Tech person follows his or her own consciousness -- not anyone
else's consciousness.


Wallace's writings are no more than a money-making (for him)

marketing
ploy.


The Neo-Tech writings have genuinely benefited hundreds of thousands
of people worldwide. See the comments at
http://www.neo-tech.com/feedback/index.php and the testimonials at
http://www.neo-tech.com/neotech/letters


Within N.T. are sound sound concepts - unfortunately Wallace takes
thousands and thousands of words to say something which could be written

on
a couple of pages of A4 paper.


This is context dropping. You can condense Neo-Tech to four pages only
after studying it for years. People who have never heard of Neo-Tech
require the full matrix to grasp these unorthodox concepts and
theories.


He is himelf a neo-cheater.


He is a lifelong value producer, a PhD chemist, former Dupont research
scientist, author of a best-selling poker manual, founder of Neo-Tech
that sold 1.2 million copies and discoverer of the Zon constant (k).
This solves the Grand Unification Theory by placing mystic-free
consciousness as the controlling force of nature. This simple yet
elegant solution integrates Einstein's macro physics with Plank's
quantum mechanics to show how all of existence works from the smallest
elements of 10^-34 magnitude to the largest elements of 10^100^10
magnitude. Hopefully Dr. Wallace will win the Nobel Prize in Physics
for this discovery, although it will take a few decades for the
scientific community to fully grasp and assimilate this sweeping
breakthrough.


His devoted disciples take his every word as gospel and reject
everything else out of hand unless proof is provided.


The 114 Neo-Tech Advantages are fully backed by the 146 concepts,
tables and diagrams in the 1976 Neo-Tech Reference Encyclopedia. Those
146 concepts are firmly and clearly anchored in over 200 scholarly
books that are reviewed and critiqued in the Reference Encyclopedia.
And many of those books contain honest, sound and strikingly original
breakthroughs by authors including Kenneth Cooper, Robert Atkins,
Betty Freidan, Alex Comfort, Nathaniel Branden, Ayn Rand, Ludwig von
Mises, Ellen Peck, George H. Smith and more. In other words, Neo-Tech
is firmly anchored in reality and its roots can be traced by anyone.
The Neo-Tech concepts are valid and they work.


If proof is not provided, they then feel justified in saying that

the
onus is on (in this instance) you to prove your assertions, conveniently
forgetting you are under no obligation to do any such thing. If the boot

was
on the other foot they'd be saying the onus on is on youto prove them

wrong.

The onus of proof concept comes from logic, which predates Neo-Tech by
many centuries. It says he who asserts a thing has the burden to prove
it. This is a healthy check that prevents people from making arbitrary
claims that cannot be backed up by sound reasoning and/or definitive
proof.


While atrology is not everything some folks may make it out to be,

it
is certainly a valid, if not a precise, science.


Astrology has zero causal connections between the position of
celestial bodies and the course of events in people's lives. Astronomy
is a valid science that demonstrates clear causal connections between
cosmic events; astrology is a mystical hoax that cannot be sustained
by reason or the scientific method. People have debunked astrology
before and after the discovery of Neo-Tech including Carl Sagan
(http://www.carlsagan.com) and Michael Shermer
(http://www.skeptic.com).


And if you can define anything about me, astrologically from the
above - let me know. Just don't suggest I'm one of those damn Aquarians,
please!!!


Since you disregard causality, reject the onus of proof principle,
consider Neo-Tech as merely a ploy and you accept astrology, then I
can perform ghostology on you! lol There is an invisible ghost
hovering above your shoulder who says you will win the lottery soon
but first you have to sell all your assets and give me the proceeds.



  #4  
Old October 10th 03, 05:44 PM
Jason
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you spout so much drivel yourself - why don't you prove yourself. your
ramblings amount ot about as much proof as my paddington bear book does
about the existence of bears.




"Hunter" wrote in message
om...
"Raymond Breakspear" wrote in message

...

"LJ93612" wrote:
My point is that the
Neo-Tech literature should be modified to a more perfect and accurate
state and I am willing to spend time and effort to prove my point.


** You are wasting you time here.


No doubt: he wants to inject mystical astrology into mystic-busting
Neo-Tech.


Neo-tech folks follow Wallace's party line with the same blindness
that others follow the various religious dogma.


A Neo-Tech person follows his or her own consciousness -- not anyone
else's consciousness.


Wallace's writings are no more than a money-making (for him)

marketing
ploy.


The Neo-Tech writings have genuinely benefited hundreds of thousands
of people worldwide. See the comments at
http://www.neo-tech.com/feedback/index.php and the testimonials at
http://www.neo-tech.com/neotech/letters


Within N.T. are sound sound concepts - unfortunately Wallace takes
thousands and thousands of words to say something which could be written

on
a couple of pages of A4 paper.


This is context dropping. You can condense Neo-Tech to four pages only
after studying it for years. People who have never heard of Neo-Tech
require the full matrix to grasp these unorthodox concepts and
theories.


He is himelf a neo-cheater.


He is a lifelong value producer, a PhD chemist, former Dupont research
scientist, author of a best-selling poker manual, founder of Neo-Tech
that sold 1.2 million copies and discoverer of the Zon constant (k).
This solves the Grand Unification Theory by placing mystic-free
consciousness as the controlling force of nature. This simple yet
elegant solution integrates Einstein's macro physics with Plank's
quantum mechanics to show how all of existence works from the smallest
elements of 10^-34 magnitude to the largest elements of 10^100^10
magnitude. Hopefully Dr. Wallace will win the Nobel Prize in Physics
for this discovery, although it will take a few decades for the
scientific community to fully grasp and assimilate this sweeping
breakthrough.


His devoted disciples take his every word as gospel and reject
everything else out of hand unless proof is provided.


The 114 Neo-Tech Advantages are fully backed by the 146 concepts,
tables and diagrams in the 1976 Neo-Tech Reference Encyclopedia. Those
146 concepts are firmly and clearly anchored in over 200 scholarly
books that are reviewed and critiqued in the Reference Encyclopedia.
And many of those books contain honest, sound and strikingly original
breakthroughs by authors including Kenneth Cooper, Robert Atkins,
Betty Freidan, Alex Comfort, Nathaniel Branden, Ayn Rand, Ludwig von
Mises, Ellen Peck, George H. Smith and more. In other words, Neo-Tech
is firmly anchored in reality and its roots can be traced by anyone.
The Neo-Tech concepts are valid and they work.


If proof is not provided, they then feel justified in saying that

the
onus is on (in this instance) you to prove your assertions, conveniently
forgetting you are under no obligation to do any such thing. If the boot

was
on the other foot they'd be saying the onus on is on youto prove them

wrong.

The onus of proof concept comes from logic, which predates Neo-Tech by
many centuries. It says he who asserts a thing has the burden to prove
it. This is a healthy check that prevents people from making arbitrary
claims that cannot be backed up by sound reasoning and/or definitive
proof.


While atrology is not everything some folks may make it out to be,

it
is certainly a valid, if not a precise, science.


Astrology has zero causal connections between the position of
celestial bodies and the course of events in people's lives. Astronomy
is a valid science that demonstrates clear causal connections between
cosmic events; astrology is a mystical hoax that cannot be sustained
by reason or the scientific method. People have debunked astrology
before and after the discovery of Neo-Tech including Carl Sagan
(http://www.carlsagan.com) and Michael Shermer
(http://www.skeptic.com).


And if you can define anything about me, astrologically from the
above - let me know. Just don't suggest I'm one of those damn Aquarians,
please!!!


Since you disregard causality, reject the onus of proof principle,
consider Neo-Tech as merely a ploy and you accept astrology, then I
can perform ghostology on you! lol There is an invisible ghost
hovering above your shoulder who says you will win the lottery soon
but first you have to sell all your assets and give me the proceeds.



 




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