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NASA, SpaceX Set First Dragon Launch To ISS
On Dec 28, 1:59*pm, Matt Wiser wrote:
On Dec 28, 3:50*am, bob haller wrote: congress doesnt listen to anyone but the wealthy who pay for their re elections..... You really are an ignorant sod, aren't you? *Please explain just how "the wealthy" do this, given campaign finance limits. the congressmen get groups to do their advertising for them. so as to avoid campagn funding law limits, they do this by promising stuff to these groups..... basically their votes are bought you scratch my back i will scratch yours. this is a major cause of our countries troubles today. it causes gridlock, because no one can compromise, even when its in everyones best interest. now here again is the direct paste from the republican debate. please explain in detail how any of these presidential candidates are supportive of MSF at all? ================================================== =================== The Republican presidential field sent a clear message to NASA workers in America: They don’t see a federal role in funding human space flight, [video clip at 6:50 to 9:28]. Debate moderator John King of CNN asked the other six candidates in attendance whether they would continue federal funding for human space flight. Not a single candidate - Texas Rep. Ron Paul, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum and former Godfather’s Pizza CEO Herman Cain — raised their hand. The unanimous verdict came during a New Hampshire presidential debate tonight and following a scathing assessment of NASA management by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga. GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich says "NASA has become an absolute case study in why bureaucracy cannot innovate,” he said. “What we have is bureaucracy after bureaucracy, failure after failure.” ---------------------------------------------------------------------------**------------------------ One other thing, boobert: there's a saying among space buffs (which clearly, you're not): "The Meek can have the Earth. The Rest of us are going to the Stars." My bags are packed. So where are you, hmm? Since you're obviously a Luddite, troll, and a Chicken Little, it's obvious.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - your not going anywhere unless your depending on russia, and they arent having a good run right now.... and anything nasa will cost you more than you could earn in several lifetimes just for launch cost per pound |
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NASA, SpaceX Set First Dragon Launch To ISS
On Dec 28, 2:31*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote: congress doesnt listen to anyone but the wealthy who pay for their re elections..... You really are an ignorant sod, aren't you? *Please explain just how "the wealthy" do this, given campaign finance limits. the congressmen get groups to do their advertising for them. so as to avoid campagn funding law limits, they do this by promising stuff to these groups..... basically their votes are bought you scratch my back i will scratch yours. this is a major cause of our countries troubles today. Yes, people with your sort of delusions are indeed a major cause of our country's troubles today. You understand that what you describe above is illegal and that people would go to prison if they got caught doing that, right? it causes gridlock, because no one can compromise, even when its in everyones best interest. now here again is the direct paste from the republican debate. please explain in detail how any of these presidential candidates are supportive of MSF at all? ================================================= ==================== The Republican presidential field sent a clear message to NASA workers in America: They don’t see a federal role in funding human space flight, [video clip at 6:50 to 9:28]. Debate moderator John King of CNN asked the other six candidates in attendance whether they would continue federal funding for human space flight. Not a single candidate - Texas Rep. Ron Paul, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum and former Godfather’s Pizza CEO Herman Cain — raised their hand. The unanimous verdict came during a New Hampshire presidential debate tonight and following a scathing assessment of NASA management by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga. GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich says "NASA has become an absolute case study in why bureaucracy cannot innovate,” he said. “What we have is bureaucracy after bureaucracy, failure after failure.” --------------------------------------------------------------------------*------------------------- And if they'd asked the question the other way, nobody would have raised their hands, either. *Your understanding of politicians and human nature is equal to your understanding of current events and physics; i.e., damned near non-existent. -- "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar *territory." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - most congressional polotical campaigns are all about raising boatloads of money. I have volunteered as campaign worker. so whats your experience with campaigns for congress? |
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NASA, SpaceX Set First Dragon Launch To ISS
On Dec 28, 2:45*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote: and anything nasa will cost you more than you could earn in several lifetimes just for launch cost per pound Bobbert, you innumerate ****! The average American earns $1.6 million during their lifetime. Presumably "several lifetimes" equates to more than two. *So your claim is that launch costs per pound prohibit launching a human being for $5 million or so. Launch costs are around $10k/pound. *Let's use $15k/pound, just to be generous to you. *If someone weighs less than 330 pounds or so, your statement is obviously false. Now assume a higher lifetime income (everyone isn't you, after all; someone with a professional degree will earn $4.4 million in their lifetime) and $10k/pound for launch costs. *Your statement is even more false. The only conclusion is that you are an innumerate buffoon who couldn't figure his way out of a wet paper bag. yeah delusional fred Russia Hikes Price of Rocket Rides for U.S. Astronauts to $63 Million Published March 14, 2011 | FoxNews.com NASA, already committed to paying Russia millions of dollars to hitch rides into space, had some expensive news to announce Monday: Russia plan to start charging even more. With the United States phasing out the shuttle program, the new way for U.S. astronauts to get to the International Space Station will be to catch a ride with the Russians, and NASA's existing contract for that transport priced each rocket ride at just under $56 million. Now, Russia is hiking the price for each rocket ride to nearly $63 million in 2014. The contract extension with the Russian Space Agency totals $753 million, which covers trips for a dozen astronauts from 2014 through 2016. Why such a price hike? NASA officials chalk it up to inflation. NASA chief Charles Bolden says it's critical for U.S. companies to take over this transportation job. The space shuttles used to do that job are being retired this summer Read mo http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...#ixzz1hrVKriJq |
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i beleve private people flying on soyuz were paying 20 million per
ride. in any case it multiple times anyones lifetime take home pay here |
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On Dec 28, 3:35*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote: i beleve private people flying on soyuz were paying 20 million per ride. Soyuz isn't NASA and isn't charging 'pound to orbit' prices. in any case it multiple times anyones lifetime take home pay here Still irrelevant to your original remarks. *Would you like to recant? -- "You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of *your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Mark Twain would you prefer the last nasa manned launch price? each shuttle about 1.5 billion divided by 7 astronauts...... |
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On Dec 28, 3:59*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote: On Dec 28, 3:35 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote: bob haller wrote: i beleve private people flying on soyuz were paying 20 million per ride. Soyuz isn't NASA and isn't charging 'pound to orbit' prices. in any case it multiple times anyones lifetime take home pay here Still irrelevant to your original remarks. Would you like to recant? would you prefer the last nasa manned launch price? each shuttle about 1.5 billion divided by 7 astronauts...... I would prefer YOUR ORIGINAL CLAIM, you lying little ****. *'Price per pound to launch'. Explain to us how they sent the Shuttles up with the only payload being the crew again.... -- "You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of *your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Mark Twain- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - compare the cost ofg falcon with any planned nasa launcher........ now compare their price per pound |
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On Dec 28, 11:35*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote: Oh, bobbert, bobbert. Still crying like Chicken Little. Your ignorance of politics is legendary. Need you be reminded that the key members of House and Senate Committees that deal with NASA all come from "Space States", and they decide how much money NASA finally gets, NOT the Administration. Again, you keep living in a fantasy world. Get out of your basement and get into the real one for a change your ignoring the elephants in the room...... the next election will likely see a big turn out of existing congressional reps, they must know its coming given their approval rate of 10% or less. It's been that low for a long time and yet reelection rates are over 95%. and the fiancial collapse of our country........ The sky is falling. *THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!! those leaders of congress will likely be on the unemployment line....... You really are a buffoon. *Could you please educate yourself about SOMETHING? **ANYTHING*???? incidently that was bob schieffers prediction on face the nation last sunday. Yeah, sure. *Go look at who's on the committees and then tell us which ones you think will lose. -- "Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is *only stupid." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine He won't educate himself, Fred. He's stuck in his dream world and that's that. Anything that conflicts with his fantasies he ignores, or spins and twists to suit said fantasies. |
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NASA, SpaceX Set First Dragon Launch To ISS
On Dec 28, 11:09*am, bob haller wrote:
On Dec 28, 1:59*pm, Matt Wiser wrote: On Dec 28, 3:50*am, bob haller wrote: congress doesnt listen to anyone but the wealthy who pay for their re elections..... You really are an ignorant sod, aren't you? *Please explain just how "the wealthy" do this, given campaign finance limits. the congressmen get groups to do their advertising for them. so as to avoid campagn funding law limits, they do this by promising stuff to these groups..... basically their votes are bought you scratch my back i will scratch yours. this is a major cause of our countries troubles today. it causes gridlock, because no one can compromise, even when its in everyones best interest. now here again is the direct paste from the republican debate. please explain in detail how any of these presidential candidates are supportive of MSF at all? ================================================== =================== The Republican presidential field sent a clear message to NASA workers in America: They don’t see a federal role in funding human space flight, [video clip at 6:50 to 9:28]. Debate moderator John King of CNN asked the other six candidates in attendance whether they would continue federal funding for human space flight. Not a single candidate - Texas Rep. Ron Paul, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum and former Godfather’s Pizza CEO Herman Cain — raised their hand. The unanimous verdict came during a New Hampshire presidential debate tonight and following a scathing assessment of NASA management by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga. GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich says "NASA has become an absolute case study in why bureaucracy cannot innovate,” he said. “What we have is bureaucracy after bureaucracy, failure after failure.” ---------------------------------------------------------------------------***------------------------ One other thing, boobert: there's a saying among space buffs (which clearly, you're not): "The Meek can have the Earth. The Rest of us are going to the Stars." My bags are packed. So where are you, hmm? Since you're obviously a Luddite, troll, and a Chicken Little, it's obvious.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - your not going anywhere unless your depending on russia, and they arent having a good run right now.... and anything nasa will cost you more than you could earn in several lifetimes just for launch cost per pound- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Not only are you one of the meek, but you're a lying twit. More "sky is falling" BS. Come back when you have something else. |
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On Dec 28, 5:30*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote: On Dec 28, 3:59*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote: bob haller wrote: On Dec 28, 3:35 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote: bob haller wrote: i beleve private people flying on soyuz were paying 20 million per ride. Soyuz isn't NASA and isn't charging 'pound to orbit' prices. in any case it multiple times anyones lifetime take home pay here Still irrelevant to your original remarks. Would you like to recant? would you prefer the last nasa manned launch price? each shuttle about 1.5 billion divided by 7 astronauts...... I would prefer YOUR ORIGINAL CLAIM, you lying little ****. *'Price per pound to launch'. Explain to us how they sent the Shuttles up with the only payload being the crew again.... compare the cost ofg falcon with any planned nasa launcher........ now compare their price per pound Your claim wasn't "NASA is more expensive". *Your claim was YOU CANNOT EARN ENOUGH MONEY IN SEVERAL LIFETIMES TO PAY THE COST PER POUND LAUNCH COSTS OF NASA FOR A HUMAN BEING. Dodge and wriggle all you like. *It merely makes it OBVIOUS that you're a lying ****. -- "False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the *soul with evil." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Socrates- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - take a average american of 200 pounds and current launch cost per pound times 20 current cost per pound is way too much for a human. a easy way to think about this....... with soyuz costs per person at what 63 million. how many people make that much in a lifetime? and currently soyuz is the only commercially available system realize you cant compare price per pound for no living cargo with the costs involved for humans |
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Your claim was YOU CANNOT EARN ENOUGH MONEY IN SEVERAL LIFETIMES TO
PAY THE COST PER POUND LAUNCH COSTS OF NASA FOR A HUMAN BEING. fred since nasa has no human launcher, and only a new vague plan for a human launch vehicle in the far future, that will not cut shuttle costs.... so again i am correct. the only way the US can launch a human being is by soyuz at err 63 million each. |
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