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What is wrong with the 'Mainstream Scientific Establishment'?
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011, Jerry wrote:
On Oct 16, 2:46*pm, Timo Nieminen wrote: Amazing! You managed to be even stupider! The evidence: Majorana, Phil Mag 35, 163 (1918), Phil Mag 37, 145 (1919). The local university library has this reference as an electronic resource, but it will be a while before I have time to look it up. This is the one that Panofsky & Phillips give in their historical overview of experiments on emission and aether theories (ch 15 (iirc) in their textbook), so it's a good basic starting point. (P&P's coverage of this is very good for a general EM textbook. Especially when compared with the ones that say "once upon a time, physicists believed in the aether, then MMX happened, and they didn't, which isn't true, and isn't very educationally useful. It is a concise account, though, thus its popularity.) Meanwhile, here are some online references for your perusal. Some are relevant to the current variant emission theories discussion, some aren't: http://tinyurl.com/4y39tyx http://tinyurl.com/3btwyu5 http://tinyurl.com/3wxz94d http://tinyurl.com/3jg2rgs http://tinyurl.com/3z72snu More papers for Androcles to ignore and Henry Wilson DSc to say are wrong! |
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"Timo Nieminen" wrote in message news:Pine.LNX.4.50.1110170940250.2630-100000@localhost... On Sun, 16 Oct 2011, Jerry wrote: On Oct 16, 2:46 pm, Timo Nieminen wrote: Amazing! You managed to be even stupider! The evidence: Majorana, Phil Mag 35, 163 (1918), Phil Mag 37, 145 (1919). The local university library has this reference as an electronic resource, but it will be a while before I have time to look it up. This is the one that Panofsky & Phillips give in their historical overview of experiments on emission and aether theories (ch 15 (iirc) in their textbook), so it's a good basic starting point. (P&P's coverage of this is very good for a general EM textbook. Especially when compared with the ones that say "once upon a time, physicists believed in the aether, then MMX happened, and they didn't, which isn't true, and isn't very educationally useful. It is a concise account, though, thus its popularity.) Meanwhile, here are some online references for your perusal. Some are relevant to the current variant emission theories discussion, some aren't: http://tinyurl.com/4y39tyx http://tinyurl.com/3btwyu5 http://tinyurl.com/3wxz94d http://tinyurl.com/3jg2rgs http://tinyurl.com/3z72snu More papers for Androcles to ignore and Henry Wilson DSc to say are wrong! ================================================ http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu//...00.htmlAnother experiment there no need to repeat and the **** NNN* will ignore.*NNN: No Need Neiminen.--"No need to repeat such experiments" -- Timo Nieminen, 16th Oct, 2011 http://tinyurl.com/NoNeedNieminenAs a proud Einstein disciple, perhaps you can persuade the BelgianWaffle to im-moortel-ise you as well. It calls such utterances by itsfellow relativistic saints "gems". Cardinal Bellarmine would be proudof you, Doctor Timo Nieminen of the University of Queensland. |
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On Oct 14, 6:24*pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc.) wrote:
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:13:49 +0100, "Androcles" wrote: "Henry Wilson DSc." ..@.. wrote in message .. . | On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:34:08 +0100, "Androcles" | wrote: | | | When you switch on your torch, what aspect of the beam constitutes a | | 'frequency'? | | The periodic alternation of the electric and magnetic fields of the photons, | one from each molecule of tungsten in the torch bulb filament. | **** off, deranged bloody baboon.!!!!!!!!!!!! | | OK, 3 out of ten for that. ...Nobody has ever detected such an oscillation. Ok, 0 out of 0 for that, radio, radar and microwave radiation is well understood by pommie engineers but obviously not by ignorant ozzie sheep shaggers with their head up Einstein's arse where they can only detect ****. radio waves are not single photons.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Henry: Radio "waves" (sic!) are chains of photons spaced two far apart to cause those to be visible in the photo receptors of the eye. Their regular-recurring interval can be detected in devices tuned to the harmonic frequency. In the early "crystal" (quartz) radios, the frequency was adjusted using a slider whose pointed tip cut into a fine coil of otherwise insulated copper wire. The point of the slider, effectively, changed the length of the outside, bare copper wire "antenna" so that only photons arriving at 'that' harmonic length could be detected. The harmonic energy was directed to a quartz crystal which converted the energy pulses into electrical pulses that can be heard through simple, magnetic ear phones as voices or music. — NoEinstein — |
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On Oct 14, 6:27*pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc.) wrote:
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 21:13:34 +1100, Byron Forbes wrote: In article , ..@.. says... Diaper you are such an incuarble moron. The change in velocity changes the in 'wavecrest' arrival frequency, as shown in my illustration. the wavelength is intrinsic and cannot be affected by the movement of an observer or his grating. You'll note that just by changing your movement in your car, the frequency from a siren fixed to the ground also changes. HOORAY! YOU FINALLY GOT THE MESSAGE DIAPER! YOU HAVE AGREED WITH ME! * *Ans since he makes the analogy to sound, the speed of sound is c + the speed of air so he has now abandoned SR. They cannot rid themselves of the aetehr concept. After all, they claim SR and LET are identical so it is plainly obvioius that Einstein's crap is nothing more than a disguised version of aether theory. Also, an aether is absolutely essential for light speed to be independent of its source speed. Raving? What's raving about what's measured, Henry? Just because it blows your wee little mind doesn't mean a thing.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Henry: You should have learned by now that light speed IS source dependent! The ether NURTURES light on its way by favoring velocity 'c', the tangential velocity of the IOTAs that compose the ether. Faster light, over extremely long distances, will be slowed by the IOTAs back to velocity 'c'. Slower light, over extremely long distances, will be speeded up to velocity 'c'. Such facts explain why there is little or no Doppler shifts in objects at very great distances. — NoEinstein — |
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On 10/16/11 8:22 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
Henry: Radio "waves" (sic!) are chains of photons spaced two far apart to cause those to be visible in the photo receptors of the eye. John Armistead, who admits he's NoEinstein, sticks his feet in his mouth once again! The human eye is sensitive to 400-700 nm and has nothing to do with spacing of individual photons. Physics FAQ: Can a Human See a Single Photon? http://johanw.home.xs4all.nl/PhysFAQ..._a_photon.html |
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On Sep 3, 12:38*pm, GSS wrote:
Agreed that grasping the intricacies of physical phenomena and developing theories thereof, is a slow and tedious process which forms an integral part of our evolution. But why mistaken beliefs, erroneous assumptions and wrong theories go undetected, uncorrected for hundreds of years even in the modern age of instant communications? Why the collective wisdom of millions of scientists in the 'Mainstream Scientific Establishment' cannot detect, check or correct the follies of a few individuals for hundreds of years? The case in point is the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein. Precious human and material resources are being wasted in sustaining the mistaken beliefs in 'length contraction', 'time dilation', 'spacetime curvature' and fictitious 'Inertial Reference Frames in relative motion'. Recently Pentcho Valev had quoted some excerpts from an article, "Einstein's sceptics: Who were the relativity deniers?" in New Scientist, 18 November 2010 by Milena Wazeck. [Yet what flourishes today on the fringes of the internet was much more prominent in the 1920s, in the activities of a movement that included physics professors and even Nobel laureates. Who were Einstein's opponents? (...) Gehrcke was an experimental physicist at the Imperial Technical Institute in Berlin. Like many experimentalists of that era, he felt uncomfortable with the rise of a theory that demanded a reformulation of the fundamental concepts of space and time. In 1921 he argued that giving up the idea of absolute time threatened to confuse the basis of cause and effect in natural phenomena. (...) Another motivation was more noble. Einstein's opponents were seriously concerned about the future of science. They did not simply disagree with the theory of general relativity; they opposed the new foundations of physics altogether. The increasing role played by advanced mathematics seemed to disconnect physics from reality. "Mathematics is the science of the imaginable, but natural science is the science of the real," Gehrcke stated in 1921. Engineer Eyvind Heidenreich, who found relativity incomprehensible, went further: "This is not science. On the contrary, it is a new brand of metaphysics." (...) By the mid-1920s Einstein's opponents were facing overwhelming resistance, and most refrained from taking a public stance against the theory of relativity. Many of them simply gave up, and the Academy of Nations ceased to serve as the central organisation campaigning against Einstein, though it lingered on until the early 1930s. But the anti-relativists did not revise their opinion. In 1951, Gehrcke was still writing letters about the fight against relativity. "The day will come where everything about this theory will be abandoned by the world at large, but when will this be?" he asked. The debate about relativity lingers on today. Though the new generation of Einstein's opponents have mostly moved their protests online, they share some fundamental characteristics with their predecessors.] It is not a normal phenomenon that mistaken beliefs, erroneous assumptions and wrong theories could go undetected, uncorrected for hundreds of years, in spite of the relentless efforts of many intellectuals. It points to a serious malady in the body of 'Mainstream Scientific Establishment'. In my opinion, following factors have contributed to the growth of this malady. (a) Growing *complexity of mathematical models developed to represent physical reality, often obscure the physical reality to such an extent that the difference between the two is lost in wilderness. (b) It is generally believed that a physical theory can only be invalidated through the results of practical experiments, but the founding assumptions of the theory are rarely examined or tested in depth. (c) Often particular interpretations of observations made during practical experiments are announced as results of those experiments. (d) With the advent of specialization and super-specialization, the expertise in different fields of science has got compartmentalized to such an extent that no body expects an 'outsider' to check or correct any erroneous assumptions made in a specialized field of research. (e) All established systems of training new scientists, invariably contain an implicit component of 'indoctrination' that encourages maintenance of status quo and discourages questioning of the established beliefs and dogmas. However, it still remains an enigma as to how the mistaken beliefs, erroneous assumptions and wrong theories could go undetected, uncorrected for hundreds of years, in spite of the relentless efforts of many intellectuals? Learned readers are requested to share their views on this issue. Further, kindly refer to my following two papers published in a mainstream international journal of physics, which clearly establish that the theory of Relativity is founded on erroneous assumptions and sustained by mistaken beliefs. 1. *Proposed experiment for detection of absolute motion Abstract: According to special theory of relativity, all motion is relative and existence of any privileged or absolute inertial frame of reference, which could be practically distinguished from all other inertial frames, is ruled out. However, we may define an absolute or universal reference frame as the one which is at rest with respect to the center of mass of the universe and assume the speed c of propagation of light to be an isotropic universal constant in that frame. Any motion with respect to such a reference frame will be called "absolute motion." The proposed experiment establishes the feasibility of detection of such an absolute motion by measuring the up-link and down-link signal propagation times between two fixed points on the surface of earth. With current technological advancements in pulsed lasers, detectors, precision atomic clocks, and computers, feasibility of the proposed experiment has been confirmed. Successful conduct of the proposed experiment will initiate a paradigm shift in fundamental physics. This paper demonstrates that the second postulate of SR is wrong, and that the Newtonian notions of absolute space and time are correct. It describes a simple doable experiment to confirm the same.https://sites.google.com/a/fundament.../Home/book_fil... 2. *Demystification of the spacetime model of relativity Abstract: The geometrical interpretation of gravitation in general theory of relativity imparts certain mystical properties to the spacetime continuum. The mystic connotations associated with this spacetime model may be attributed to the fallacious depiction of spacetime as a physical entity. This paper proves that the spacetime continuum in general relativity is a simple mathematical model and not a physical entity. This paper establishes the fact that GR is founded on the mistaken belief that the spacetime is a physical entity which can even get "curved". It has been clearly demonstrated that spacetime is not a physical entity but just a mathematical 4D 'graphical' template used to compute gravitational trajectories of particles as geodesic curves. The so called "curvature" of spacetime is an utterly misleading 'misnomer' which just represents a non-zero value of the Riemann tensor composed from the scaling factors of different axes of the 'graphical' template.https://sites.google.com/a/fundament.../Home/book_fil... GSShttp://book.fundamentalphysics.info/ Dear GSS (or the 'knowing' readers in general): In looking for GSS in the latter days of this post, he isn't involved. I am impressed by his sensible analysis of what is wrong with the present science establishment. Now, the subject of discussion has changed to... the nature of light and the aether, etc. GSS could well be too sensible to be involved in the daily arguments over what is what in science. I hope that he is doing fine, at whatever project he may be undertaking. Unlike me, GSS likes to read about the history and the basis for science thought—screwed-up or not. Though my time is limited, I would urge others to read more of GSS's threads. — NoEinstein — |
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On 10/16/11 8:28 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
Henry: You should have learned by now that light speed IS source dependent! The ether NURTURES light on its way by favoring velocity 'c', the tangential velocity of the IOTAs that compose the ether. Faster light, over extremely long distances, will be slowed by the IOTAs back to velocity 'c'. Slower light, over extremely long distances, will be speeded up to velocity 'c'. Such facts explain why there is little or no Doppler shifts in objects at very great distances. — NoEinstein — John Armistead, who admits he's NoEinstein, sticks his feet in his mouth once again! The 2011 Nobel Prize was awarded to astrophysicists who made use of Doppler shift of very distant supernovae. |
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"Timo Nieminen" wrote in message ... So your preferred option is to, despite the experiment having been done, refuse to look at the results, for then the results will cease to exist, and your theory will cease to be falsified? ========================================= My "theory" as you call it, is the vector addition of velocities for light. Whatever the results of your "experiment", you cannot falsify mathematics. If you think you have then repeat your experiment, it contains error, you stupid, useless, dishonest, mentally deranged dumb****. This is your theory: r_AB/(c+v) = r_AB/(c-v). References given: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img6.gif http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img11.gif Let r_AB = 480 million metres, let c = 300 million metres/sec, let v = 180 million metres/sec. 480/(300-180) = 480/(300 +180) 480/(120) = 480/(480) 4 = 1 -- your theory is falsified, you stupid, useless, dishonest, mentally deranged dumb****. "In agreement with experience we further assume the quantity 2AB/(t'A-tA) = c to be a universal constant, the velocity of light in empty space." --§ 1. Definition of Simultaneity -- ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES By A. Einstein "the velocity of light in our theory plays the part, physically, of an infinitely great velocity"--§ 4. Physical Meaning of the Equations Obtained in Respect to Moving Rigid Bodies and Moving Clocks --ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES By A. Einstein In agreement with experience we further assume four seconds plays the part, physically, of one second, the idiocy of raving lunatics in Relativityland. -- "No need to repeat such experiments" -- Timo Nieminen, 16th Oct, 2011 http://tinyurl.com/NoNeedNieminen As a proud Einstein disciple, perhaps you can persuade the Belgian Waffle to im-moortel-ise you as well. It calls such utterances by its fellow relativistic saints "gems". Cardinal Bellarmine would be proud of you, Doctor Timo Nieminen of the University of Queensland. |
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On Oct 17, 12:45*pm, "Androcles" .
2011 wrote: "Timo Nieminen" wrote: So your preferred option is to, despite the experiment having been done, refuse to look at the results, for then the results will cease to exist, and your theory will cease to be falsified? ========================================= My "theory" as you call it, is the vector addition of velocities for light. |
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On Oct 17, 6:44 am, NoEinstein wrote:
On Sep 3, 12:38 pm, GSS wrote: Agreed that grasping the intricacies of physical phenomena and developing theories thereof, is a slow and tedious process which forms an integral part of our evolution. But why mistaken beliefs, erroneous assumptions and wrong theories go undetected, uncorrected for hundreds of years even in the modern age of instant communications? Why the collective wisdom of millions of scientists in the 'Mainstream Scientific Establishment' cannot detect, check or correct the follies of a few individuals for hundreds of years? The case in point is the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein. Precious human and material resources are being wasted in sustaining the mistaken beliefs in 'length contraction', 'time dilation', 'spacetime curvature' and fictitious 'Inertial Reference Frames in relative motion'. ..... It is not a normal phenomenon that mistaken beliefs, erroneous assumptions and wrong theories could go undetected, uncorrected for hundreds of years, in spite of the relentless efforts of many intellectuals. It points to a serious malady in the body of 'Mainstream Scientific Establishment'. In my opinion, following factors have contributed to the growth of this malady. (a) Growing complexity of mathematical models developed to represent physical reality, often obscure the physical reality to such an extent that the difference between the two is lost in wilderness. (b) It is generally believed that a physical theory can only be invalidated through the results of practical experiments, but the founding assumptions of the theory are rarely examined or tested in depth. (c) Often particular interpretations of observations made during practical experiments are announced as results of those experiments. (d) With the advent of specialization and super-specialization, the expertise in different fields of science has got compartmentalized to such an extent that no body expects an 'outsider' to check or correct any erroneous assumptions made in a specialized field of research. (e) All established systems of training new scientists, invariably contain an implicit component of 'indoctrination' that encourages maintenance of status quo and discourages questioning of the established beliefs and dogmas. However, it still remains an enigma as to how the mistaken beliefs, erroneous assumptions and wrong theories could go undetected, uncorrected for hundreds of years, in spite of the relentless efforts of many intellectuals? Learned readers are requested to share their views on this issue. ..... Dear GSS (or the 'knowing' readers in general): In looking for GSS in the latter days of this post, he isn't involved. I am impressed by his sensible analysis of what is wrong with the present science establishment. Now, the subject of discussion has changed to... the nature of light and the aether, etc. GSS could well be too sensible to be involved in the daily arguments over what is what in science. I hope that he is doing fine, at whatever project he may be undertaking. Unlike me, GSS likes to read about the history and the basis for science thought—screwed-up or not. Though my time is limited, I would urge others to read more of GSS's threads. — NoEinstein — Dear 'NoEinstein', Thanks for appreciating my viewpoint. In this thread I had wondered as to why mistaken beliefs, erroneous assumptions and wrong theories could go undetected, uncorrected for hundreds of years, in spite of the relentless efforts of many intellectuals. The case in point was the Theory of Relativity whereby precious human and material resources are being wasted in sustaining the mistaken beliefs in 'length contraction', 'time dilation', 'spacetime curvature' and fictitious 'Inertial Reference Frames in relative motion'. Even though most learned readers agree that there is 'something' wrong with Theory of Relativity, they are unable to agree on any alternative. Almost everyone, who disagrees with Relativity, is keen to push forward his/her individual new theory/world-view/hypothesis/ model or viewpoint as an alternative. And there is absolutely no consensus on any alternative viewpoint. This, in my opinion, is the crux of the problem. Whereas the pro-Relativity scientists who favor maintenance of status quo are in a majority and speak in one voice, the opponents are all dis-united and pulling in different directions. Logically, I concede that if you find fault with some accepted theory/ model or viewpoint, you are expected to offer some viable alternative. At the same time it is simply not true that we need to develop a consensus on the alternative theory/model or viewpoint before rejecting the faulty theory/model. Therefore, it is much more appropriate to first focus on exposing the flaws in the Relativity theory and only after firmly discarding Relativity we may discuss the merits and viability of various alternative theories/models/ viewpoints. After prolonged discussions with hard-core Relativists on the Usenet, I am convinced that the only way to finally discard Relativity is to invalidate it through an unambiguous, convincing and repeatable simple experiment. In this regard I have recently requested a number of leading scientists and research establishments to explore the possibility of conducting the "Proposed experiment for detection of absolute motion". Copy of the communication is appended below. [Respected Scientists, Reference- My previous message dated July 25, 2010 on the subject, "Proposed experiment for detection of absolute motion". Neutrino time of flight anomaly is not a case of superluminal neutrino velocity. It is a natural consequence of not accounting for the absolute motion of the neutrino target in space. But the special theory of Relativity (SR), through the operation of its second postulate, rules out the existence of any absolute motion. Hence the neutrino time of flight anomaly is essentially challenging the validity of the second postulate of SR. Let us consider the time of flight of a signal pulse from a transmitter A on the ground to a receiver B on a spacecraft. At an instant t1 let a signal pulse be emitted from the transmitter when the instantaneous locations of A and B are A1 and B1 in space. Let the signal pulse reach B at an instant t2 when the instantaneous locations of A and B are A2 and B2 respectively in space. The total time of flight of the signal pulse will now depend on the instantaneous separation distance A1B1 as well as the distance B1B2 which represents the motion of the receiver during the pulse propagation time. For monitoring any spacecraft the motion of the receiver, during the signal pulse propagation time, is always taken into account. In the case of OPERA neutrino experiment, the absolute motion of the neutrino target (in the direction of the source) during the neutrino flight time influences the total flight time of the neutrino bunch. The known motions of the earth around the sun and that of the solar system within the galaxy, obviously contribute to the absolute motion of the neutrino 'source and the target' in space. Since this absolute motion of the neutrino target has not been taken into account, it has resulted in the present time of flight anomaly. In this experiment, the effect of absolute motion gets mitigated to some extent due to the continuous synchronization of the source and target master clocks with the GPS time. This effect will produce a greater neutrino time of flight anomaly if instead of GPS synchronized clocks, two primary standard Cs atomic clocks are used at the source and target locations. Of course these two master clocks will have to be first mutually synchronized in close by position before moving them to the two locations. Then the times of flight of neutrino bunches measured during a 24 hour cycle will show a cyclic variation (over and above some constant anomaly) of their time of flight during the 24 hour period. This experiment can be repeated within the existing facility without any major alterations. Alternatively, the two master clocks at the source and target sites may be allowed to run free (without GPS link) after initially synchronizing them with the GPS time. The neutrino flight time measurements conducted during 24 hour period of 'stand alone' operation of the master clocks will show a larger time of flight anomaly. In this regard kindly refer to my paper titled, "Proposed experiment for detection of absolute motion" published in Physics Essays [Phys. Essays 23, 442 (2010)]. https://sites.google.com/a/fundament...edirects=0&d=1 Quoting Albert Einstein, from his 1905 paper, "... We establish by definition that the time required by light to travel from A to B equals the time it requires to travel from B to A." This arbitrary definition of 'time' constitutes a fundamental departure from the Newtonian notion of absolute time, which has ultimately obscured the notion of absolute motion. Einstein had essentially employed his second postulate to establish by definition that the time required by light to travel from A to B equals the time it requires to travel from B to A. Let me outline the above referred 'proposed experiment' to show the invalidity of the second postulate of SR. Let us consider two points A and B fixed on the surface of earth and aligned along east-west direction. Let the separation distance AB be about 30 km. Position two mutually synchronized identical precision atomic clocks at stations A and B. http://www.symmetricom.com/products/...illators/chip- scale-atomic-clock-csac/SA.45s-CSAC/ Now as part of the experiment, send a light pulse from A to B and record its time of flight with the two clocks at A and B. Let this measured time of flight be T_ab. Then send another light pulse from B to A and record its time of flight with the two clocks. Let this measured time of flight be T_ba. Repeat these 'to and fro' time of flight measurements for a period of 24 hours. Plot the difference in the 'to and fro' flight times, [T_ab-T_ba] over the test period. As per SR (if the second postulate is true), this 'to and fro' flight time difference |T_ab-T_ba| must be of the order of zero. On the other hand, if the second postulate is not true, then the plot of 'to and fro' flight time differences, [T_ab-T_ba] will be a sinusoidal curve with amplitude in the range of about 100 to 200 nano-seconds. Since at present it is extremely important for the scientific community to "explain the observed neutrino flight time anomaly", it becomes equally important to actually conduct the 'proposed experiment' referred above. You are, therefore, requested to kindly confirm if the 'proposed experiment for detection of absolute motion' could be conducted at your end. Thanking you, Yours Sincerely, G S Sandhu http://book.fundamentalphysics.info/ ] However, only one scientist has responded so far, expressing his inability as, "Unfortunately, I do not have funds or political power to promote that experiment". I only hope that the current 'neutrino time of flight anomaly will create the necessity and urgency for conducting the proposed experiment at the earliest. G S Sandhu |
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