"Marooned" horrific inaccuracies....?!

Talk about _egregious_ inaccuracies! Take a look at
http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicl.../mapollo06.jpg

....on the Marooned! page at
http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicl...aroonedTop.htm

No wonder Richard Crenna's character dies on EVA! He's got no goddamn'
_gloves_ on in this shot!

And, don't even get me started about the placement of the RCS thrusters in
http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicl.../mapollo04.jpg

....hey, burp those pitch jets a bit, willya?

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Talk about _egregious_ inaccuracies! Take a look at
http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicl.../mapollo06.jpg

Publicity shot?

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Why was the Service Module shortened for the movie? To fit on a sound stage?

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Why was the Service Module shortened for the movie? To fit on a sound
stage?

For a possible fiction explanation- could it be that, since it was only
going to be in Earth orbit, the fuel tanks were cut down, and more weight in
the form of consumables and scientific equipment were enclosed in the CM?

Were this to be done in real life, the SM wouldn't be cut down. The SIM bay
would be loaded with stuff and retrieved on a spacewalk from the station. If
you wanted to lighten the load, you'd simply not fill the tanks.
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Scott Hedrick wrote:

Were this to be done in real life, the SM wouldn't be cut down.
The SIM bay would be loaded with stuff and retrieved on a
spacewalk from the station. If you wanted to lighten the load,
you'd simply not fill the tanks.

Actually, it is not possible for a Saturn IB to orbit a CSM with the
tanks full or anywhere near full. Indeed, in real life the Skylab and
ASTP CSMs had one fuel tank and one oxidizer tank removed.

Jim Davis

"Jim Davis" wrote in message
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Indeed, in real life the Skylab and
ASTP CSMs had one fuel tank and one oxidizer tank removed.

Which is a far cry from shortening the SM. For purposes of "Marooned", doing
so would allow more cargo space.
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On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:40:30 -0400, "Scott Hedrick"
wrote:

Were this to be done in real life, the SM wouldn't be cut down. The SIM bay
would be loaded with stuff and retrieved on a spacewalk from the station. If
you wanted to lighten the load, you'd simply not fill the tanks.

....But then again, that's the way it was in reality. A Saturn 1B was
incapable of putting a CSM stack with the SM tanks full into even a
really LEO. As a result, IIRC, both the SMs for Apollo 7, Skylabs 2-4,
and ASTP were built short of one fuel tank and one oxidizer tank.

OM

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"Explorer8939" wrote in message
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Why was the Service Module shortened for the movie? To fit on a
sound stage?

From http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicl...aroonedTop.htm...

"Also visible is the Service Module which was built "too short" in an
effort to save money. Plans would call for it to be shot only looking
back from the front or forward from the rear so the actual length
would not be visible. Unfortunately the filmmakers did include a side
view after all where the foreshortened mock-up is all too apparent.
It is possible that the mock-up was built to represent a short-range
version of the Apollo, since it was only going into Earth orbit not to
the Moon, however the filming miniature displays the standard Service
Module dimensions."

Brian

OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote in message . ..
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:40:30 -0400, "Scott Hedrick"
wrote:

Were this to be done in real life, the SM wouldn't be cut down. The SIM bay
would be loaded with stuff and retrieved on a spacewalk from the station. If
you wanted to lighten the load, you'd simply not fill the tanks.

...But then again, that's the way it was in reality. A Saturn 1B was
incapable of putting a CSM stack with the SM tanks full into even a
really LEO. As a result, IIRC, both the SMs for Apollo 7, Skylabs 2-4,
and ASTP were built short of one fuel tank and one oxidizer tank...

Actually, now that it's been mentioned, there _was_ a proposed CSM
variant as part of a space station plan which called for a "short"
service module. Iirc, this was strictly for crew ferrying, with no
other allowance for an experiments bay, etc. It was strictly a "get
'em up, get 'em down" LEO CSM variant. I don't have the sites open
right in front of me, so I can't say right offhand whether it was at
EA or at Marcus Lindroos' site that I saw the concept art of the
"stubby" CSMs docking at some ambitious concept for a space station.

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Actually, now that it's been mentioned, there _was_ a proposed CSM
variant as part of a space station plan which called for a "short"
service module. Iirc, this was strictly for crew ferrying, with no
other allowance for an experiments bay, etc. It was strictly a "get
'em up, get 'em down" LEO CSM variant.

Something like this wouldn't even need the SPS- enlarged RCS tanks would be
sufficient. You wouldn't even need fuel cells, just extra batteries.
Effectively, you've got a honking big Soyuz. The launcher would be
responsible for placing the craft in the right orbit with minimal
rendezvous.
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