A Space & astronomy forum. SpaceBanter.com

Go Back   Home » SpaceBanter.com forum » Space Science » Policy
Site Map Home Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old August 1st 09, 12:29 AM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
BradGuth
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 21,544
Default Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth

On Jul 30, 9:32*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Jul 25, 12:05*pm, BradGuth wrote:



On Jul 15, 10:33*am, BradGuth wrote:


On Jul 6, 6:55*am, BradGuth wrote:


Sirius and our solar system are clearly inseparable, at least
according to the regular laws of physics, Newtonian gravity and
orbital mechanics.


In spite of whatever those mainstream textbooks and their puppet media
has to say, we seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius
star cluster, even though Sirius has only been a relatively newish and
extremely vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from
our encountering another galaxy), and especially terrestrial
illuminating of the first 200~250 million years worth.


First off, it took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at the very
least 125,000 solar masses in order to produce such a 12.5 mass worthy
star system, leaving 99.99% of that molecular mass as supposedly blown
away and having to fend for itself, at a place and time when our
existing solar system wasn't any too far away. *Others might go so far
as to suggest a more than likely molecular cloud mass of 1.25 million,
while still others yet would prefer a more robust cloud worthy of 12.5
million solar masses as having emerged from encountering a smaller
galaxy that merged with our Milky Way. *In any case, that must have
been quite a stellar birthing process, especially if the remains of
this terrific cloud of originally near 100 ly diameter is suddenly
nowhere to be found.


In any case, there's no way that our passive little solar system
wasn't somehow directly affected by and otherwise having become tidal
radius interrelated with such a nearby mass, and/or at least
subsequently associated with the mutual barycenter that's primarily
dominated by the Sirius star/solar system.


Lo and behold, it seems that numerous mergers of galactic proportions
isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and Big
Bang of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest.


Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
*http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html


The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
*http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
*http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html


Local galactic motion simulation:
*"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.
Nordström et al.
*http://www.aanda.org/content/view/71/42/lang,en


According to several physics and astronomy kinds of *observationology
science (deductive interpretation of eye-candy plus other peer
replicated research), our Milky Way is made up of at least two
galactic units, with more of the same on their blue-shifted way
towards encountering us (namely Andromeda). *Seems hardly fair
considering that everything was supposedly created via one singular
Big Bang, not to mention that hundreds to perhaps thousands of
galaxies seem rather nicely headed into the Great Attractor (including
us) for their final demise and/or rebirth.


Don’t forget to appreciate those Hubble, KECK and multiple other
archives (including those of what FAS has compiled) depicting
“colliding galaxies”, as well as soon to become ESA color/hue enhanced
and expanded upon via a trio of their impressive orbital
observatories, not to mention whatever the renewed and improved Hubble
plus our next generation of orbital observatories should further
document. *It may even become hard to find galaxies as massive as ours
and Andromeda that are entirely original without their having grown
via mergers.


Where's our TRACEe3 and the all-knowing expertise from FAS, telling us
whatever they seem to know best or at least suspect is most likely?
Surely these brown-nosed clowns of mostly pretend Atheists, as well as
republican faith-based bigots and typically closed mindsets of our
Usenet/newsgroup cabal that are enforcing their mainstream status quo
(much like my personal rabbi shadow tries to do), are hopefully not
representing or otherwise speaking on behalf of our FAS.


*~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


What would have happened within our solar system and the environment
of Eden/Earth as we passed through any remaining portion of the same
molecular cloud of 1.25e7 solar masses, as what had just given birth
to those nearby Sirius stars and such having taken at least ten
millions to a hundred some odd million years in order to create?


I don't mean to be technically condescending or willfully disregarding
of other established interpretations, as always touted and enforced by
the usual preponderance of our alt.astronomy naysayers, but merely
asking as to the best available swag of what took place as of somewhat
recently within our solar system and upon Earth, as of a few years
after Sirius B had its helium flashover, whereas I truly believe this
consequence wasn't all that insignificant or entirely unrelated to our
Selene/moon having encountered Earth, and having ever since
contributed to the last ice-age thaw that abruptly started as of 11,
711 years ago, and obviously hasn’t stopped thawing us out ever since..


How can our solar system of 2.02e30 kg have been so unaffected by the
original 12.5e30 kg worth of the nearby Sirius star/solar system, and
even as of today by the remaining 7e30 kg worth of Sirius ABC that we
are moving ourselves towards at 7.6 km/sec?


Of the original proto-Sirius molecular cloud 12.5e6 solar masses that
existed some 250 (+/- 25) odd millions of years ago is also of
something truly horrific, that by rights should have affected our
nearby solar system and the frail environment of Eden/Earth,
especially as the cloud got blown/expanded further away from having
created the Sirius star system.


*Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

How can such a nearby and vibrant star system be so intellectually and
scientifically dark and scary?


Are we talking about stellar electron kinds of repulsion that'll far
exceed the Newtonian force of gravity?

As otherwise according to the peer accepted formula and that of the
much less force of gravity that's holding onto our Kuiper and Oort
cloud items is hardly worth anything compared to the mutual binding
force of gravity that exist between our solar system and that of
Sirius.

Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

  #2  
Old August 2nd 09, 05:08 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
BradGuth
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 21,544
Default Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth

On Jul 31, 4:29*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Jul 30, 9:32*pm, BradGuth wrote:



On Jul 25, 12:05*pm, BradGuth wrote:


On Jul 15, 10:33*am, BradGuth wrote:


On Jul 6, 6:55*am, BradGuth wrote:


Sirius and our solar system are clearly inseparable, at least
according to the regular laws of physics, Newtonian gravity and
orbital mechanics.


In spite of whatever those mainstream textbooks and their puppet media
has to say, we seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius
star cluster, even though Sirius has only been a relatively newish and
extremely vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from
our encountering another galaxy), and especially terrestrial
illuminating of the first 200~250 million years worth.


First off, it took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at the very
least 125,000 solar masses in order to produce such a 12.5 mass worthy
star system, leaving 99.99% of that molecular mass as supposedly blown
away and having to fend for itself, at a place and time when our
existing solar system wasn't any too far away. *Others might go so far
as to suggest a more than likely molecular cloud mass of 1.25 million,
while still others yet would prefer a more robust cloud worthy of 12.5
million solar masses as having emerged from encountering a smaller
galaxy that merged with our Milky Way. *In any case, that must have
been quite a stellar birthing process, especially if the remains of
this terrific cloud of originally near 100 ly diameter is suddenly
nowhere to be found.


In any case, there's no way that our passive little solar system
wasn't somehow directly affected by and otherwise having become tidal
radius interrelated with such a nearby mass, and/or at least
subsequently associated with the mutual barycenter that's primarily
dominated by the Sirius star/solar system.


Lo and behold, it seems that numerous mergers of galactic proportions
isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and Big
Bang of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest.


Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
*http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html


The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
*http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
*http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html


Local galactic motion simulation:
*"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.

 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth BradGuth Policy 8 July 24th 09 09:50 PM
Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth BradGuth Policy 3 July 15th 09 04:18 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:21 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 SpaceBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.