The return of Zarya?

Back in the good ol' days of Soviet space exploration, the Russians
designed a "Super Soyuz" named Zarya:
http://www.astronautix.com/craft/zarya.htm
Now they've announced work has started on a six person crewed "Super
Soyuz" again:
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TECH/spa...spacecraft.ap/
...and the description sounds a lot like Zarya.

Pat

"Pat Flannery" wrote:
Back in the good ol' days of Soviet space exploration, the Russians
designed a "Super Soyuz" named Zarya:
http://www.astronautix.com/craft/zarya.htm

Can't they come up with a new name? Does *everything* have to be called
"Zarya" (sunrise)?

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"Roger Balettie" wrote


Can't they come up with a new name? Does *everything* have to be called
"Zarya" (sunrise)?


Well, there's Molniya and Granit... (Old Cold War joke about the
restricted namespace of Soviet programs.)

Pat Flannery wrote:

Back in the good ol' days of Soviet space exploration, the Russians
designed a "Super Soyuz" named Zarya:
http://www.astronautix.com/craft/zarya.htm
Now they've announced work has started on a six person crewed "Super
Soyuz" again:
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TECH/spa...spacecraft.ap/
..and the description sounds a lot like Zarya.

Yep. And they are working on a Mars mission, and a spaceplane, and
MIR 2, and nuclear reactors for space...

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Well, there's Molniya and Granit...

Heh heh...I was gonna suggest "Molniya". (Lightning)

Allen Thomson wrote:

"Roger Balettie" wrote

Can't they come up with a new name? Does *everything* have to be called
"Zarya" (sunrise)?

Well, there's Molniya and Granit... (Old Cold War joke about the
restricted namespace of Soviet programs.)

And on this side, there have been two Viking projects, two Voyagers,
and I think the Telstars in geosynch orbit are unrelated to the
original Telstars, but I'm not certain. The Delta-IV and Atlas
boosters don't have much in common with the original Thor/Vanguard
and Atlas ICBM boosters. We've had two individual spacecraft named
Columbia and two Challengers. There's also the upcoming launch of
Gravity Probe B.

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Allen Thomson wrote:

"Roger Balettie" wrote

Can't they come up with a new name? Does *everything* have to be called
"Zarya" (sunrise)?

Well, there's Molniya and Granit... (Old Cold War joke about the
restricted namespace of Soviet programs.)

And on this side, there have been two Viking projects, two Voyagers,
and I think the Telstars in geosynch orbit are unrelated to the
original Telstars, but I'm not certain. The Delta-IV and Atlas
boosters don't have much in common with the original Thor/Vanguard
and Atlas ICBM boosters. We've had two individual spacecraft named
Columbia and two Challengers. There's also the upcoming launch of
Gravity Probe B.

There have been two Beagles aimed at Mars, and the second try actually
got off the ground :-)
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Derek Lyons wrote:

Yep. And they are working on a Mars mission, and a spaceplane, and
MIR 2, and nuclear reactors for space...


Do I denote a slight hint of skepticism in your judgment of their
present technical prowess? Okay, so maybe their recent SLBM launches
didn't go all that well.... with one stuck halfway out of the tube; one
canceled; and the third going completely out of control shortly after
launch.... ;-)

Pat

On 2004-02-21, William R. Thompson wrote:

We've had two individual spacecraft named
Columbia and two Challengers.

And two Endeavour's


Iain

(Derek Lyons) writes:

Yep. And they are working on a Mars mission, and a spaceplane, and
MIR 2, and nuclear reactors for space...


The US is finally working on a new manned space vehicle, a lunar base,
an manned mars expeditions. This is on top of nuclear reactors for
space and new electric propulsion systems that would use them.
Unfortunately, the many false starts made by the US in these areas
looks a lot like the many false starts made by the Russians.

There is little difference between the US and Russia besides the level
of funding, which does lead the US to have a slightly higher level of
credibility than Russia when it announces new initiatives in space
(but only slightly).

Jeff
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