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Old February 3rd 07, 03:54 PM posted to alt.astronomy,alt.fan.art-bell,alt.usenet.kooks,sci.astro
Art Deco[_5_]
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Double-A wrote:

On Feb 3, 12:02 am, (Tom Kerr) wrote:
In article . com,
"Double-A" wrote:

On Feb 2, 1:11 pm, Scott Miller wrote:
Double-A wrote:
On Feb 2, 3:53 am, Scott Miller wrote:


[...]

Spoken like the uninformed. Out of curiosity, how much water do you
think would survive the collision between two planet-sized bodies?


Water is part of basic chemical composition of most rocks on Earth. I
would have thought you would have known that.


That doesn't answer the question. Let's put it more specifically: how much
water would survive in the rocks that were directly impacted and formed
the moon?



Why should I be responsible for answering that question? It is his
theory not mine that the rocks came from the Earth. Anhydrous Moon
rocks fit the theory of seprarate formation perfectly.

Recall this collision destroys the smaller impactor while escavating the
crust and upper mantle of the Earth. I assume such an "informed"
statement is supported by the calculations you have done to determine
the energy and the survivability of water under those conditions.
Please provide those results.


This not about the survivability of free water, O snide one, the water
is chemically bound in the Earth's rocks.


At the time of the collision the water would have been mostly trapped in
terrestrial rocks. The energy of the impact would have vaporised the water
and the more volatile elements. This is exactly what's seen in lunar rock
samples - they are similar to terrestrial rocks except they are dry and
the volatile/refractory elemental abundance ratio is much smaller compared
to earth rocks of similar age.

I would also be interested to see your calculations about how much water
would survive such an impact in the debris, and please include the initial
abundance of chemically bound water, e.g., in clay, compared to trapped
water, when the impact occured. I look forward to your analysis.



Hey, this Earth origin Moon is your theory. Shouldn't you be the one
supplying those calculations in support of it? But hey, don't break a
sweat. I'm not holding my breath!


Another person that dares question the holy saucerhead writ. You'd
better run away and put him in the "stowfile", too.

Double-A



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Old February 4th 07, 04:56 PM posted to sci.astro
RT
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On Feb 3, 10:54 am, Art Deco wrote:
Double-A wrote:
On Feb 3, 12:02 am, (Tom Kerr) wrote:
In article . com,
"Double-A" wrote:


On Feb 2, 1:11 pm, Scott Miller wrote:
Double-A wrote:
On Feb 2, 3:53 am, Scott Miller wrote:


[...]


Spoken like the uninformed. Out of curiosity, how much water do you
think would survive the collision between two planet-sized bodies?


Water is part of basic chemical composition of most rocks on Earth. I
would have thought you would have known that.


That doesn't answer the question. Let's put it more specifically: how much
water would survive in the rocks that were directly impacted and formed
the moon?


Why should I be responsible for answering that question? It is his
theory not mine that the rocks came from the Earth. Anhydrous Moon
rocks fit the theory of seprarate formation perfectly.


Recall this collision destroys the smaller impactor while escavating the
crust and upper mantle of the Earth. I assume such an "informed"
statement is supported by the calculations you have done to determine
the energy and the survivability of water under those conditions.
Please provide those results.


This not about the survivability of free water, O snide one, the water
is chemically bound in the Earth's rocks.


At the time of the collision the water would have been mostly trapped in
terrestrial rocks. The energy of the impact would have vaporised the water
and the more volatile elements. This is exactly what's seen in lunar rock
samples - they are similar to terrestrial rocks except they are dry and
the volatile/refractory elemental abundance ratio is much smaller compared
to earth rocks of similar age.


I would also be interested to see your calculations about how much water
would survive such an impact in the debris, and please include the initial
abundance of chemically bound water, e.g., in clay, compared to trapped
water, when the impact occured. I look forward to your analysis.


Hey, this Earth origin Moon is your theory. Shouldn't you be the one
supplying those calculations in support of it? But hey, don't break a
sweat. I'm not holding my breath!


Another person that dares question the holy saucerhead writ. You'd
better run away and put him in the "stowfile", too.



Double-A


--
"To err is human, to cover it up is Weasel" -- Dogbert

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Old February 4th 07, 05:03 PM posted to sci.astro
RT
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On Feb 4, 11:56 am, "RT" wrote:
On Feb 3, 10:54 am, Art Deco wrote:

Double-A wrote:
On Feb 3, 12:02 am, (Tom Kerr) wrote:
In article . com,
"Double-A" wrote:


On Feb 2, 1:11 pm, Scott Miller wrote:
Double-A wrote:
On Feb 2, 3:53 am, Scott Miller wrote:


[...]


Spoken like the uninformed. Out of curiosity, how much water do you
think would survive the collision between two planet-sized bodies?


Water is part of basic chemical composition of most rocks on Earth. I
would have thought you would have known that.


That doesn't answer the question. Let's put it more specifically: how much
water would survive in the rocks that were directly impacted and formed
the moon?


Why should I be responsible for answering that question? It is his
theory not mine that the rocks came from the Earth. Anhydrous Moon
rocks fit the theory of seprarate formation perfectly.


Recall this collision destroys the smaller impactor while escavating the
crust and upper mantle of the Earth. I assume such an "informed"
statement is supported by the calculations you have done to determine
the energy and the survivability of water under those conditions.
Please provide those results.


This not about the survivability of free water, O snide one, the water
is chemically bound in the Earth's rocks.


At the time of the collision the water would have been mostly trapped in
terrestrial rocks. The energy of the impact would have vaporised the water
and the more volatile elements. This is exactly what's seen in lunar rock
samples - they are similar to terrestrial rocks except they are dry and
the volatile/refractory elemental abundance ratio is much smaller compared
to earth rocks of similar age.


I would also be interested to see your calculations about how much water
would survive such an impact in the debris, and please include the initial
abundance of chemically bound water, e.g., in clay, compared to trapped
water, when the impact occured. I look forward to your analysis.


Hey, this Earth origin Moon is your theory. Shouldn't you be the one
supplying those calculations in support of it? But hey, don't break a
sweat. I'm not holding my breath!


Another person that dares question the holy saucerhead writ. You'd
better run away and put him in the "stowfile", too.


Double-A


--
"To err is human, to cover it up is Weasel" -- Dogbert


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